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Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/23/2017 12:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been a complete loner and recluse in my mothers house for about 1.5 years and I'm desperate to talk to somebody, anybody at all, that has horrible social problems but who can't stand the effect of it causing complete solitude and being totally alone. I live in West Virginia (which is a pretty depressed place if you're looking at statistics) but I haven't had the will to go out and instigate meeting someone. So... I am turning to this site to see if anyone is looking for communication with someone. I am not even sure if this is the place to do what I am doing Right now. If it isn't, please let me know where to go. I'm a 29 year old male with experience in working at hotels and call centers. I haven't worked, however, in 3 years. I am wanting to get back out and live the world, because I have many financial goals id like to meet. Again, if this is the wrong place for this, please let me know where on this site to go, or where would be a good place other than HealingWell. My diagnoses is depression, severe social disability, and sleeplessness. Thanks to all who read this post.

Tim Tam
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   Posted 5/23/2017 1:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know where those sites are either, and I never want to figure it out for I'm concerned that I'd meet someone who might not be good for me.

So I wouldn't tell you how to get to one of those sites if I knew.

But I do think it's good that you reached out on the web for help. Sites such as these allow people to get help without having to leave their homes.

You say, "I'm desperate to talk to somebody, anybody at all, that has horrible social problems but who can't stand the effect of it causing complete solitude and being totally alone"

As a bipolar who is taking Lithium for the bipolar, and Mirtazapine for the depression, I have had horrendous social situations, also. So I know of which you speak.

Have you been diagnosed with anything?

(Oh, I now re-read where you say, "My diagnoses is depression, severe social disability, and sleeplessness.")

For sleep, I take Melatonin supplement from the health food store or the net. I take 1 mg. at bedtime. I also take the above meds, so if I was taking no meds, 1 mg. of Melatonin would not be enough to put me to sleep.

They sell it in 3mg. and 5 mg. sizes, so 3 or 4 mg. of that must be OK. You'll have to decide. You can look it up on the net.

A heating pad also helps me sleep, like a child sleeping with a teddy bear, the warmth. I put it on my chest, and the heat expands the blood vessels around the heart, which makes the blood flow easier, and makes the heart have to work less.

So it has two benefits. Any port in a storm.

You can look up depression on the net.

Have you seen a psychiatrist? If nothing else, just get a second opinion on what's going on with you. You don't have to take home any scripts, if you don't want to, your choice. Plus, you'll have a doctor if you need one.

Oh, I was depressed years ago, bad depressed, didn't do anything about it, and it got worse, and I had a nervous breakdown. I just say that because you don't want to keep ignoring stuff.

Since you say you are depressed, I would definitely see a psychiatrist.

Also, I had a bad attitude. I was negative, cause I learned that growing up, and I adopted that without thinking. So I had it in my psychic and didn't realize it. I was my worse enemy.

Are you generally positive?

Something that helped me get out was doing the equivalent of volunteer work, like at a hospital, senior citizens home or walking dogs at a dog pound. Job opportunities can result from some of those.

Plus, it gets you out of the house, around people, and gives you a chance to help, which is therapeutic, for you and the dog, or the person.

If you can you reverse your psychic energy from worrying about yourself to worrying about somebody else having problems, it can do wonders.

Why do you think I'm on this site? I'm worrying about somebody else, you, in this case. If I wasn't worried about you, I'd be worrying about my own problems. Free therapy. For me.

I now say to myself, instead of just sitting there in a sea of issues,

"One problem at a time, and be positive about that problem."

getting by
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   Posted 5/23/2017 1:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there and welcome to the forum. I have made a couple of friends here and there on the forum. Ones I correspond with through email and such. There is also a chat room if you want quicker responses.

We are all pretty much suffering with depression so many of us can sympathize with you.

