Raw Milk versus Pasteurized Milk

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   Posted 9/28/2007 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
The October issue of the Douglass Report gives some interesting facts on the subject of Raw Milk versus Pasteurized Milk.
Dr. W.C. Douglass, II, MD has always been a cheerleader for Raw Milk. His advise is NEVER DRINK PASTEURIZED MILK. PERIOD.
According to his research in this matter, he states pasteurized milk if far more dangerous than raw milk will ever be. The world only had a couple thousand years experience in people drinking raw milk and it did not harm people then and will not now according to Dr. Douglass.
Howver he obtained information fro the Center of Disease Control and it give the following. From 1998 through 2005, raw milk was responsible for 1,007 illnesses and two deaths (although they were unsubstantiated that the milk was the cause. But from pasteurized milk there were over 200,000 cases of food poisoning from pasteurized milk and 600 people died. Raw milk contains the good bacteria probiotics which are able to destroy any harmful pathogens that may be present. When milk is pasteurized, the protective probiotics are destroyed and the milk becomes susceptible to dangerous bacteria.
There are only 9 states now that declares sale of raw milk illegal. You can go to www.realmilk.com to see if your state allows and under what conditions.
I thought this may be good information for some who may question the value of raw milk. In my family we have been using raw milk and butter for several years and it has reduced the number of illnesses with our children. May not work for everyone but I do agree with Dr. Douglass on the value of raw milk..
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   Posted 9/29/2007 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I have never been a proponent of any animal milks for humans other than in cheese or yogurt form. One of my daughters has Crohne's Disease and it has been theorized that one of the etiologies of the disease is exposure to a slow growing mycobacteria found in milk... pasteurized or not. Because of this none of my grandchildren are allowed to have anything but ultrapasturized organic or canned milk so all of the bacteria are killed.

I wonder... over half of the population of the earth lives in countries where milk is unavailable and they grow up big and strong. Many Asian peoples are lactose intolerant and so don't use dairy products in their food plan. My urologist told me that in most of the U.S. if children were given regular vitamins for their A & D they would get all the calcium they need from the water supply. I believe much of the dairy push is commercial salesmanship. Just my 2ยข.
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   Posted 10/4/2007 7:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Um, isn't this thread rather off topic for a diabetes forum? Even if not, it's badly misleading. Comparing the number of cases of food poisoning from consumption of pasteurized milk to that from unpasteurized milk is useless unless we know how much more pasteurized milk is drunk.
200 times more cases from pasteurized milk? That sounds like a very good argument FOR pasteurization to me. This site
http://foodsafetyinfo.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7644 says that only .01% of the milk in the UK (where unpasteurized milk is legal) is unpasteurized. Since the sale of unpasteurized milk is illegal in most of the US, I'd expect the US to have even less unpasteurized milk, but even at .01%  that's only 30,000 people drinking unpasteurized milk in a population of 300 million. More than 1000 cases of illness from unpasteurized milk in that small population doesn't sound very healthy to me.
Pasteurizing milk is considered by some to be the single greatest public health innovation ever. The infant mortality rate fell drastically as pasteurization was introduced. I believe New York's infant mortatlity rate was about 10% ca. 1900, and I've seen Montreal's listed as a staggering 25%! The benefits vastly outweigh the risks, so I'll stick with my pasteurized milk. I also get vaccinations, X-rays when I need them, and I don't spent much time worrying that I'll die because my seltbelt jams just as my car stalls on a railroad crossing.

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   Posted 10/5/2007 2:04 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm with you on this one, Jeannie. I can't think of another mammal besides us that still consumes milk beyond the first few months of life. It's baby food, for goodness sake!
Seriously though, I suppose milk is simply a useful by-product of our animal husbandry which we've practiced for a few thousand years now. Many of us here would probably agree that it's disadvantages heavily outweigh it's advantages when it comes to keeping control of our blood sugars however. If the calcium is important, my feeling is that it's better obtained from cream and cheese, when the lactose is kept to a minimum. And it still keeps all those cows in a job. I've never felt too comfortable with milk production's ugly sister - the veal trade - all the same.

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