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Fatigue+Pain=Yay!
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Posted 7/18/2011 8:11 PM (GMT -8)
Hello everyone,

This is my first post here. Hope I don't shatter any forum rules, but I don't know where else to turn and this seemed like a good place to seek some advice, or in the very least, vent. -- WARNING: I tend to write A LOT. I'm sorry if this is too long to read, but I want to be absolutely clear in communicating all of this. I completely understand if any of you opt not to read it.

I'm going to describe my condition and then provide my story, as it may help paint the picture better. If you want to SKIP my story and just see what I'm feeling today, read the first few paragraphs below this. I hope you will read it all anyway, but I'm not gonna force ya.

Let me start off by saying that I never try to diagnose myself by any means, nor am I seeking any of you to magically do the same. I leave that to the professionals. I am truly at my wits' end, but by no means suffering from depression or suicidal thoughts or anything crazy like that. Strong like bull! That being said, let me shed some light on who I am and how I am. And by the end of it all, who knows, maybe one of you will have some information for me that can help. If not, at least I'm getting it off my chest.

Section 1: Why Am I Here?

The reason I'm here posting in the Fibro section is that, ever since I learned what Fibro was a decade ago, the symptoms just resonated with familiarity with me. As I became older and did more of my homework, I learned about how the nerves can be affected, and having a sensation in every inch of my body would make sense if all my nerves were shouting. I'm not a doctor, but I know what I've felt for the last 14 years of my life. I've looked into other similar conditions and Fibro just hits so many more of the symptoms than everything else. But I'm not a doctor.

Section 2: And Just Who Do I Think I Am?

I'm a 27 year old white male from New England, turning 28 in September. I'm 5'8, 183 and always had/have a pretty athletic build, though I gots me a little round tummy the past 7-8 years from slowing metabolism, but I still appear to be in-shape (though I'm kinda not). I don't do any drugs, I've never been a smoker (lived with one for most of my life though), and I hardly ever drink. I know, I know, I'm a bore! lol

I am not diagnosed with anything, nor do I take any medication. I only take 2 vitamins as suggested by my new-ish doctor, after more recent blood tests: Vitamin D (deficiency) and Vitamin B Complex. Been taking these daily for maybe half a year now. I've been to 3-4 psychiatrists (one time each) at my mother's suggestion but I was easily found as mentally healthy every time. I'm a very stable dude, I have no criminal record, no driving record. Mental Illness does affect some of the women in my family, but I've never been suspected nor do I feel I should be. I do have an aunt that was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue, possibly two (not sure if the other was officially diagnosed. That one gave me a book on Fibro though so she was experiencing something, at least).

I have been unwillingly unemployed for roughly 7 years and I hate it. I'm a great, hard worker and I love making money, but my condition, whatever it is, doesn't let me be that way anymore. I've tried playing Semi-Pro football 3-4 different times. When I was 21 I played the whole 8-game season as a backup running back, but when I tried returning the next few seasons I found myself quitting in the pre-season each time. It was just too much for me somehow.

Section 3: *****What I Feel: *****

It's been pretty consistent for the last 14 years. I am exhausted all throughout the day in every sector of my body. The exhaustion is either bad, really bad, or unbearable. Maybe once every 1-3 months I'll have a day where I feel great, and I'll be motivated and want to accomplish everything. I dream of the time where every day could be like that. Along with this fatigue is a lot of pain and soreness, definitely worst in every inch of my legs, though noticible all over my body. I feel my heart beat all over whenever I'm sitting or laying down, even in small, specific places like my pinky toe or my eyelids (just examples. I feel it everywhere, my legs by far the worst).

Every time my heart beats, my pain and fatigue is echoed all over with a fresh signal of utter discomfort. My legs scream with fiery pain and agitation. I get the "pins and needles" feeling most of the time on top of it all, and I often describe it as "feeling like when you wrap an elastic really tightly around the base of your finger to where it starts to turn a different color, but instead that's both of my legs, and to a lesser extent my whole body." Whenever I'm relaxing I feel like I'm experiencing comfort and discomfort at the same time. When in a relaxing state I feel like there's a grocery list of different sensations going through my legs. Relaxed, stinging, humming, tired, pain, pins/needles, throbbing, fiery feeling, you name it. It's a mess. I also feel some of this in other places, like my arms and hands for example as I write this. But the legs are what do me in the most.

I know the difference between my body being sleepy and fatigued. This is most evident when I wake up in the morning after a full night's rest. My body isn't sleepy-tired, it's just completely drained of all energy. If that makes sense. I feel like I go to bed with 10x more physical energy/ability than when I wake up. My body just feels sooo heavy and that it takes all my strength to lift it up, even from a chair. I felt this way even when I was in the best shape of my life.