I hope you feel better soon...
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Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/23/2017 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Tim Tam, wow, thank you for your response. I like the idea of a heating pad to help with sleep. I feel like I can disclose more to you about my meds and therapy history. I currently am taking Ambien (I should discontinue it soon, so much negative stuff about it everywhere.) and I am also taking Wellbutrin. The Wellbutrin made me feel like jogging and working out, so I started doing so but even that grew old and my depression overpowered all the exercise. As for the ambien, my mom tells me that two of her friends now take it, and that they're not enjoyable to be around anymore. She says they're annoying and that everyone knows it's the ambien. I am worried ambien is causing me to behave in ways that are off that I am not aware. That's scary. But it really provides that blissful world of sleep, even BEFORE you fall asleep. I mean, I take it at 9:00, and by 9:30 suddenly everything in my life is okay and there are no problems and I'm laughing and playing video games. This probably isn't a good thing. I don't want to become dependent or addicted. But it's nice knowing i always have something to guarantee to knock me out when I have to sleep. The Wellbutrin is basically a crazy happy pill AND stimulant. It really provides a hell of a jolt, ESPECIALLY with coffee. I had to reduce my intake by HALF because of how stimulating it was. It actually caused quite a bit of confusion and would even sometimes override the ambien. I am
Not currently seeing a psychiatrist, but rather a nurse practitioner who is prescribing this stuff. He's very helpful and basically agreed to both my personal suggestions of what meds I need. I am pretty sure, however, that I am going to come off the Wellbutrin and go on something maybe a little more in line with what you take. I don't like the stimulant effect that the Wellbutrin gives. I am almost 30 and am ready to chill out my life. My early and mid twenties were way too hectic and I was in a lot of trouble. I'm
Looking forward to relaxing in the years to come. The past year and a half has been awful. My girlfriend left me because I couldn't leave the house. My mom has to take care of me basically, financially and drive me places. It's a sad world for me. I am really happy to have received such a fast response. Thank you for making my evening

Tim Tam
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   Posted 5/23/2017 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I enjoyed responding to your post.

about the Ambien. There is a world of information in your post about that, and I looked it up on the net.

You said, "I am worried ambien is causing me to behave in ways that are off that I am not aware. That's scary. But it really provides that blissful world of sleep, even BEFORE you fall asleep. I mean, I take it at 9:00, and by 9:30 suddenly everything in my life is okay and there are no problems and I'm laughing and playing video games. This probably isn't a good thing. I don't want to become dependent or addicted. But it's nice knowing i always have something to guarantee to knock me out when I have to sleep."

Sounds like pretty powerful stuff. The net said,

"Ambien (zolpidem) is a sedative, also called a hypnotic. Zolpidem affects chemicals in the brain that may be unbalanced in people with sleep problems (insomnia).

"Ambien is used to treat insomnia. The immediate-release tablet is used to help you fall asleep when you first go to bed. The extended-release form, Ambien CR, which has a first layer that dissolves quickly to help you fall asleep, and a second layer that dissolves slowly to help you stay asleep.

"Ambien may impair your thinking or reactions. You may still feel sleepy the morning after taking this medicine, especially if you take the extended-release tablet, or if you are a woman."

"Zolpidem cause a severe allergic reaction. Stop taking this medicine and get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat."

about the swelling, my now deceased wife took some psych med and it made her tongue swell. Uh, oh. As in, if it keeps swelling, how are you going to breath? So that swelling and medicine can be scary. I would be alert to any swelling, and what might be causing it: your medicine, and to quit taking it if that happens.

Ambien sounds like a horse. Right from the start it said, "Ambien (zolpidem) is a sedative, also called a hypnotic"

Hypnotic? Whoa. In your description of it, you said,

"I am worried ambien is causing me to behave in ways that are off that I am not aware. That's scary. But it really provides that blissful world of sleep, even BEFORE you fall asleep. I mean, I take it at 9:00, and by 9:30 suddenly everything in my life is okay and there are no problems and I'm laughing and playing video games. This probably isn't a good thing. I don't want to become dependent or addicted. But it's nice knowing i always have something to guarantee to knock me out when I have to sleep."

It sounds like it puts you to sleep, but it sounds like a powerhouse.

