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Virgogirl67
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   Posted 7/21/2016 7:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Like usual, when I am confused with my health concerns, I always turn to this wonderful site!

I turned to Healingwell a couple months ago when my doctor diagnosed me with pre-diabetes due to an overnight fasting of 117. I lamented my frustration that I was not told with a reading of 101, then 6 months later 108, that I was pre-diabetic. It was not until 6 months after that, and a reading of 117 that my doctor told me I was considered pre-diabetic, and he gave me a copy of the ADA diet. Which confused me, because it has far more carbs than I ever eat.

He also prescribed a glucose monitor, but didn't really say when to use it, and what to watch for etc. So I have been consuming info on line and through books daily trying to figure out what is the right course of action.

Needless to say, it's all conflicting information. I am my own worse enemy. It's like I don't know where to start, so I do a lot of healthy things, balanced with some unhealthy things until I can find "the one best way" to get me on the correct course to prevent this disease.

So, here is my main concern right now. I have been using the blood monitor as a once in a while overnight fasting test to see how things change.

about 6 weeks ago, after overnight fasting it read 116. I was happy because I thought "wow, ok, the good things I am doing pushed it down a bit. I waiting a few weeks and tested again, it was 125! I freaked.

My husband and I had a long weekend at the lake coming up with very good friends, but when we are all together we don't watch what we eat or drink. I did better than most; low carb wraps, none of the fatty meats, etc. But I did drink wine every night while we all played cards etc.

I waited a couple days to test my fasting level. I tested it this morning and it was 126! I have googled everything trying to find out if this one reading means I truly stumbled right into diabetes rather quickly, from prediabetes. In my mind, my thoughts are once you get out of the pre-diabetes range even once, it means you now have diabetes. But nothing I have read on line has been helpful.

Can anyone tell me what this might mean. I know it certainly means to continue to make better choices and activity at an even faster pace. Unfortunately, I have always battle an all or nothing mind set, and if I can't be perfect, I sometimes sabotage myself. I'm really worried that the one reading means I am now a full blown diabetic. Any suggestions?? Any advice?? I mean, for me to have 2 readings so close that increased both times is freaking me out. When I read at the doctor every 6 months it appears to have gone up gradually over the course of 6 months, not 1 week, or 1 month. He never tells me what my A1c is, but the fasting glucose.

Thanks for any advice, I truly appreciate it!!!

Post Edited (Virgogirl67) : 7/21/2016 8:16:09 AM (GMT-6)


Lanie G
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   Posted 7/21/2016 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome back Virgogirl. Have you reread the thread from back in May when you posted about being diagnosed as prediabetic? www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=20&m=3643743

I gave you a link to a website that has a lot of information about blood sugar and recommended a book for you to get about diabetes by Dr. Bernstein. I hope you have been reading that website and bought that book!

Your fasting blood sugar will generally reflect what you've eaten the day before up to dinner cumulatively but your blood sugar test result will have nothing to do with how you were eating a week before that or during other days. From your other blood sugar results, you have not had fasting in the 'normal' range so you will not have a normal fasting result in the morning without being strictly low-carb in your diet which would be greatly helped with a regular, daily exercise plan of about 30 minutes of walking or some other sustained exercise.

For example, I can have totally normal fasting blood sugar every morning that I test IF I stick to my low/no carb diet and get that regular exercise in everyday. However, if I go off that plan even for a day, I will have an elevated fasting blood sugar the next morning. I think that's what's happening with you.

Unfortunately, this does not disappear. I know it's very hard to keep a strict diet and exercise plan because although I did it for several years, I couldn't continue after dealing with bouts of bursitis and sciatic nerve pain as well as going off the diet here and there. My blood sugar rose and now I'm on metformin but I am back on my low-carb plan and finally getting back into regular cardio exercise.

As I'm sure I wrote in my original posts to you, the ADA meal plans are very high in carbs and will keep your blood sugar very high. All the pamphlets I got from the doctor's office use their plans and when I did follow it for a few days, my blood sugar was sky high. In addition to this, be aware that the ADA advises higher blood sugar parameters for diabetics (and prediabetics) and so, following their blood sugar guidelines, your blood sugar will remain high or elevated. I disregard all that and aim for real normal blood sugar.

So, if I were you, I would start testing a few times a day in order to know how the food you're eating is affecting your blood sugar. When you get up (fasting), right before a meal and then about two hours afterward. Keep a daily journal with these blood sugar reading and make sure you write down exactly the times and what you're eating. This will tell you what food works.

I wonder about a doctor that doesn't tell you your test results like the A1c or instruct you to test after meals. I would want another doctor!
Lanie

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Virgogirl67
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   Posted 7/21/2016 8:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lanie,

Yes, I indeed bought the book. It certainly is a strict lifestyle. I have incorporated low net carb wraps, and only one fruit a day etc. But really relaxed on vacation. Still ate bean based high protein nacho chips with my guac, but I know that is still carb.

Low carb diets really make me constipated for some reason. But I know I have to work harder. I was looking into a diabetes coach; However, most of them go by the ADA, and I know that is not right for me. I never ate that many carbs in the first place.

I have watched some youtube on Dr. Mowll, which are pretty good. He advocates low carb, and explains things really well. If he were local, I would visit his practice for sure!

I did not catch the link the last time, or maybe I just don't remember reading through it because at this point, I've gorged on info, so much so, that I am allowing myself to become stymied by all of it.

I'm also realizing, even if you have pre-diabetes, that does not mean you get that under control and then never get diabetes. I have to treat it like I have diabetes already for the rest of my life. Because that is becoming more and more clear to me, I think I am in the "freaked out" stage, and mad at myself for letting my health get so bad, knowing full well diabetes is a complete epidemic on my dad's side of the family.

