Eating and Readings - WTH (what the heck) I don't like using the other acronym :)

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   Posted 8/31/2009 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I can eat really good and get 198....and then eat really bad (last night for dinner I had a small portion of ham, cracker barrels sweet baby corn muffin, and a half of biscuit with a little jelly, and one helping of the potato casserole. I had popcorn later that night. My reading this morning was lower than it ever is in the AM. 141.

Before I started diet and fasting blood sugar was 226. Now, my averages with glucophage is 170.6 in the AM before breakfast and 160 PM. So its coming down.....Most of the time I eat well. When they did the A1C my average was 7.6 or 170...but I really think that A1C was partially lower or average blood sugar, and partially the 200's (I only say that since I got a couple in the 200's before I started the diet and my fasting blood sugar was so high that prompted the A1C - and my doctor said we caught this really early).

I think only I might follow what I just said there.

Lanie G
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   Posted 8/31/2009 9:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm glad your blood sugar is coming down from where it was but it needs to be lower.  Eating as you did at Cracker Barrel is not helping you do that. 

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   Posted 8/31/2009 10:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I know - I must be strong. I have a weakness when it comes to food and I ams till mad that I am 35 and have to be so careful. I keep telling myself there are children who do this....stop bellyaching. I meet with a nurse today and dietician tomorrow...but for now, I have been sticking to the 40-60 carbs a meal plan. last night was the first time I was unable to really verify carb count. I know I ate probably 30 carbs in potato, and I have no idea about the bread. Nothing in the ham, it wasn't sugar cured...and the carrots are on their low carb menu, so hopefully not much there.


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   Posted 8/31/2009 10:20 PM (GMT -7)   
It may very well be that having a high carb meal triggered your body to release more insulin into your system which brought your BSL down. In the long run though having this happen will cause more harm than good since part of Type II diabetes is thought to be caused by insulin resistance so having your body produce the extra insulin to compensate for the extra carbs will end up increasing its resistance.

Part of what you need to learn is how to estimate carbs when you don't have exact figures to go by. It is not as hard as it sounds.

You will end up hearing about Carb Units. A CU is 15 grams of carbs.

A single piece of bread, small-med potato, 1/2 cup of mashed potatoes are all 1 carb unit each. Be sure this is brought up when you talk to the Nurse Educator and Dietitian.

One of the best ways to learn though is to carefully measure your food at home for a single serving per the label when you eat and look at the package to see how many carbs are in a serving. Then you will have a good idea how that serving should look on your plate.

One of the keys to having a stable BSL is to have a stable diet where you consume roughly the same calories and the same carbs at each meal and each day.
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   Posted 9/1/2009 4:39 AM (GMT -7)   

That bears repeating ...

"Part of what you need to learn is how to estimate carbs when you don't have exact figures to go by. It is not as hard as it sounds."  Jim is right. 

I use the "if its white (potatoes, bread, flour, pasta, sugar ...) its probably loaded with carbs" rule.  When in doubt, cut the portion in half or just eat less.  If you're still hungry, fill up on proteins, fats and vegetables.

Also, eat slower during main meals and snack in between.  Nuts, cheese & veggies work for me.

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   Posted 9/1/2009 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Guesstimating carbs can be OK as long as you at least have an understanding of what they are. It may seem like a pain in the butt to measure and log and read nutrition labels but, that basic knowledge it gives you if you do it for a while, becomes invaluable to actually managing diabetes.

Diabetes can be roughly translated into "difficulty metabolizing carbs", which is why we have to learn what they are and how they affect us. There are good carbs and bad carbs. We KNOW the ones that affect are blood sugars the most are the starchy carbs: potatoes/tubers, corn, rice, pasta, breads/things made from flour. Some of these have more of an effect on blood sugar than regular table sugar does. This is important to know.

Natava, your Cracker Barrel meal and the popcorn probably put you up around 130-150 grams of carbs. That's a lot of carbs eaten within a few hours! Your pancreas was definitely working overtime to clear the glucose from your blood despite your morning reading. In fact, it's probably due to all the hard work your body was doing and may even be still doing well into the next day with a meal like that.

If you like to eat out you still can, just educate yourself first. Most popular restaurants have their menu's nutritional info on-line. It helps to at least make better/more informed choices. I found the Cracker Barrel menu items mentioned above as having the following carb counts:
- biscuit = 18.3gr
- corn muffin = 50gr
- carrots = 5gr
- CB's "copy cat" carrots = 21.9gr

You said you thought you ate about 30gr of potatoes and popcorn (3-4Cups=20gr), and had jelly on your biscuit (add a few extra carbs there). It all adds up to a lot of carbs, I'm afraid :-(
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)
"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows"-Epictetus

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