Speaking of strength: I'm a very strange combination of strong and weak. My muscle power is very impressive for someone that doesn't really work out. A year ago I did curls (52 lbs, sets of 8-12) but wasn't able to sustain it more than a couple months. I can do many physically demanding tasks easily like lifting (with arms and legs) heavy things, but at the same time just going down my steps each day my legs wobble with weakness.... How can this be? My arms are pretty big considering I don't work out, and I know I'm strong when it comes to applying lots of force, yet when I simply lift myself up with my arms on the kitchen counter my arms start shaking a lot immediately, even though I can hold myself up.

I don't know if I'm atrophied or not, probably to an extent. But I dunno. It's just very weird to be so strong and so weak at the same time.

I feel like the only upside to all of this is that when I lay in bed at night, I usually pass out pretty quick, even if I'm not tired, because I always feel exhausted so my body probably allows itself to conk right out in attempt to regenerate. This actually isn't a "plus" because the neurologist said it's not natural to be able to sleep at any time during the day at will, which I kinda can. Like I said, the mornings are the absolute worst for me. I wake up feeling like I just ran the Boston Marathon. My legs are pounding, I barely have energy to lift my head, and I often have to wait an hour or more to get enough energy to get out of bed. Unfortunately this leads to me falling back asleep (on accident, sometimes on purpose) for several hours, even if I already got enough sleep. Then I wake up and I've overslept, feel just as bad as I did the first time I woke up, and half the day is GONE.

Section 4: Doctors

I started seeing doctors around 16-17. The only words I heard were "I don't know". Many didn't really try at all to figure it out. One guy took, and I quote, "a stab in the dark" and prescribed me Zoloft, claiming that at lower doses the psychological effects wouldn't show but I could possibly feel better... Yeahhh, Day 1: I ended up MORE tired, yawning so wide in school that my jaw hurt, and I felt like an alien was living in my skin, artificially happy and giddy. I hated it. I've never had a mood disorder I've always been mentally healthy, and now I feel like someone fake is trapped in my body and they are living my day and I'm forced to watch jailed inside... All this was just one day on Zoloft! lol. So yeah, I stopped that immediately and stopped seeing that doctor.

I had a sleep study done, but they didn't put sensors on my legs so they couldn't conclude restless legs syndrome. I didn't go back. I've seen a Rhumatoid specialist, a neurologist, and I dunno what else. I used to go to a great chiropractor and he was kind enough to take me in as "research" so I didn't have to pay. He really wanted to see an improvement in me, and while he didn't cure me, I no doubt felt better and looser after an adjustment. I want to go to him again (or someone as good), but like I said, it's so hard doing anything that isn't in front of my computer screen.

I saw a fibromyalgia specialist when I was 17 (along with several other doctors), but for years I didn't explain what I was feeling very accurately, I didn't know how. The Fibro lady didn't seem terribly interested in figuring me out, but maybe, based on my immature description, she simply didn't think it was fibro. I'm older now, and have since tailored a more precise way to describe it. For example, when I was 17 I kept mentioning the FATIGUE, and not the PAIN. I didn't even know it was pain really because I was so used to it. I thought it was a bi-product of the fatigue. I would think, "Hey, I played through pain all the time in football, but you can't play/live through fatigue as easily, not without noticing it anyway". I figured that even if I was uncomfortable, I could get through my day fine, but if I was really fatigued, it would be so much harder... Boy was I WRONG. But hey, I was 17! I know now that pain AND fatigue together are a pretty mean combo, and one should not be any less respected or suspected than the other.

Early 2011 I started up the doctor thing again (every few years I shrug off the disappointment and try and get the ball rolling once more). My doctor at the beginning of this year used to always mock me every time she saw me because I tried to do a lot of research online. She would always smile real big and laugh and make a joke about the research I did, "Oh, because you would know, haha". Three visits with her and I was done. My "Mock Doc" suggested (as a guess) acupuncture, but due to financial constraints I never pursued it cause I wouldn't be able to keep up with the costs. She knew I had no income, too. She quit the profession a week before I was officially replacing her, coincidentally enough. Guess her heart just wasn't in it anymore, if it ever was... Not like peoples' health is important or anything though.

