Depression cause insomnia or insomnia cause depression??

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AngMichelle
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   Posted 2/9/2012 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
 I have so much trouble sleeping. Always have. When I don't sleep my depression sky rockets. My last admission to hospital was after not sleeping for 2 or 3 days.
 I have been on every med for my sleep. Ambien, Lunesta, Trazadone (up to 300mg), amitriptyline, sonata, vistaril,  valum, ativan, and others, even some stuff they give you before you go to the dentist. nothing seems to help. Maybe for a week or so and then nothing.
They say I just have to learn to relax, but usually when I can't sleep I am not up and just not sleepy. I am usually really tired, laying in bed crying just to go to sleep. I try CD's, reading, deep breathing, blahh blahh blahh, but I just don't sleep well.
What is going on? I just wonder also if this makes me more depressed, or vise-versa.
27 years old
Dx's: Depression/anxiety, Non-Epileptic Seizures, Migraines, repeat joint dislocations, suppressed immune system
14 Major surgeries
Meds: Cymbalta, Vyvanse, Valium, Trazadone, Ambien, Loratab

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   Posted 2/9/2012 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I think it can go both ways. Have you ever tried melatonin? It is over the counter. It is a hormone that we lose as we age. I use it off and on. I take ambien and xanax for sleep. But I could sleep all day long. I just don't get a restful sleep. Try the melatonin and see if it helps you. Also meditation works for me too.

I hope that you get some restful sleep.

Hugs, Karen
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Alaskah
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   Posted 2/9/2012 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree that it can go both ways. People with depression typically lack energy. And when we don't get sleep, we have even less energy to get by.

What is your diet like? Do you eat/drink things with caffeine in them? Caffeine can stay in the system for many hours after ingested, so if you drink soda (even for lunch) or ingest other caffeinated/sugary foods, your body may just be overly sensitive to them and keep you up.

Do you have a lot on your mind? Part of my problem is that I can't stop thinking long enough to fall asleep. Different thoughts speed through my mind. This is very difficult to turn off.

Did you take the sleeping aids on an empty stomach? If I have even a snack before bed I find my sleeping pills don't seem to "kick in" to make me sleepy.

Sorry for all the questions, but there can be a lot of different reasons for sleep troubles. Do you find it easier to take naps/sleep during the day? Do you feel tired at night but cannot fall asleep, or do you feel wide awake?

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   Posted 2/10/2012 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I have to take ambien on an empty stomach, so yes, having food in your stomach can make them stop working.

I hope you get some sleep.

Hugs, Karen

Alaskah, try to learn meditation, it takes all that off of your mind.

Hugs...
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JERICHOHOLIC
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   Posted 2/11/2012 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Sometimes insomnia leads to depression but sometimes depression causes insomnia. Sort of like what came first, the chicken or the egg.

Hope you are well :')

AngMichelle
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   Posted 2/13/2012 12:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the replies.
To answer some of the questions,
  melotonin= no help
  diet= very little caffiene. maybe one or two teas a week.
          Lots of water, i do like sugar, but not in much excess
          i eat a good mix of foods, nothing in particular
 
   Naps= I wish. I cannot sleep in the day either. BUT if I don't sleep at all during the night, like up more than 24hrs I may sleep like 7am-11am just b/c I'm exausted.
   I usually don't take meds on full stomach, but come to think of it, the trazadone makes me very hungry and I end up eating something, so I wonder if that effects the ambien...?
When I started the Ambien,trazodone, and valum together, I slept great for like 2 weeks, and then its like they just stopped working. i dunno. I just want a full nights sleep. I'm hoping to start back to school soon and I have to be able to sleep. going to doctor again on tuesday and see if we can up trazodone and try something else maybe.
 
thanks,
Ang
27 years old
Dx's: Depression/anxiety, Non-Epileptic Seizures, Migraines, repeat joint dislocations, suppressed immune system
14 Major surgeries
Meds: Cymbalta, Vyvanse, Valium, Trazadone, Ambien, Loratab

getting by
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   Posted 2/13/2012 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Ang,

My husband takes ambien cr. It helps him more than regular ambien.

You might want to give that a try.

Hugs, Karen
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