Chronic Hives - New info I just read

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   Posted 7/23/2010 7:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I've had chronic hives for several years now. They've never been able to pin it down to any cause. At least, not yet. I can't do scratch tests for allergies, because I also get what they call Dermatographic Uticaria (Uticaria = Hives). That just means that if I'm scratched, a red welt will raise up from the abrasion.

Anyway - I've read a lot about hives over the years, but this little tidbit is new to me. It talks about infections causing hives. I'm curious, because while I was on the antibiotics, I don't think I got any. But tonight, I seemed to get one. Why? Was there a low grade infection that was cleared up by the 17 days of doxycycline - and now it is back? It is something I will explore with my doc - or the new rheumatolgist when I see him on the 29th, or maybe even my dentist since possibly the infection is from the tooth - and has been low grade for years? I'm thinking aloud - sorry.

Thought I'd share in case it is important to anyone else with chronic hives.


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Infections can lead to the formation of hives, often of a chronic nature. Those those are obvious such as herpes, strep, and hepatitis B. Other infectious processes can be very subtle, such as gingivitis or dental abscesses, cytomegalovirus, Candida, cystitis (bladder), Coxsackie viruses, fungal infections, sinusitis, cholecystitis (gallbladder), parasitic worm infestation of the gut, (giardia, strongyloides, trichinella, ancyclostoma, ascaris, echinococcus, toxocara, shistosoma, and liver flukes)

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Other causes of chronic urticaria (remember, lasting more than six weeks) include undetected cancer, thyroid disease, ovarian hormonal effects (some women experience hives to the progesterone surge during their menstrual cycle), hyperparathyroidism, diabetes, and autoimmune diseases associated with what is known as complement deficiencies.

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Chronic conditions may also be caused by a low-grade infection, such as a fungal infection of the feet, yeast infections, bladder or kidney infections, a tooth abscess or a blocked sinus. Abnormal thyroid activity is the cause of chronic hives in one out of 400 people; a simple blood test can determine whether thyroid is the culprit.

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   Posted 7/23/2010 9:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I take vistril for my hives hon. It's a little green pill. I get them a lot, but I'm allergic to like everything. Like sacilyties (haha however you spell it but it is a natural form of asprin) gives me hives but when I am sick iwht an infection. So I think there is something to look at. I carry an Epi-Pen cuz of how bad I am. Lucky me, I've only had to inject it three times. Only one time I had to administer it myself, so I cheated like I'm really going to stick that huge needle in me? Nope. So I shot it in a sterile glass and used a diabetic syringe to administer it LOL!
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   Posted 7/24/2010 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Desiree, thanks for letting me know about your struggle with hives. I'm sorry you get them, too, but it helps knowing others like us. I think there were a few other members that I read about getting hives, but I can't recall who they were. (fog with names) Glad you've found things that work. Benadryl is my weapon for hives. Works really well for me. If I'm having incidents, I'll take it 3x a day and it keeps them gone. When things tame down, I just take it at night. I would like to not need anything - but - maybe if they can figure out the source, like if it is an infection maybe it could end. Crossing fingers anyway.

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   Posted 7/24/2010 9:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I have dermagraphism, and also get burning red spots but I believe mine are connected to MCTD. My rashes burn and do not itch. I can lightly scratch my name
on my arm and it will weal up and stay for a half an hour. Strange...

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   Posted 7/24/2010 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
When my daughter scratches an itch, a raised welt will occur.  This has gone on for years.  She does not have fibro. 
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   Posted 7/24/2010 4:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Robin and Sherrine. Yep, that both sounds like dermagraphism to me - Robin's for sure. It isn't harmful, but it keeps allergists from being able to use scratch allergy tests - you give positives to the scratches whether you're allergic to the testing material or not. In one way, I was sort of relieved that my allergist couldn't scratch me up, he had this wild idea of doing all sorts of tests on me but I wasn't too eager to blow up like a tick. He lost interest in finding an answer when it wasn't easy.

Robin, I'm going to have to read up on MCTD. I know they tested me for some autoimmune diseases back in 2004, but I don't know which ones. Maybe my new rheumy will run more and explain more. My hives usually come up as an intensely itchy, HOT, red mark first, then it swells into a wheal. I don't get them as much as I used to, thankfully. When I do, they tend to come out on my face first. Lovely looking.
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