I'm with a new doctor now who seems to genuinely care (she came highly recommended), but we've only tried a couple things and I haven't seen her in months. She had my blood tested a couple times and in addition to Vitamin D deficiency, she found my testosterone was low. She put me on a low dose of testosterone (patches) for a few weeks, but an Endochronologist(sp?) told me that my doc jumped the gun a little bit, but had good intentions. I need to take a morning blood test still to determine my true testosterone levels but I'm having a hard time getting up in the morning to go. For now the Endo doc had me stop the patches. She was very nice and seemed on-point.

I'm going to see a fibro specialist when I can. It's just so hard to accomplish anything on my to-do list because of how I feel. It's hard to get anything done. If I run a quick errand and come back 10 minutes later, I just collapse into the nearest chair or bed and sit there because I don't have the strength to move, after barely doing anything at all.

Section 5: Other People & My Condition

How do you start the day when you feel like you just finished one? I also often describe it by asking people if they remember being really, really sick with a flu or something, and their whole body ached and they couldn't even try to move from their bed, and they were just glued to it all day, like they weighed 10,000 lbs, and they are so obliterated they have zero motivation to accomplish anything that day. Everyone always says yes. I tell them that this is how I am just about every day for the last 14 years.... They give me a strange look, half shocked, half confused. They don't really know what to say. A moment later they are probably thinking "yeah right, exaggeration" or "wow... he sounds messed up... I hope it's not contagious..."

Like I saw someone else say, I don't really bother explaining it to people any more. That other poster mentioned people's "eyes glazing over" and that's the exact same thing I've noticed. It sucks the most when your own family and friends stop caring, or believing you, or will often question why you don't just get up and do X as if there's no problem at all. They don't understand, no one I know has. Some days they want to understand, but other days they just can't fathom how someone could be this way, and therefore they occasionally don't think you have anything wrong outside of JUST BEING LAZY. That's the worst, when people, especially those close to you, think you are just lazy and want to be a leech your whole life, WHICH IS NOT TRUE FOR ME!

I don't want to say "I'm crippled" by this mysterious ailment, as I think truly crippled people have much more of a right to use that term. But in a way my life has been crippled by it, and continues to be. I've been unemployed for 7 years, I want to work sooo soo bad, but I know I would just struggle with a job. My last job I got promoted so I had to open the store, and I started to become late in getting there in the morning, eventually getting written up. I finally quit for several reasons in addition to not being able to consistently get to work.

I don't want to be a leech. I love my independence. I love working. I love sports. I love going out and doing things. I love getting things done. But I don't have any of these things right now. My girlfriend of 1.5 years is now recently being less patient with me and my condition, more frequently saying things like "you should chip in around here", "why don't you get a job so you have money", etc etc and it sometimes starts fights with us. This is how it goes. People that care about you are there at first, but then after a while with no improvement they lose faith in you and no longer empathize with you. That's when you start seeing the looks on their faces, as if they are calling you "lazy" over and over again in their heads.

Section 6: My Story (SKIP THIS if you want. Many details are not about my condition, but I will make the important physical parts bold for skimming)

It all started when I was 13. I came home from pop warner practice and I just collapsed my exhausted body into the chair in the kitchen. I was as dumbfounded as I was tired. My legs were killing me. I didn't wanna move. I had never come home from football so drained before, it didn't feel right, especially halfway through the season when my body is used to the exercise. I was in great shape at 13, had myself a little sexy 4-pack, not to mention all my life I've always been THE dominant sprinter in every league (baseball + football) I played in, that's what I was known for and borderline famous for in town.

It didn't go away. It hit its hardest my Sophomore and Junior years in high school. I had a job when I was 16, I loved working at the bank. I ended up getting a new teller position nearby when Junior year started, working part time. Not long into junior year, however, my condition had got worse than ever. I had so much trouble getting out of bed and getting to school. I was either late or absent so many darn times that teachers had meetings about it and I got "special help" getting the assignments and homework, because I missed so much school. I was a good student academically, but my grades were suffering from missing so many classes.

It was taking its toll on me so badly that, inexplicably, I quit football. I quit my job, and I continued to struggle just to make it to school. I've loved my sports all my life, so the thought of me quitting still astounds me to this day. To add salt to the wound, I even missed my golden opportunity for a study date with my high school crush because I just couldn't lift my body that day. Missed the whole day and our study thing scheduled after. Regretted it for a long, long time.

That junior year is when I really started making the rounds with doctors (seen above in Section 4). I BARELY passed junior year with enough credits, with help from a summer school class I completed. I started off my senior year surprisingly well with attendance. I was getting up around 5am automatically, easing into the day. I dunno, I was functional for the first time in a while. I found out that they were removing the credits for the study I was in, the one that helped me get my assignments and keep me on track and all that. I shrugged it off, I was probably fine.

