How do I stop getting sooooo FAT

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   Posted 7/19/2006 5:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I am new here and wanted to throw this around to other diabetics, as I know what my Dr. will say.
I am a type 1 diabetic since I was 14.  I am now 48 yr old and I am starting to get big around the waist.  I weigh about 177 and am 5'8" but have a inner tube around my waist that I want to lose.
My last A1c was 8 and my BG runs any where from 34 - 270.  Yea, I know it sounds like I am out of control but I feel great.  All my blood tests come back normal except my BG.
I was thinking about stopping my night time shot of 10 units of NPH.  Every time I take that shot I have to eat a bunch of food before I go to bed as I don't feel low blood sugars and I am scared to death of not waking up.
I always wake up with a BG anywhere from 43-150, and not only am I scared of the low blood sugars at night but I am getting FAT and I think all of this before bed snacks is what is making me get fatter and fatter as I eat and then go to bed.
I am sorry this is soooo long, but I was wanting some feedback from fellow diabetics.

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   Posted 7/19/2006 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there,
I can direct you to a website that explodes some myths about abdominal exercises and losing those "love handles(that's what they are called)";
Love handles

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   Posted 7/19/2006 6:12 PM (GMT -7)   
You need to hear from some of our other Type 1 peeps. They can help you better than I can.
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   Posted 7/19/2006 6:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hiya, quatlox... I'm a Type 1 and was wondering, is NPH the only insulin you are on? I started on NPH then moved to Lantus and recently moved to Levemir for my basal/background insulin but I also take NovoRapid with every meal and snack over 15 grams/carbs.

I would think that stopping to take your nightime dose of NPH would be detremental to your well-being, to say the least. I don't doubt that some kind of change to your diet and/or your medication would be in order, especially with those scary lows, but I would still suggest to talk to your doctor (hopefully an Endo) first. BTW, what kind of snack do you eat at night?

Also, if you've been a diabetic for as long as you have, where is/are your main injection sites? Are they mainly in the "inner tube" area by chance? Sometimes long-time insulin users can develop hardening of the fat tissue, due to frequent insulin injections. This "hardening" also, over time, can lead to slower insulin absorbtion, too. There's not much that can be done about it other than to frequently rotate your injection sites to avoid this happening (or happening faster than it may eventually).
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)

"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

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   Posted 7/19/2006 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I do heart throbbing exercise 4 times a week. Thanks for the link.

I do 10u REG and 30u NPH in AM and 10u NPH in PM.
I have done Lantus and NovaLog. That suff will KILL me. I can not feel LOWS on that stuff, that is why I am on the REG and NPH. I would be on Beef and Pork insulin if they wern't taking it off the market. I do a PB sandwich at night and still wake up with BG of 70-120. Why should I take insulin at night if the only thing it does is make me eat to keep my sugar up so I won't go LOW.

I can wait until my insulin kicks in before eating breakfast in the AM. Maybe I could reduce the amount I am taking or cut it out completely at night.

I know that I will lose about 10 years off of my life by keeping my BG high, I try to run 150-200, but isn't it better to die 10 years early than to die today of a LOW blood sugar (have you ever heard of "DEAD IN BED").

It really sucks that I don't feel the LOWS. I can carry on a conversation with a BG of 29 and the person I am talking to and myself won't even know something is wrong.

My DR is an ENDO and he just keeps telling me take these large amounts of insulin because he wants my A1c to be 7 or lower. I have already dropped 2 ENDOs because we have BIG disagreements about the insulin intake. If they took insulin and didn't feel the LOWS they would know what I am talking about, but all they want to do is keep that A1c down low and when I die of LOW, I bet they will not even acknowledge that it was all of that insulin that did it.

Believe me, I have to regulate my own insulin, if I listened to those guys I would have been dead by now. I just go to them to get my scrips filled and check my A1c.

I do move injections around-legs, butt, belly. I don't think I have anything like Hardening of the fat tissue.

I guess the real question is: if I have a BG of 100-150 at night. Do I need an insulin shot to "carry me thru to the morning" when I have to EAT, so I won't be "DEAD IN BED"?

I just want feedback from REAL DIABETICS, not some person who has never lived with diabetes or experienced a LOW.

Sorry if I am *****ing and moaning.


