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SuperMarioGamer
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   Posted 8/13/2017 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I have written an entire essay that explains my whole philosophy for others to gain insight to such as therapists and mental health professionals as well as philosophers. Would you like to read it? It is very long and I will give you and others all the time in the world to fully read it and to give a full response to it.

kellyinCali
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   Posted 8/13/2017 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
SMG:

I have read your brief "Hypothesis/Philosophy." I do not wish to read the long version at this time.

May I ask, "What is your objective?" This always escapes me as I read the theory you posit repeatedly.

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   Posted 8/14/2017 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
kellyinCali said...
SMG:

I have read your brief "Hypothesis/Philosophy." I do not wish to read the long version at this time.

May I ask, "What is your objective?" This always escapes me as I read the theory you posit repeatedly.


It's a theory that could change the world. That is the reason why it is vital that I go in great length to fully discuss it. We currently rely on our value judgments to give value to our lives and I have every reason to think this is the wrong method. It is a theory that would help encourage others to find cures for depression and other illnesses that would take away our positive emotions. I think a book needs to be published on this very subject that I have learned from my own struggles with depression and misery in my life.

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kellyinCali
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   Posted 8/14/2017 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I understand. I think that is why Science continues to research "medicine" to change the brain. Personally, I subscribe to our "mind" (soul) can change our "brain" as well.

BnotAfraid
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   Posted 8/15/2017 5:30 AM (GMT -7)   
No thank on the offer of the book, though kind as it is.

Confused as I continue to be on your theory. It seems that it loops around and become a circle.

For me, I will continue to look on life as a gift and adventure. Finding, beauty, love, happiness and joy in the small things of life and inside of myself.

As the wonder of loving myself grows stronger.

Peace
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SuperMarioGamer
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   Posted 8/15/2017 11:14 PM (GMT -7)   
BnotAfraid said...
No thank on the offer of the book, though kind as it is.

Confused as I continue to be on your theory. It seems that it loops around and become a circle.

For me, I will continue to look on life as a gift and adventure. Finding, beauty, love, happiness and joy in the small things of life and inside of myself.

As the wonder of loving myself grows stronger.

Peace
Trina


Alright, so let me just say that qualities such as good value, bad value, suffering, joy, love, beauty, hate, etc. are the higher qualities. In order to perceive these qualities, then that requires a higher (transcended) form of awareness. That awareness would be our emotions. It is only the positive emotions that allow us to perceive the positive qualities while it is only our negative emotions that allow us to perceive the negative qualities. Having neither positive nor negative emotions can only allow us to perceive basic qualities such as knowing that your microwave is running, seeing the trees outside, knowing certain concepts, ideas, and subjects, etc. It doesn't matter what mindset, value judgments, thoughts, and beliefs you have of your life possessing these perceived higher qualities in the absence of your emotions; you still cannot perceive them without your emotions.

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   Posted 8/16/2017 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
This is just your perception. Whether or not we agree to this is all up to the individual. I think all people are different. We could very well perceive things differently than you.

Some people can't notice the beauty of things because their minds are somewhere else at the time. They are not mindful. But that doesn't mean they are not emotional.

Please do not post your essay. It would be too long and would get deleted.
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SuperMarioGamer
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   Posted 8/16/2017 1:34 PM (GMT -7)   
getting by said...
This is just your perception. Whether or not we agree to this is all up to the individual. I think all people are different. We could very well perceive things differently than you.

Some people can't notice the beauty of things because their minds are somewhere else at the time. They are not mindful. But that doesn't mean they are not emotional.

Please do not post your essay. It would be too long and would get deleted.


Understood. I won't post that long essay here. Therefore, my only goal here is to summarize my worldview in such a way that people get the right interpretation of it. I have attempted many summaries in the past. However, many people did not get the right interpretation. Therefore, I will try one last time:

Summary of My Philosophy (Spiritual Universe): I do not believe in god, the afterlife, and the paranormal. I am undecided and keep an open mind. But I am going to use a spiritual metaphor/analogy anyway to get my point across. This analogy can also apply to a purely naturalistic universe where there is no god, afterlife, or paranormal. You would just have to change the analogy up a bit in your mind so that it suits a purely naturalistic universe. So, here is the analogy. The divine light energy of god is sheer intrinsic goodness, joy, love, happiness, and beauty.

This is not a value judgment. This is what the light energy of god truly is. God wanted us as his human creations to have this divine light in our lives as some form of conscious awareness. That awareness would be our positive emotions. It is only through having our positive emotions that we can perceive goodness, joy, love, happiness, and beauty in our lives. If this divine light gets taken away such as due to depression, emotional trauma, or any other factor, then we lose the light in our lives and we can no longer see anything good or beautiful anymore. We would either be perceiving nothing but darkness (the bad qualities of life) or perceiving nothing good or bad at all. No value judgment, mindset, way of thinking, or attitude alone can give our lives any real perceived good value in the absence of the divine light.

Summary of My Philosophy (Naturalistic Universe): Qualities such as good value, bad value, suffering, joy, love, beauty, hate, etc. are the higher qualities. In order to perceive these qualities, then that requires a higher (transcended) form of awareness. That awareness would be our emotions. It is only the positive emotions that allow us to perceive the positive qualities while it is only our negative emotions that allow us to perceive the negative qualities. Having neither positive nor negative emotions can only allow us to perceive basic qualities such as knowing that your microwave is running, seeing the trees outside, knowing certain concepts, ideas, and subjects, etc. It doesn't matter what mindset, value judgments, thoughts, and beliefs you have of your life possessing these perceived qualities in the absence of your emotions; you still cannot perceive them without your emotions.

Our consciousness possesses intrinsic qualities that give our lives the perception of good value, bad value, joy, beauty, suffering, happiness, and misery. These intrinsic qualities would be our positive and negative emotions. If I have chosen to get something done in my life without my positive emotions and I thought that it was something good and worthwhile to me, then that good value and worth would be completely bland and stale. Therefore, it wouldn't be any real good value and worth perceived in my life. As you can see here, there is a big difference between what we think as opposed to what something is actually like for us. If you thought that you were having the most joyful time of your life when, in reality, the intrinsic quality of this was bland and stale for you, then you wouldn't be having any real joy in your life.

getting by
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   Posted 8/17/2017 1:42 AM (GMT -7)   
You are repeating yourself. Thread is going to be locked, it is going nowhere....

Thanks in advance for understanding...
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