Then my evil guidance counselor wrongly told me that she would blow the whistle on me if I played football senior year, due to my grades junior year. I should've known it only applied to CURRENT grades. I played anyway. She found out the second week and had me removed from the team, again, wrongfully.

This was a big blow for me, but I tried to shrug it off and I kept going to practices (I just couldn't play in games). After a few weeks of that I quit, it was too insulting and angering. October-November I was doing okay with attendance, but I soon learned that even with a complete year I wouldn't have enough credits to graduate. That's when I realized the study credits removal just cost me my diploma. After consulting and being told there's nothing I could do, I dropped out, and the following summer got my GED.

My condition, never fully having left, came back to full-strength and hasn't weakened since. Every year since high school has just blown right past me. My life, often full of inactivity, had all the years blending together because nothing was changing. Time was in fast-forward (and still is sometimes). A week felt like 3 days. A year felt like 4-5 months. I would sometimes lose track of what year it was, and even worse, my age. I'm serious.

I was, and still am, stuck in a rut. I want to break loose, but I know I need help to do that. I would love nothing more than to just fight my way through it with WILLPOWER and POSITIVITY and HAPPY THOUGHTS, but that's just not realistic for me. Most people in the world don't *act* better until they *feel* better, and I'm one of those people. I'm not one of those magical morning persons who cartwheels out of bed in the morning, yawns, stretches and greets the birds with a song and a jig. I'm not one of those people who can say "well isn't life just grand!" and run around frollicking through the day with invincible optimism. Can't do it, I'm not an alien, lol.

I'm already asking a lot from you guys in wanting you to read all of this, but I'm also looking for guidance, advice, what worked for you, what didn't. Doctors, medicines, remedies, anything. I'm totally lost here. I actually broke down in tears earlier tonight.. something I only do like 1-2 times PER YEAR...

I was just thinking how I felt like I needed to go to rehab or something. And that's when it hit me... I pictured the kinds of people who are in any rehab of some sort, and how they can't do it alone, and how they really need a lot of help and support. And it made me feel like I'm in the same boat... It made me realize that maybe, just maybe, I'm in over my head with this condition like other people are with theirs. I want to be strong and tackle this on my own, grab life by the horns, but even though I've said "I can't do this alone", tonight was the very first time that I truly FELT that way, and it really affected me.

I'm sorry again for writing so much. I'm not a guy who ever gets to vent or talk about anything like this, so it's all just pouring out of me. Any thoughts and ideas and experiences you guys can share would be most appreciated. I'm dying to know what may have worked for some of you, and I'd like to know your personal opinions on if you think my condition is Fibro or something else. I will still see a specialist anyway, but knowledge is power, and I just want to absorb as much as I can before going into the doctor's office again. Maybe you guys know better ways to describe what I'm feeling to a doctor so they can better understand and help me.

Either way, I thank you for your time. wink
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scaredofswine
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Posted 7/18/2011 11:57 PM (GMT -8)
Hey, i am sorry i didn't take the time to read all of what you wrote, but what caught my eye the most is your leg pain, i been going through it also for about 6 years, im a 32 year old male, my life basically came to a halt, i was diagnosed fibromyalgia, also have ddd in my back and arthritis in my back and 2 bulging disks in neck and back, my legs ache so bad it is ridiculous, i have 3 children and i'm depressed that i acan't be the dad that i'd like to be, this condition robbed my life from me, i advise you try taking a hot bath for the leg pain it helps my legs but it doesn't help too long, if your doc prescibes you vicodin, that has helped me just 1 vicodin es a day really helped even sometime 8 hours a day and i just put up with the pain the rest of the days, now they won't prescribe it anymore and it is so frustrating, it seems they only want to give it to the drug addicts and not the real people who need it and do not abuse it, anyhow i wish you nothing but the best and welcome you to healing well, theres alot of great people here that would help you, take care.
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mscrowbar
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Posted 7/19/2011 8:08 AM (GMT -8)
That was a very long but well written story of your life with pain. Most of us on this forum can and probably do relate to you and most of what you have written. Lots of dr visits, blood work, tests, non believers, fatigue (no-pure exhaustion) and so on.

It took less than 2 years to get the diagnosis of fibromyalgia and about 4 to get the diagnosis of Rheumatoid arthritis with secondary sjogrens. I felt all along I had sjogrens but the RA was a shocker. Right now I am so exhausted that I feel like I just cannot function let alone think and I am right smack in the middle of my work day.

