Okay guys, upon reading your posts, I see your points. I guess what I really meant to say was, I encountered MANY people in life who were either, lazy, in some pain, but more or less just had really low self esteem, didn't believe in themselves, couldn't rise up to either intellectual/physical/school related/work related/bill related pressures, so they opted out for saying they had things wrong with them, as an excuse for their inability to perform in life.
True depression can seriously hinder you and your abilities, but there are also many phonies out there who are just ashamed of their inability to do things, so they blame it on something else, and that's just really annoying.
I agree with you guys, and didn't mean to categorize ALL of you under the same boat, just under MY experience with people with depression, many of them have just bene phony.
You are also right when it comes to, your depression has a huge role how you see the world around you.
I did suffer from depression/anxiety and asthma, but I bounce back and forth. I realize when I'm depressed what it is, and I usually try my b est to get active, drink coffee, take certain meds, just basically speed myself up, so that I avoid the sad, down, slow part of the depression, and how it affects my mood.
Depression/Anxiety/Neurology is a very tricky, complicated thing, and I am in no shape, way or form, qualified to make such bold statements and pass them off as fact, but I guess we're allowed to state how we feel on these boards.
I just think though that our understanding and treatment of these things is very new still, and many of the therapies just don't cut it.
I was watching the movie "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" yesterday with Jack Nicholson, and if you guys haven't seen it, it's about his character who is deemed "Crazy" and put in a nuthouse, with other people who are crazy. He's actually normal, but a bit of a bad boy, many of the other inmates however are "Crazy", to a degree, because you can actually SEE their impairment.
There's a point to this! lol.
When I saw this movie for the first time, several years ago when I was depressed, and I guess younger/had less imput, I thought the hospital staff/Nurse Ratchet ( who were pretty much extremely authoritative/evil and in the end gave Nicholson's character a lobotomy for being violent), I thought they were criminal and I thhought these institutions and treatments were very wrong and horrible.
Now I saw things from a different perspective. THe staff and Nurse Ratchett, may come across as mean, but that's only as a direct result from the actions of the members of the hospital. They were never mean just for the hell of it, and if they were it was to a small degree that all of us, as humans, have the potential to be.
I saw the crazy people for what they were, actually had problems, (sorry to use the word crazy here, I just really am typing fast and want to get my point across.).
In the past I thought, YAY for the mentally insane, and NAY for the hospital stafff. They were authority and since I felt I could relate to the depressed I thought we were the good guys, they were just trying to destroy our spirits/souls.
Now I see that was never the case. The Hospital Staff had a grip on reality, the way things ran, the government, institutions, their own responsibility for the patients, and their own responsibility to try to keep them calm and "help" them, and if that wasn't an option, to treat them to at least be "calm" in a safe environment that's away from general society, which they're incapable of being in.
It's funny how depression/anxiety/ and other neurological disorders affect your perception.
When people ask, "how do you know what's real and normal from what's not?"
Well we don't really have a choice. It basically comes down to, we have a real world out there going on, and if you're unable to grasp it, know things about it, function in it, and what not, then you're the one with the problem, not the world. That's basically reality. Now, the world itself is a crazy/hectic/complicated place, and just because you may n ot be able to function in it doesn't make you the bad guy, but that's the guidelines by which they go by.
When you're "Crazy" not many people will see or feel what you're going through, aside from the other members who also have your condition, that's why it's SO hard to relate to the un-depressed.