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AngMichelle
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   Posted 4/25/2012 10:20 PM (GMT -6)   
So not sleeping seems to be my biggest trigger for a major depressive episode. These last few days I have had very little sleep. My doctor put me on sonata today, and well i don't see it working yet, and I have been on EVERY sleep med there is. I'm reallly afraid that if this continues I'll end up back in the Psych hospital, and honestly, my depression and has been VERY minimal lately. I'm just afraid because of my history.
What do I do? I try to do all the things they tell you, I've taken the meds, not taken the meds, so for and so on, and I just can't sleep. My mind doesn't race, usually I'm exhausted and desperate to sleep, but I just can't fall asleep. It has nothing to do with mania or anything either.
I just don't get it.
Sometimes I wonder if the sleep meds actually keep me awake?
I just don't need to become anxious over this, as that will only make things worse. I'm doing so well and just afraid I'm going to spiral quickly if I don't get good rest.
Any idea's?
Thanks.
ang
27 years old
Dx's: Depression/anxiety, Non-Epileptic Seizures, Migraines, repeat joint dislocations, suppressed immune system
14 Major surgeries
Meds: Cymbalta, Vyvanse, Valium, Trazadone, Ambien, Loratab

ak angel
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   Posted 4/26/2012 1:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Ang, you probably have tried everything. I have trouble myself. I started working real hard trying to get into good sleep habits. I cut my caffeine off at a certain time, lay down a certain time and etc. it took many weeks to see results, but it's working. I do take remron at night. It's an antidepressent and helps those racing thoughts. I had to stop sleep aides. I hated the side effects to them. So now if I don't sleep well at night, I try to catch up in early AM.

getting by
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   Posted 4/26/2012 4:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I often do medtitation before going to sleep. It helps shut the mind down.

Hugs, Karen
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CassandraLee
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   Posted 4/26/2012 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi.  I know I need to follow my own advice, but how about exercising?  Could you take a nice long walk during the day or do some kind of workout at home?  I notice that on the occasional times I do this it makes a big difference.
 
.....I do hope something works soon.  Lack of sleep is also a powerful trigger for my own depression.
 
Cass

It's Genetic
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   Posted 4/26/2012 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
The most effective thing I've ever tried was to see a lung specialist who had me put through a sleep apnea test. It was effective in identifying a loss of REM sleep during the various sleep cycles at night.

I am now taking CPAP (continuous positive air pressure), wearing a mask at bedtime; I sleep wonderfully and wake up refreshed, getting 8 hours of sleep every night regardless of what's going on around me.

To boost the startup up, I drink a glass of water, then put a few grains of unrefined Himalayan salt on my tongue and let that dissolve. That puts you to sleep on its own practically.

Some people are born with low ability to sustain REM (or rapid eye movement) sleep. Even very young people suffer with the disorder. Testing is the only way to identify it.

Rem sleep is that form of rest that recharges one's "battery" and gives energy for activity during the day. The body can store it, and usually sleep disorders may be that one doesn't have enough stored rem sleep to keep the energy level of the body fit for activity. It makes a HUGE difference in how one feels.

Barring that, I would suggest that you remove coffee, tea, and chocolate from your diet for several weeks and see how that works. Also try cutting off TV and your computer at least two hours before bedtime to give your body time to start producing melatonin to aid with sleep production. Light from the TV or computer can slow down the time melatonin begins to be released.
 
Some sleep problems are probably related to the acid residue of prescribed medications.  There's very little that can be done about that except to use unrefined salt and drink plenty of water in an effort to help reduce acidity, or  you can change the diet to a more alkaline state by watching types of food eaten.  Lemon water is
especially good at relaxing the body and removing acidity; even though it tastes very bitter, the lemon is actually strongly alkaline.

Take care and get some good rest.

It's Genetic

Post Edited (It's Genetic) : 4/26/2012 6:14:00 AM (GMT-6)


Constantlyreading
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   Posted 4/29/2012 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
AngMichelle,

I'm a veteran of the struggle to get restful sleep, also.

I found that when I get tired or anxious, it was my worrying about whether I'd be able to sleep that interfered with my ability to get it. Normally, 10mg of Ambien works great, unless I'm worked up and worrying -- then, even two Ambien won't work. Adrenaline is far more powerful than any sleep med.

I suggest you focus on relaxing your mind, so that your body will follow. Do some soul-searching and try to deal with anything that may be worrying you at night during the waking hours. Subliminal relaxation tapes have been a MAJOR help to me, also ocean waves and other sounds from nature. If you're a believer, pray for wellness in your life and those of the people you love.

When I'm anxious, I've also found that I may need to change what I'm allowing into my subconscious mind for a while. Stop watching the news, depressing documentaries, don't listen to negativism from others, etc. In a couple of weeks you may notice a difference in your outlook, as I did.

Wishing you the best,

Constantlyreading

ExProud
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   Posted 4/29/2012 8:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been a terrible sleeper for most of my life and I am in a very rough patch now, but the blessing I've had this time around is that I have discovered something that at least takes care of the sleep problem for me - 50 MG of Seroquel about an hour before I want to sleep soundly. Initially tried 100 MG but that left me groggy the next day. I've used Ambien before and that worked for me OK, but not as good as this.
 
Best of luck to you!
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