I, like you, could write a book on all the things I have gone thru to get the diagnosis and to over come, and/or live with it. It seemed like every time I accepted the diagnosis of fibro something else would be wrong. Iron def., vitamin D def, B-12 def and a few others. I also had my thyroid taken out and radiation therapy because it was cancerous. I have had my share and really could go on and on. But that won't help you or me either come to think of it.

The only thing I could suggest is getting a full metabolic work up. I did notice that you were low in vit D so you may have already had that but just in case....I know for a fact that b-12 def can have some dibilitating symptoms.

I does sound to me that you could have fibro but there are so many things that could/should be ruled out before anyone can come to that conclusion.

Anyway I would like to welcome you to healing well and please, keep in touch. I really enjoy your style of writing. Maybe that could be the start of a career for you. You could do it in your own home at your convenience. what do you think of that??
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CynthiaBlue
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Posted 7/19/2011 8:52 AM (GMT -8)
I'm undiagnosed myself... going to various doctors now to try to figure out what's going on with the muscle pain and the fatigue etc. I just wanted to say that I can relate to the difficulty you have of describing what you are feeling. I seem to be that way too. Especially the dizziness/brain fog thing... I'm not really sure how to describe it. It started as vertigo, but now the world just kinda seems unsteady a lot of the time. I need better words to describe what I'm feeling.

I hope the doctors give you some help.
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Dotkom
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Posted 7/19/2011 9:08 AM (GMT -8)
Hey Guy!

I'm Dot. :-) Welcome. I'm 'new' to this particular site myself. Just joined a week or so ago, but I'm an old hand with fibro. First of all, I want to tell you that I read every word of your post. Well done! I think you expressed yourself very well & made very clear your symptoms & concerns. Alot of what you wrote is very familiar to me, but not all. Frankly, I think the single most important thing is for you to get a DEFINITIVE diagnosis. I personally don't suffer with the fatigue aspect of fibro as much as most. The pain is always my biggest worry. But on those days when I'd pay for a nap I say outloud that I'd rather have the pain than the fatigue b/c I can take a pill for pain & within half an hour find at least some relief. Exhaustion isn't as easily dealt with. So I can sympathize with you.

The thing that really stood out to me is the incongruence between your obvious muscle strength and your inability to move due to exhaustion. Clearly your muscles themselves are fine, or so it would seem. My husband had similar weakness when his heart was in bad shape. His arms & legs were OK, but the blockages in his arteries caused a lack of necessary oxygen to his limbs. Has heart trouble been definitely ruled out? I'm no doctor & I hope I'm not going too far. But most folks I know with fibro can't play football, not even on their best day. LOL It could be any of dozens of things, but there is difinitely something going on. You MUST keep searching until your get a proper diagnosis. I know how very difficult that can be. It took me years to get one & then years more to get the appropriate treatment. It isn't fair, it isn't right, but that's reality for alot of us. Then on top of all that, you just don't have the energy to get up & go. Plus, people make assumptions because of your age, right? Like young folks can't possible be sick. How foolish! Don't quit. You need help. I hope you find it soon. For me, the pain clinic was a life saver, but go wherever you need to go; see whoever you need to see. Find out for SURE what's going on there. Best wishes to you!
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Fatigue+Pain=Yay!
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Posted 7/19/2011 2:48 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for your support guys! And I applaud anyone who read all that. Man I don't know what I was thinking, got caught up in the moment I guess. =P

I've noticed a number of you seem to have several different diagnoses on top of Fibro, that's gotta be rough. about the leg pain: It got pretty bad a few times recently in the morning that I just had to take something for it. Sometimes it's hard to tell but a few advil seemed to help a bit.

I can't help but think of Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb". I wouldn't mind feeling like that when it comes to the pain and discomfort. Maybe the fatigue would be there, but something's better than nothing, so I think I should look into what different things I can take.

Are you guys getting diagnosed with Fibro from specialists or primary care or something else?

I haven't met a primary yet who would go out on a whim to diagnose Fibro, they all seem too uncertain and bashful. I'll have to look into Rheumatoid Arthritis, I think I may have in the past but who knows. Unfortunately all the doctor trips seem to blend together after a while. My doctor said that it could take up to half a year to start noticing the benefits of vitamin D and B that I'm taking. It's been that long and I don't notice anything. I'm sure that I need them because due to fatigue and what I call "a motivational deficiency" I don't always eat 3 square meals a day, and I get hungry so easily and often (even after meals) but half the time I don't make anything.