I'm wondering if you might should be going to a psychiatrist instead of the nurse you mentioned. A psychiatrist might be more finely tuned to get you something that might help with sleep, but can also be an anti-depressant.

Or an anti-depressant and a calmer sleep pill. Again, I take Melatonin from the health food store which helps me sleep.

about the Wellbutrin (anit-depressant?), you said, "The Wellbutrin made me feel like jogging and working out, so I started doing so but even that grew old and my depression overpowered all the exercise"

And, " I am pretty sure, however, that I am going to come off the Wellbutrin and go on something maybe a little more in line with what you take" (What I take for bipolar is Mirtazapine, anti-depressant, and Lithium, a mood stabilizer which calms down my mania, or rather prevents it.)

So, it sounds like the Wellbutrin did not help very much on the depression. If you have a psychiatrist, I think they can do a better job than that nurse. We need to get you moving.

We need to get you out of the house, walking that dog, or volunteering somewhere. What got you stuck in the house? Do you have any program for getting out?

Living in your mother's house for 1.5 years might be a world's record, except for my 6 years in my house because of health problems. So I know stagnant.

Can you delve into what got you into this world-wind that landed you in your mother's house for 1 1/2 years?

You say, "I'm desperate to talk to somebody, anybody at all, that has horrible social problems but who can't stand the effect of it causing complete solitude and being totally alone. I haven't had the will to go out and instigate meeting someone. So... I am turning to this site to see if anyone is looking for communication with someone."

Karen mentioned having made some friends on this forum who she now corresponds with by e-mail. Maybe someone knows something about this social sites where perhaps people list their interests and want to correspond with someone with similar interest.

So, if that's what you want, I'm sure there are people out there who have similar interest. I myself would be leary of that because I'd be concerned about con artists. But, you, right, you might fit right in.

The negative thing. Where do you fit into that? I use to be very negative, and it was really getting me. But you, you're a problem-solving whiz, right?

It you're negative, being positive, just for five minutes to solve a problem, could be a big help for you. It was for me.

Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/24/2017 5:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I have lived off and on in my
Mothers house for years, but I have been bound to her house the last 1.5 years due to my problems. I just don't leave the
House. I can't communicate or engage with anyone. It's terrible. Something seems to have happened that caused some
Kind of disconnect or something to just not work. I have to get it figured out. I've even considered going to the hospital but I am worried of things like involuntary admissions to psych wards and stuff. I don't think I qualify for even something like a 3 day psych evaluation, nor does my mom, but I am afraid whoever is in charge there will make that decision, thus affecting my record. I don't want something like that on my record at the age of 29. Too much opportunity ahead of me to have something like that prevent it.
I don't really know what's landed me in moms
House for years but we are definitely trying to figure it out with therapists and Medication. I'm also doing things like coming on to this site in search of others who can communicate with me and
Maybe help not only me but them too. I need to get out and get well. I need to work like I used to.

Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/24/2017 5:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I am negative because I see how bleak it's been for me for years and nothing changed. I need to see some
Sort of change to get out of this negativity. To give me
Hope there's a chance I can function again. I don't want to exhaust my mom, and then end up on disability, living in a low income place for people like that where crime will probably be rampant. These are all fears that are very real that only worsen everything about my psych.

Tim Tam
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   Posted 5/24/2017 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for the update.

Any chance you could get a psychiatrist, since I think that seems it would be better than a nurse?

You get nervous thinking about leaving the house?

Can I ask, what situation got you into that?

You are engaging through the written word here, but you cannot do that in a conversation?

Seems every time you see a solution, you see a reason why not. I've done that. Positive thinking has helped a lot. I'm not positive about everything. I just try to be positive about the next problem.

I think your first step could be a psychiatrist, who could perhaps have more suggestions than a nurse.

You say, "I am negative because I see how bleak it's been for me for years and nothing changed. I need to see some
Sort of change to get out of this negativity. To give me
Hope there's a chance I can function again."

