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Chartreux
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Posted 11/14/2016 8:27 PM (GMT -8)
Had to get a lower back mri, never figured I'd have to go all the way in that darned mri machine! , but she said yeah, got the ear plugs in and the noise from this mri startled me bad, this was the loudest one I've ever had done. Then I moved and it was hurting me. She said she had to put my legs up, but when they do that it increases my pain by 50%... So I was crying , hurting and so very dizzy when I got done I think I scared them...usually I get Valium but I had no driver to take me there and back and I was crying in the car driving home and it was the longest 5 minute trip home and I literally went to bed after grabbing the kleenex tissue box and just stared into space until I finally fell asleep...I'm still so startled and headachey now.
When husband got home from work I told him never again and he knows I mean it and all...told him I'd rather die than get another mri...he knows I mean that too...in so much pain...mad at my world today, and very sad... cry
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Sometimes i am me (HT)...
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Posted 11/15/2016 12:37 AM (GMT -8)
sending many healing thoughts to you. it is done, and hoping the results go your way. keep strong.
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MyselfRedux
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Posted 11/15/2016 6:42 AM (GMT -8)
*hugs* Deep breath, followed by another. I hate those 'starts'. I can ache for days afterwards.
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BnotAfraid
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Posted 11/15/2016 1:24 PM (GMT -8)
So sorry.

But it is over now.

Think how courageous you were going on your own and making it!
Sure there was pain and you cried. Hell, they are coping skills!

You never know how strong you are, until you need to be. Then it becomes a revelation. Try writing about the experience, you may find your bravery that way.

I empathize with your pain, chronic daily pain is an emotional blood sucker. rest and do what you can til the docs can ease it.

My neuro has lowered my chronic head pain down to a 4-5 daily. Much better then 8-10 I was dealing with.

I wish you peace and strength
Trina
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Chartreux
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Posted 11/15/2016 1:43 PM (GMT -8)
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Still shaken up today but will try to visualize how much better tomorrow will be...sitting with my little cat Tristin helps, so I will go back and sit with him some more...Tristin's nicknames are twister and braveheart...
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Posted 11/15/2016 1:52 PM (GMT -8)
For some reason, I give my pets nick names too. I have Jasmine, but she is called Jazzy, Jammy and Jazmo t brown. Ha!!!

Chartreux, I am glad you are feeling better. I have only had one MRI and I didn't like it. They left a metal clip in my shoulder when I had surgery, so I don't know if I can have anymore. Metal you know...

Take care and have a good night my friend.

Hugs, Karen...
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Posted 11/16/2016 7:08 AM (GMT -8)
Glad you are feeling a might better.

We always give our dogs special names.

Alley = moo cow; for the moo cow eyes she give John

Maverick = bear; for the black coat and solidness, reminds you of a bear cub

Goose = is Gooser, Gooseman or secret ninja. SN is for sneaking in acorns and hiding them under his bed!

They all answer to whatever we call! Amazing.

Peace and strength
Trina
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Tim Tam
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Posted 11/17/2016 11:17 AM (GMT -8)
I went through this below data years ago for a site that included people who had sensitive ears to noise.

I'm sorry that you're going through this, and I know what you're going through. People who don't have that problem, don't really understand, but it wipes you out. And it can last for days, for week, and longer.

It is devastating. Let's see where you are in this thing.

On your first post, 11-14,

"Had to get a lower back mri, never figured I'd have to go all the way in that darned mri machine! , but she said yeah, got the ear plugs in and the noise from this mri startled me bad, this was the loudest one I've ever had done. Then I moved and it was hurting me. She said she had to put my legs up, but when they do that it increases my pain by 50%... So I was crying , hurting and so very dizzy when I got done I think I scared them...usually I get Valium but I had no driver to take me there and back and I was crying in the car driving home and it was the longest 5 minute trip home and I literally went to bed after grabbing the kleenex tissue box and just stared into space until I finally fell asleep...I'm still so startled and headachey now.
When husband got home from work I told him never again and he knows I mean it and all...told him I'd rather die than get another mri...he knows I mean that too...in so much pain...mad at my world today, and very sad... cry"

Looking up the decibels for these MRI machines, which is hard to find for they don't want to publicize it, the average MRI is about 115 decibels.

The next question is, how sensitive are your ears? We can take a quiet sound test by just reading the levels of different sounds. It says:

• Normal conversation - 60 dB
• Dishwasher - 75 dB
• Heavy city traffic or school cafeteria 85 dB
• A lawnmower - 90 dB

What is your sound tolerance level, based on the above?

If you can stand a dishwasher (75 bB), but not heavy city traffic (85 dB), then your sound tolerance level is 75 dB. If its one notch up, then your tolerance level if 85 dB.

Let's say your sound tolerance level is 85. The average MRI is 115. You're 30 dB away from being able to tolerate the MRI.

Decibels go up in multiples, not strictly by numbers. So if you can tolerate 85, then 95 dB would be way out of reach for you, not just 10 points more than you can tolerate.

But you weren't in 95 DB, you weren't in 105, you were in 115 dB.

Now you did have ear plugs. Mine protect 22 dB. Ket's say even number, yours protect 20. Twenty from 115 equals 95 decibles.

But you only tolerate 85. And the difference between 85 and 95 dB is substantial. That's where you pain is coming in.

I can even go to an ear doctor, and tell them I have sensitive ears to noise, and they can very well prescribe an MRI. Do they ask what my sound tolerance level is? No. Do they tell me how loud the MRI is? No.

And I've just told them, I have sensitive ears to noise. Oh, wow.