Hehe thanks, I don't know if I could ever be a writer or columnist but I do have a knack for writing up a storm. I've sometimes seen it as a negative because when trying to communicate something it's often best to get to the point. But talking is so much funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. =P

My Heart: I've never had blood pressure or cholesterol problems, but 5 or so years ago I did go to the hospital for an uncomfortable irregular heartbeat that had been bothering me for a month or two at that point. I would be laying down trying to sleep and my heart would start racing, and/or it would do like a "triple-beat" and it was a very violating feeling to have in your heart. I was really scared, and the night that it got the worst I said I wanted to go to the hospital, and my back was actually sore directly behind where my heart is. -- This is the only time I've been to the hospital since I was born, other than getting a nosebleed treated one time with a codderization(sp).

They ran a battery of tests on me, and aside from a little irregular heartbeat everything came out negative. I wore a heart monitor for a month where I'd push the button if I was feeling something different in my heart. Those results came out negative. Not too long after it went away and never came back, but of course I'm scared that it might or that it could be a sign of something else with my heart.

The sports thing: It's definitely a contradiction, but in a way also shows that something isn't right with me. In school, by the end of the day, my head was down on my desk and my body felt like mortar shells were going off inside. I was miserable. But I had football practice every day after school. I would drag myself to the locker room and suit up, and go and do my thing. I don't know why it, at the time, didn't prevent me from being athletic.

I remember being scared that my condition would some day leak into my athletic ability, and make me slower and weaker on the field... Then one day, it did. In football I had bounced out to the outside and was well on my way to an 80yd touchdown, with my speed I wasn't worried about the three defenders running parallel to me... They caught me... I couldn't believe it. I knew right away that I had got slower. I was beside myself.

The past several years I haven't felt able to play sports, but at the time it was strange trying to explain how I could be a skilled athlete while also being too exhausted to maintain normal attendance at school. I felt like I was being called a liar because of conflicting information. But I stood my ground. I knew what I felt, and I knew I could play sports at the time, and anyone who couldn't understand that, well too bad for them.

You're absolutely right about the age assumptions. Here I am, a young, athletically-shaped guy. I'm not in a wheelchair or on crutches. I don't limp around. I don't require assistance getting to my feet. I don't carry myself in a very depressed, pessimistic way (I'm actually quite positive and pleasant despite what my condition has done to my life). I don't look like a narcoleptic falling asleep from exhaustion, and worst of all I don't have a diagnosis. I look like a liar constantly, but that's nothing new.

I feel like getting this diagnosis, whatever it is, would mean the world to me, even if I didn't get (the right) treatment. I would be justified. I wouldn't be a liar anymore. I would finally have an answer to all/most of my questions. I've imagined that day so many times in the past. I wonder if maybe getting the diagnosis could give me motivation to do a little more, and be a little more. But you're right, I can't hope for any treatment or understanding without a diagnosis. That HAS to be my #1 priority.

I know there is no cure for Fibro, and often no cure for conditions that resemble it, but what treatments exist that have helped you guys? And like I asked above, who most commonly diagnoses Fibro for you (and in general)?

I've written another lovely novel for you guys, again, I'm sorry lol. Thank you all so much for your kind support and welcome. I really do appreciate this. Like I said before, I've never come to a community about this before and I find myself kind of anxious with my heart on my sleeve. I really appreciate the time, thoughts and advice though, thank you so much!

The upside is with each post my responses get shorter and shorter! *grin*

~Mike
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Posted 7/19/2011 3:43 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Mike,

I have to be honest and say I didn't make it through your first post, but I will go back and finish. I just wanted to welcome you to the forum. And say I am glad that you found us. For the pain in my neck and shoulders, I often use what is called a bed buddy. It is a fabric tube full of rice that you heat in the microwave and put in a towel and wrap around your neck. The moist heat loosens the muscles and that helps with the pain.

I walk a lot and that helps. I can't walk like I use to, but I try to keep moving around. Moving always helps, no matter what. If you don't you will get stiff and be in more pain.

I do take pain meds and meds for fatigue. That is the only way that I can handle it. But if you can make it without, that is even better.

I hope that you feel better soon.