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   Posted 7/19/2006 10:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Your numbers sound high.  I know you may feel great now, but . . .
Anyway, I reccomend you read Dr. Richard K. Bernstein's book "The Diabetes Solution".
He is also a T1 diabetic.  He is now in his 70's.  His approach is a low-carb diet.  Believe me, you will lose weight on a low carb diet.  You will also improve you A1C's and, at the same time, be able to reduce your insulin intake.
He also has a website with a forum.  There are many T1's who post there.  It's the one of the best diabetes forums on the internet IMO.  Just type "The Diabetes Solution" into Google and you should get to the forum.

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   Posted 7/20/2006 6:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I did NOT take my shot last night (10u NPH).

My BG was 136 when I went to bed last night. No Snack and NO Insulin.

This morning my BG was 73.........YES.

It seems I am ony taking the PM insulin so that I have to FEED it to keep from being "DEAD IN BED".

One night does not make me a believer, I will give it a month and see how it works.

I'll keep everyone posted as to the results.

Santoz, Thanks for the link to "The Diabetes Solution".


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   Posted 7/20/2006 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi quatlox,

Im not here to comment on your nightime dose of insulin, but to give you some feedback on your original question.  Insulin cue's the bodys fat storage mechanism. Increased insulin levels cause fat to be deposited more prevalently in your belly, rather than other areas of the body. So, if you are a a regular insulin user, it is more than possible that you are struggling with belly fat.

One of the most obvious ways to combat fat and the ravages of stress is with exercise. Exercise represents a triple threat to body fat. First, exercise burns calories and utilizes stored body fat as fuel. Second, working out increases the amount of lean muscle mass your body must provide with fuel on a 24 hour a day basis. More muscle means less fat.

Researchers from Yale University have now clearly demonstrated a third mechanism by which exercise reduces stores of body fat, especially around the belly. They've demonstrated that moderate to vigorous exercise, such as lifting weights, can offset the negative effects of cortisol and insulin. With as little as ten minutes of strenuous exercise the brain begins to produce beta- endorphins that calm you down and decrease levels of the stress hormone. Many feel that strenuous exercise actually mimics a typical caveman-like physical reaction to a threat, and is the modern-day version of an appropriate reaction to the flight or fight response.

Hope this helps

scool  Warren

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   Posted 7/20/2006 12:41 PM (GMT -7)   

I have been doing 1/2 hour of aerobic exercise 4 days a week. Maybe thats not enough for me.

The vigorous exercise such as lifting weights had never crossed my mind (I always thought that was for Body Builders). What you are saying makes a lot of sense and also combats two of the biggest problems we fight with daily - Stress and Calories.

I will have to try some strenuous exercise.

Thanks for your input towards my problem.


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   Posted 7/21/2006 7:25 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi there,

              We have to make a subtle distinction between Two types of fat that lie under our bellies.One is the one you see"the subcutaneous fat"or the fat under your skin.The second and far more sinister is the"visceral fat".

Controlling visceral fat is important, because increased levels have been associated with insulin resistance, cardiovascular disease and other metabolic syndromes. Visceral fat is located around the organs inside the belly and is deeper in the body than the subcutaneous fat.Visceral fat is strongly correlated with waist circumference.In a trial which was funded a $4.3 million grant from the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute in 1998 to investigate the effects of exercise on sedentary overweight adults at risk for developing heart disease and/or diabetes. The results of that five-year trial, dubbed STRRIDE (Studies of Targeted Risk Reduction Interventions through Defined Exercise), are now being published and presented.   THE important message for all of us that EXERCISE MODERATE OR SEVERE,WHETHER IT LEADS TO WEIGHT LOSS OR NOT IN THE SHORT RUN, BENEFITS THE HEART AND REDUCES BLOOD FATS SIGNIFICANTLY.

A new study reported in April,2006:

"We're trying to find out which factors are most associated with disease," says Dr. Ross, noting that earlier studies have shown weight is not the most important indicator. "It's possible to exercise and decrease your risk even though weight may stay the same."

When looking at Diet weight loss versus exercise weight loss, those who exercise tend to lose more visceral fat and maintain muscle fat better than those using strictly a diet approach, he points out. "This reinforces the importance of maintaining regular physical activity."

Post Edited (spooky) : 7/21/2006 9:05:24 AM (GMT-6)

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