So it is very frustrating when the doctors themselves are contributing to this.

As for any treatment, I put a moist (wet the insert that comes with the pad, or just get a small kitchen towel or handcloth) heating pad on my ears.

I put the pad on the pillow, put my right ear on that, wrap the 22-inch long pad around the back or top of my head, and put the 2nd half of the pad on my top or left ear.

I cut the pad on "high," maybe put part of a phone book on my top hear, have a clock where I can see it, even if I lay there for 5 or 10 minutes, it helps. I try for 15, maybe go to sleep and it ends up being an hour or more.

What I think it does is, it expands the blood vessels, which puts more nutrients and oxygen into the injured area, just as a heating pad helps a sore back or leg. The moist heating pad helps me molre than a dry one.

I also use ice on my ears. I have a gel pack in the freezer, sold at drug stores, probably. Standing, I put the frozen gel pack on one ear for about a minute, with a towel keeping the cold off of my hand. Then the other ear.

What it does is, cold reduces the inflammation of a bad back, so why not an ear that's irratated? It seems to help, and it's quicker than 30 minutes with a heating pad. I use the heating pad when I lad down to go to sleep. I'm laying down anyway, and it even helps me sleep, cause I don't have to get up as much when I put the pad on my ears.

Warm water. I put some very warm water from the tap in a cup. I drink the water, which expands the blood vessels to my ears. I do that 3 or 4 times, and I can tell it helps.

On 11-15, the next day from your first post, you said, "Still shaken up today but will try to visualize how much better tomorrow will be."

So, I know, these things don't always just disappear real quickly.
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Posted 11/17/2016 5:20 PM (GMT -8)
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Sorry for your experience
Did you get results?
All my best
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Chartreux
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Posted 11/18/2016 10:46 AM (GMT -8)
Ear, left one still hurts and I will call my primary doctor and see if I can get seen.
Tim Tam I do think this was on the higher dB side for an mri...
Usually I can tolerate lawn mowers, so 90 dB's...
Saw my counselor yesterday, but woke up crying and shaking last night.
Results will go over on Next Tuesday,...
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BnotAfraid
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Posted 11/21/2016 9:52 AM (GMT -8)
Hang in there Char! Healing thoughts.

Peace and strength
Trina
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Chartreux
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Posted 11/21/2016 1:18 PM (GMT -8)
Doing a whole lot better with a prescribed ear drop...I see the PM Doctor about the results tomorrow, but it might not be good as I did move in the mri machine...
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Chartreux
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Posted 11/23/2016 1:26 PM (GMT -8)
Well, I have a disc bulge at L4 and at L5/S1, but not bad enough for surgery yet, so injections which I can handle will get scheduled soon...Hopefully in December...I did tell this doctor that I would never go to this mri place again and I told him twice! I think he got the clue(hint)...so, yeah on that...I think he could tell I was not my usual calm self, I was dis- connected. (sorry, not sure for the phrasing)...
Feeling better overall today though, getting back slowly...
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Sometimes i am me (HT)...
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Posted 11/24/2016 12:27 AM (GMT -8)
keep strong char, got 2 disc bulges.......drive me up the wall at times, so i hear ya. sending healing thoughts.
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Chartreux
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Posted 11/26/2016 10:40 PM (GMT -8)
My mind s trying to play total memory recall tonight and I'm trying not to let it win.
Now, I don't know why but I have total memory recall of tragic events that happen to me...not sure why I got this specific talent, but I wish I could learn to replay good events in my mind more clearly than the ba ones...going to keep focused. I have a bracelet making class, where I will make a wonderful beaded bracelet on Saturday 3rd of December...Every once in awhile I can make a lovely jewelry piece, for hobbies, but my main hobby is still cross stitching...
Thanks for letting me vent, I needed it tonight...just a litte sad....
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Sometimes i am me (HT)...
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Posted 11/26/2016 11:12 PM (GMT -8)
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getting by
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Posted 11/27/2016 2:53 AM (GMT -8)
enjoy your jewelry class. I use to make jewelry too. It was tedious at times but the finished product was awesome.

Hang in there Chartreux.

hugs. Karen...
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Posted 11/27/2016 10:36 AM (GMT -8)
Char:

After a loud sound event, as a person with sensitive ears to noise, my mind goes dark also, as I see the world and people differently.

And I want to turn it off, also. I also like to play "good event" memories, and try to think that way.

I don't think you have sensitive ears to noise, although the MRI didn't help anything, but I'm telling you things that help my ears, in hopes they might help yours.

Warm things, like a heating pad, expand the blood vessels, including those to the ear, which bring more oxygen and nutrients to the injured area, like thee ears.

So, I've noticed when I eat warm grits (cereal like oatmeal or cream of wheat) for breakfast, or warm soup for lunch, it helps my ears, also.

Between meals, I've recently been drinking warm water out of the tap, and it has a beneficial affect. Also, a warm bath can help.

When I do these things, more pleasant memories come to my mind.

You might want to try some things like this.

Also, you said, "I did tell this doctor that I would never go to this mri place again and I told him twice! I think he got the clue(hint)...so, yeah on that...I think he could tell I was not my usual calm self, I was dis- connected."

It was through a sound event which greatly affected my ears, that I basically changed my entire personality from a passive (yeah, I'll go near whatever sound situation you tell me to) to (you take one step closer and....)

I'd never been good at protecting myself, but with my new attitude I was really just protecting my ears (as if they were a child I was protecting) and the rest of my "self" just got thrown in as an after thought.

So your attitude towards the doctor reminds me of that.
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