Hugs, Karen
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Posted 7/20/2011 12:28 PM (GMT -8)
Mike, I read your entire first post and really enjoyed it. You write well and made all the necessary spacings so that we with bad eyes could read it and not get lost. (I was the one that suggested that you take up some kind of writing - I know you would be good at it)

As far as a diagnosis -- I see/saw a rheumatologist. I have been with him for about 4 years and wouldn't dream of leaving. He has been really good to me and never hurries our time together and always explains the what and why of his med regimines (?). He always felt that I was dealing with some sort of auto immune issue but at the time all the pieces didn't fit. So, I got the fibro diagnosis and meds to help with the aches and pains and the insomnia. He treated the symptoms not just the condition. (I do have ALL the tender points so fibro it is)

Just recently all the pieces fell together and he finally gave me the diagnosis of RA and Sjogrens. This diagnosis also came with some new meds to try. The prednisone really helped so I am taking that to help till the new med (plaquinel) kicks in. He said it usually takes about 6 months to see the full benefits of it.

Its sad really. For several years I was dealing with fibro. I knew it would make me feel pain but I knew that that pain was not doing anything destructive to my body. Now, sadly, with the RA, that is not true. Plaquinel is supposed to help slow that progression but I don't really know how much or for how long. I am very new to this disease so I have a lot to learn.

As for the meds? For some I think its a personal choice. After all fibro does no real damage - at least that is what we are told. But, pain is pain and how we treat it is what makes all the difference. I personally couldn't get enough relief from over the counters. I take tramadol and was on mobic (one a day slow release of ibuprophen) but have since added prednisone and plaquenil.
I also have a malabsorption issue so I take a whole slew of vitamins, minerals, suppliments and b-12 shots. Many others here also take these because, for some reason, many with fibro are showing to be deficient in these as well.

I know, no matter what, I need to keep moving. It doesn't matter if its fatigue or pain, I get out of bed and do the best I can to get through my day and even enjoy it while I'm at it. Sometimes though, like right now, the fatigue is extreme and just working is about all I can do. The chores wait till another day.

I hope everyone living on the east coast is enjoying the ac because it is awful outside, hot and humid.
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Posted 7/21/2011 6:21 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Mike,

I think it can be very hard when you are younger to get a correct diagnosis. My doctors always assumed I was overdoing it with sports, or it was depression, or I was getting over the flu. Like you, I stopped pursuing a diagnosis for a while. I suspected I had fibro beginning when I was 24 or 25, but didn't get diagnosed until I was 30. I was diagnosed by a orthopedic doctor of all things, after my PCP referred me to him for hip bursitis. I went in and said "I am here for hip pain, but I think I am in the wrong place because my feet, knees, hips, back, and shoulders all hurt". And he, of all people, did the tender point test and said "I don't ever make this Dx so we'll refer you to someone to confirm it". All in all, a surreal ending to a very long medical search.

I am now trying my first medication for fibromyalgia (gabapentin). I am not sure if it is helping or not. I have found several self-help things to help quite a bit. I too am Vitamin D deficient, and am taking Vitamin D3, a B complex, and magnesium. One thing that helped a lot was making sure I wear shoes that correct the way my feet roll inward. I find I have to take extra good care of my body so that minor injuries/issues don't turn into major pain flares. I try to get moderate exercise, which has been hard for me as a former athlete, as I want to go all out and do what I used to do, but I can't handle it anymore.

I also can relate to your issues with past jobs and wanting to work but not feeling like you can. I had a period in my early 20s where I was disabled due to mental health concerns, and it was very difficult to re-enter the job market. I would suggest working on some self-help and medical stuff so you feel better first, and then addressing how it makes most sense for you to return to work. Have considered applying for Social Security Disability (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI)? You may not have enough work credits for SSDI, but you might qualify for either or both. It also would help you to access services like vocational rehab to help you re-enter the work force.

I hope you stick around the forum, this is a very supportive group with a lot of collective experience in living with fibromyalgia, fatigue, and related conditions.
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@getting by: Despite being an athlete I've always had a very poor, sub-par range of flexibility with lots of general stiffness all over. I remember when I was 18 I was in a physical rehab place (but for some reason I only went 2 times) where they tested my flexibility and helped me stretch. They measured my flexibility in some parts and intended to do so each visit to chart my progress.

When I lay flat on my back, my knees are several inches off the table, which they thought was odd. I can't for the life of me stick my legs out straight, I have a very noticeable bend at my knees. Very obtuse! And the lady said my hips were so stiff they were like cement. I don't know if any of this has to do with my condition.

As for your rice pillows, lol, never heard of them before, sounds neat though. Lately I've fallen in love with sleeping with a pair of pillows between my legs as my core feels very uncomfortable with my knees together. I get this strong cooling sensation as if my body is breathing internally and it really helps me relax. The pain in my legs is still there, but like I said before it's that combo of comfort and discomfort that's usually enough to let me fall asleep. I'll have to look into the rice warmers though.