I was very active most of my youth, and well into my early 40's. But still, my annual reading of 99 almost always, never gave me reason to be concerned because it was steady every time, but my doctor didn't tell me it was probably too high. I Irish danced from age 12 a couple days a week, walked my hilly neighborhood a few times a week. In the winter I would do exercise videos etc.

4 years ago this month I had dual foot injuries, had to have surgery, and was basically in some form of air boot, or surgical shoes for a year of my life. On top of that I lost my job, and had to go back into bank branch management, which is intense and so very stressful. Really, no one would ever know it unless you live it daily. I've been very lax with my diet and exercise, put on about 50 pounds in those 4 years. So I have to own this situation and be a better host to my body!

I do have a couple hearty glasses of red wine most nights, it's how I "relax" from long tough, impossible to meet goals to save my job, short staffed, customer complaints, micromanaged to death etc.. kinda days. That really needs to stop now!!! I need to once again make exercise my release!

I will take a look at that link again Lanie. I have used this site for a couple other health issues over the years. I must say you are such a kind hearted moderator. All of them are, but you are so engaged, honest, and knowledgeable for sure. Thanks so much!

Lanie G
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   Posted 7/21/2016 8:39 AM (GMT -7)   
None of this is your fault! If it's on your father's side of the family, it was probably only a matter of time before it showed up in you but you have the resources that they didn't have. Also, you've been very active with Irish dancing and that is wonderful for helping control blood sugar.

We do have ways to avoid some of our family's legacy though. It is on my mother's side of the family and it killed my grandmother and my mother (I'm 67.) but they did not have blood sugar meters and there was no Internet. So, ten years ago when I was finally prescribed a meter, it was only then that I learned about blood sugar and thank goodness for the resources available to us today. That website nicknamed Bloodsugar 101 will give you a lot of important imformation; there's a section on food, too. I have read through Bernstein's book a lot but I am not as strict as he suggests. Don't forget that he is a type 1 and he has to use insulin and the amount he uses directly depends on what his blood sugar readings are. But the information he has in the book will make you more aware of your health. He also has recipes at the back. :-)

By the way, a glass of red wine at night may be beneficial to you and will not raise your blood sugar unless it's a sweetened wine. Fortified wines like sherry, port, marsala sometimes have sugar added.
Lanie

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diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Virgogirl67
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Date Joined Feb 2010
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   Posted 7/21/2016 10:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much Lanie. You certainly help put things in a better light, relative to the resources available to us now. Though some advice is conflicting, I think over all, awareness, and all the other tools is a personal balance as to what works for each of us. And that is what I hope for myself, you, and others. Though it seems you have a good handle on yours for sure.

Yep, Berstein is really strict. I love smashed cauliflower, so to eat a bit more than he feels is reasonable, won't hurt me as much as it may impact him. At least that is how I feel.

I saved that link you sent to my favorites. I took the rest of the week off after our lake trip to read up, and put some sort of plan into action for wellness. Thanks for being a part of that plan!!!

Anita

Lanie G
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   Posted 7/21/2016 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey there again, Anita! I also love the smashed, mashed cauliflower and sometimes I eat that alone for lunch with butter! Somehow that satisfies a need I have. lol

I also eat pancakes a few times a week. I got the idea somewhere and then I made it my way. I even posted it on here awhile back but what I do now is a bit different: I put an egg in a bowl with some canola oil, warm water (just a little bit of those two, like a few spoons), and enough wheat bran to make a batter consistency, then about a teaspoon of baking powder and vanilla, a dash of salt. I mix it up really well and give it a couple of minutes for the bran to absorb the water. If it's too thick, I add some drops of water and stir again. Then I put a couple of pats of butter in a pan and make two pancakes. I eat them with whipped butter and Log Cabin Sugar Free Maple Syrup. The whipped butter goes much further than regular butter because there's so much air in it.

The bottom line is my blood sugar. I fell for all the low-carb products and recipes and diets these past ten years and followed the ADA and the plan a nutritionist gave me (two dietitians, in fact) and when I tested my blood sugar and saw the results I knew, what worked and what didn't. If my blood sugar is high, no one else is to blame because it's me who puts the food in my mouth - and if my blood sugar is continuously high, it will cause complications. Diabetes can cause heart damage, glaucoma (untreated can lead to blindness), neuropathy, kidney disease. In short, it can kill me, so this is why I know it's so important to keep it as close to normal as I can. The guidelines given by the ADA for blood sugar are too high. I feel very strongly about that.

If you slip up, you slip up but you learn something, I hope. Don't let a slip derail you. Now go have that glass of wine (and some cheese).
yeah
Lanie

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Lanie G
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 6029
   Posted 7/21/2016 2:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I forgot to mention this but you wrote that you sometimes had constipation. I would recommend broccoli! If you eat a few raw florets with a salad or much on them between meals a couple of times a day, that may help. And of course drink enough water.
Lanie

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Virgogirl67
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Date Joined Feb 2010
Total Posts : 130
   Posted 7/21/2016 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Lanie!!! I just copied your recipe for those pancakes.

I do think it will be trial and error as I go, but I saw first hand what this disease did to my grandmother. Also, I work in a city about 13 miles from where I live. It is not a major city, but a decent size. It has a lot of low income, subsidized housing right by my branch. I cannot tell you how many people on assistance come in with severe disabilities due to diabetes!!! So even if I have to tape up pictures of the impact of this disease from medical journals as a daily reminder of what could happen, that is what I will do!

Take care! I am sure I will visit the site again and again. wink smilewinkgrin
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