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   Posted 8/5/2008 12:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all!!!
Just got back from vacation in Ocean City Md, I did a lot of walking and working out in the water, when I would wake up the next day...I would feel like a truck hit me. Most of the time if I took my time and walked it out I was okay, a few days I needed pain meds.
So I when to my rhumy today and I was telling her how I'm having an awful time with the sleep deprivation with the percocet. She prescribed utram er and gave me samples. Does this med work? I just need to be able to take something that will not interfier with sleep. She also said I should take ambien everynight at 7 for the next few weeks to get myself caught up on some sleep. (I've been averaging about 3-4 hrs sleep and I can't concentrate worth a darn at work all I want to do is go home and go to bed)
Lyrica 150 Mg X 2/Ativan 1 Mg before bed/Break-Thru=Percocet & MR's

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   Posted 8/5/2008 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   


First of all, I am not a doctor, but I do consider myself someone who knows a lot about different pain meds.  Did your rheumy happen to mention to you that the Ultram may reverse the effects of your Percocet?  Ultram is an antagonist/agonist-which can counter effect the Percocet (which is a true agonist).  What I am trying to say in my typical babbling way is that the Ultram may cause your Percocet not to work.  Again, I am not a doctor, just a person who speaks from experience.  I also know that Ultram affects people differently.  When I used to take Ultram, I would get that high, euphoric feeling.  Other people have told me that they don't get that feeling at all.  I think that is why docs are Rxing a lot of Ultram-because they think that it is less addicting.

I'm only suggesting this because I am a recovering addict, and I have had doctors try to Rx Ultram for me-when it clearly states that Ultram and Methadone do not mix.  If I took Ultram, not only could I go into severe withdrawals, I could die. skull   Obviously, I am a "special case" when it comes to narcotics, but after 2 different doctors tried to Rx me a potentially life threatening drug (life threatening to me), I made sure that I always do my homework when it comes to any new drug that I am Rxd.  I am always amazed when I see that people are on both Ultram and Percocet or Ultram and fentanyl patches.  Do these doctors know what they are doing? confused

Anyway, I'll repeat myself again and tell you that I don't know everything.  I just know my own body and when the facts are there in balck and white, it's hard for me not to speak up.  I hope I haven't scared you or confused you any further.  I just wanted to give you a "heads up" on things.

I suggest you do some research and talk to you doc about it the next time you see her.  Just my opinion, but since you are a part of our fibro family, I want you to be safe. :-)

FINALLY dxd on 06/13/08
Vicodin, Neurontin, Ibuprofen for pain-which doesn't help, BTW
Zoloft & methadone (NOT for pain) for sanity-which doesn't help, BTW
Klonopin for anxiety (Guess what?  Doesn't help!)
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   Posted 8/5/2008 1:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Ultram...does it work?  For some people, yes, just like other meds.  I have been taking it for at least 2 years.  Helps block pain much better than NSAIDs. keeps me from sleeping, like most narcotics do.  Everyone that hears this from me does not beleive it.  Early on it caused hallucinations but I was willing to live with that since it helped block pain (and my PCP would not prescribe anything stronger).  I don't get hallucinations anymore.  It also makes me more energetic, therefore I overdo a lot of things.  So it can be bad in that sense.  It also can be hard to stop; when I ran out and pharmacy was closed I had to just go back to bed!  I was useless until I got my prescription filled.  It is addictive, not just because it stops pain, and your body needs more of it over time to keep working.  So, all that said, I still take it, although I would prefer an alternative, like finding a true healing of the source instead of covering up the pain all the time.
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   Posted 8/5/2008 2:26 PM (GMT -7)   
HI Rose,

Welcome to the HealingWell fibromyalgia forum. It is always wonderful to have a new member.

I took ultram quite a few years ago. It didn't help much, but it did help some. Everybody is different so what works for some, doesn't always work for the other.

I hope that it works for you.

hugs, Karen...
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   Posted 8/6/2008 8:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Rose and welcome to our family.
I have not tried Ultram ER. But I do take 50mg of tramadol/ultram when the tylenol doesn't help. It might help the pain a little more than tylenol but for the most part I can't even tell I take it, so no side affects.
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   Posted 8/6/2008 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Rose,

I took Ultram for about a year. It seemed to help for awile, but suddenly just stopped working. I didn't experience any adverse side effects with it. I wish you well. :)


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   Posted 8/6/2008 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry I should of made it more clear, my doctor does not want me taking the percocet in conjuntion with the ultram. She wants me to trying taking it in the place of the percocet but every day. I can tell you this so far I'm not liking it too much. I have break-thru pain today and I took the 200 mg of it and its hasn't done anything for my head. Now I feel screwed because I guess I'm stuck in pain since I can't take anything else on top of this stuff!!!
Its going to be a long, long night that is for sure sad
Lyrica 150 Mg X 2/Ativan 1 Mg before bed/Break-Thru=Percocet & MR's

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   Posted 8/6/2008 7:07 PM (GMT -7)   
First, thanks to all for the warm welcome. Second, hopegirl, sorry ultram does not work for you. I take 50mg 4x per day...I think I would be jumping out of my skin at a higher dose. It does not completely take pain away for me, and I have been advised I can add tylenol if necessary. Ultram is a drug that eventually your body gets used to and you need more, but I am not willing to go that route, so asked my PA the other day about Lyrica. She said to try it. Well I took one 75mg yesterday and I don't think I could take it during the day (too many side effects) but it really helped taking it at night. I woke up with much less pain this AM, but my brain was pretty fuzzy for a while.
Again thanks, and I look forward to reading through resources on this site.

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   Posted 8/7/2008 5:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome Rose,
     It's so good to have new people. The more there are the more we know, the more we know the stronger we are. Don't give up. You will find something that works better for you. Have you looked at the malic acid thread? It gives some people relief and it won't hurt you.
Hope Girl,
     I remember taking Ultram once. It made me spinning and all. I couldn't make it past that first pill.  I have a dear friend who uses it for knee pain. She developed  stomach trouble with it so be careful.
Blessings :-)
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   Posted 8/9/2008 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hope girl,

I take Ultram Er every night at bedtime. The first week I felt strange then I adapted to the meds and it helps with the pain. It does not disturb my sleep.
Good luck,

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