Again, you say, "I need to see some
Sort of change to get out of this negativity."

Do you think a change of attitude should come first, or are you waiting for the world to change, and then you'll agree to follow along?

Was there mental illness in your family? Are you diagnosed as depressed? Is there another element to it, since you have the house situation?

I don't know if a nurse can diagnose you. What are the chances of you getting a psychiatrist? I think you're going to have to take some first steps here.

I was wondering that too. What if your mother died, and here come the people who are going to take care of you, and tell you where you're going to live, and with who.

Whew! Yeah, that would worry me. So, if you can get started on this before some change occurs, you could better use this time. Right now, you have some time on your side. If you use it all up, and then something happens, it could be rough.

Why don't you see how far you can get before some change occurs?

What are you doing to get out?

BnotAfraid
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   Posted 5/25/2017 6:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to the forum.

Perhaps you could apply for aid and find a therapist and/or physchiatrist. This sounds like a plan that is need, but I only can go from want you post.

Things do not change on their own. You have to change your actions to get different results.

Peace and strength
Trina
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Billy Collins from the poem. HIGH

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Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/25/2017 6:49 AM (GMT -7)   
BNotafraid, what aid do you think I should look into? I don't know anything about aid other than I guess disability

Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/28/2017 11:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Tim tam, yes we are moving up to a psychiatrist who's in our behavioral health building. We are doing everything we can to get him as my official psychiatrist as soon as possible,
But apparently at this particular place, you have to work your way up to the psychiatrist by first seeing a therapist, then a nurse practitioner, then a psychologist, THEN the psychiatrist. Not sure if that's how it is other
Places, but it is here. I am not
Doing any better since my first post so I am pretty upset and discouraged.

getting by
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   Posted 5/28/2017 12:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Don't get discouraged as it just takes time. I have seen all of the above. I see a psychologist now, though I often call her my therapist. I also see a psychiatrist but haven't needed to though he writes my scripts. Him and the psychologist work together.

You will work your way up and I am sure if badly needed you will go straight to the psychiatrist. Keep hanging in there. We all can understand how you are feeling. Things will get better.

Take care...

Hugs, Karen...
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Cognitivism
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   Posted 5/28/2017 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   
There was a Karen who was a forum moderator who replied to one of my posts in 2011! Are you the same Karen? Wow. Good to see someone so committed to this site. I love this site

getting by
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   Posted 5/28/2017 3:25 PM (GMT -7)   
That would of been me. I been here since 2007 I think... It gives me something to do and I feel good if I can help others.

I really hope you get to feeling better. Have you ever practiced mindfulness? mindful.org is a good site to get started on it. It really helps with thinking. I think too much and it helps me there.

Take care Cognitivism...

Hugs, Karen...
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BnotAfraid
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   Posted 5/30/2017 8:01 AM (GMT -7)   
C,

Hope you enjoyed the weekend.

Well since you worked, SSD is a poosibility. But it won't be much. I worked in Hospitality for 13 yrs before completing college math to take me into 401k administration. I am now on SSD for life, recvd at age 50.
NeuroligI called damage, complex PTSD, OTHER dxs.

You have to have GP and Psychiatrist agree to your disability diagnosis before applying.

I am not sure what is need for medicaid. Both can be applied for online. So if you seach by state and county you will most like find guide lines for Medicaid.

The progression of clinicians you see are in line with applications for disability/medicaid.

Sometimes, a therapist is the turning point for a person, or that and medicaton from the NP.

Try to be patient and take the most out of each person

Peace and strength
Trina
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"...when the gift of sight is cause enough for jubilation."
Billy Collins from the poem. HIGH

DX: reverse Trigeminal Neuralgia;Cluster headaches; Atypical face pain;Hemicrania Continua; raynauds;complex PTSD; recurring MDD,disassociative disorder;

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   Posted 6/1/2017 3:03 AM (GMT -7)   
hi, alike karen, i have been around, with a few name changes!! got some cool mates on hw. just wanted to say g'day and hope ya keep strong.
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