I want to exercise so much, I really do. I went swimming recently and was sore for at least 4 days after. Another day I was just going lots of places and played 18 holes of mini-golf and after a day on my feet I was sore for 3 days. Pathetic.

I remember doing a 3 mile walk for MS a couple years ago and I just wanted lay down right there on the road, and we weren't even halfway there yet. It was too much to handle. Meanwhile I looked all around and there were people in their 40's, 50's and 60's and very overweight people just chugging along with no problems at all, many of them were jogging too. I always see these kinds of people when I'm driving and it makes me so jealous that they can do that so well.

It made me very self-conscious about my condition, I felt very pathetic. All of these people not even close to their prime age or weight were doing great and actually enjoying themselves. I do understand you can be in good shape regardless of age or weight, but it was embarrassing for me.

I just watched a youtube video of a doctor talking about Fibromyalgia and some similar things. He said you could be diagnosed with Fibro AND Chronic Fatigue at the same time. I had always wondered about that, because doctors always got confused with me because of the pain and the fatigue, yet I didn't suffer from any insomnia. I feel like having both these symptoms only hurts my likelihood for a diagnosis.

I've had the Fibro trigger points done 2-3 times. I felt some pain once, but I figured that's just from being poked and prodded and any normal person would feel the same discomfort. The other times I didn't really notice anything. I feel like I have a high threshold for pain, I've always been one tough SOB in football, and I didn't even mention the pain to a doctor until my 20's because I was so used to it. I also think that if I don't have a response to the trigger points then I'll never get diagnosed with Fibro. But I'm not about to lie to a doctor and scream "Ow that hurts!" to get a diagnosis that might be wrong.

But on the flip side my legs are always in pain, (they are really, really bad today. pain reliever didn't do anything) therefore maybe I wouldn't feel pain if pain was already there? If you have a bad toothache and I push on it, well it's going to hurt either way isn't it? I dunno.

I feel like the mornings are the crucial time for me. If I can get enough energy FOR the morning and get the ball rolling for the day I might have enough momentum to make it through the entire day. The problem is I'm at my worst in the morning (and first 6 hours ish), and when I wake up like that, I can't just go jumping out of my bed and running around the house for pills and water because I'm a zombie. skull That's why I'm skeptical about many treatments that require me to do something first before reaping the benefits. I need an improvement for the moment I wake up.

And yes mscrowbar I woke up that morning sweating my butt off, lol. I had a little more motivation to get up that day to crank up the AC, but still need some more! You guys are really helping a lot, I've written notes from virtually every one of you so far!

@Heather - Yeah I do feel like my age works against me, but despite that I've spent 14 years (now over half my life) with this condition. That's a kooky way to get a diagnosis but I'm very glad to hear it worked out for you. I looked into SSDI benefits at first, one or the other, but saw my credits were still far too low for assistance. Our country doesn't allow for young people to be sick. If I could qualify for one that would be great, but I feel like without a diagnosis I'm up the creek without a paddle.

I have a Safelink phone which is a free cell phone service that gives me 80 rollover minutes a month, which is great. My girlfriend wants to help me get food stamps too. I technically don't qualify but she said the family downstairs from her regularly has 4 people there that each get $200 a month in stamps, so she's encouraging me to just say what it takes to get them (apparently it's easy). Two people that live there have the stamps, and another two people who practically live there have them as well.

For now I've been trying to go to bed early so I can get this morning testosterone blood test done and over with, but I've been totally obliterated the past couple months, more than usual. I got my hopes up at first with the testosterone, I thought "Maybe this is it. Maybe I have my answer", but I'm thinking it's just a false positive, if it were just fatigue maybe, but there's too much pain for me to think it's as simple as one deficiency.

So after that I'm going to see RA and Fibro specialists pronto. I will definitely write back and keep you guys updated. And as always thanks for your support, it really means a lot to me. smilewinkgrin

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Posted 7/21/2011 9:19 PM (GMT -8)
Hello!

I read your whole story I can tell you that I absolutley admire your wisdom and strength. This is very difficult to go through. I am very much like you in that I am the person to be happy and admire everything life has for me, even a good meal or a smile and kiss from my nieces will make me happy but when you feel so sick it seems very hard but I try and think positive and I say to myself " I know I am not dying (eventhough i feel like it) I am alive and eventhough I cant do much I will do my best today!"

All of your symptoms definitely seem indicative of something like Fibro and CFS. I was just wondering if you have seeked any kind of treatment. Have you tried going the alternative route? I am going to see a doctor tommorow who is very knowledgeable and i will mention what you have said here.

I worked as a case manger for a social services agency and wanted to give you some advice on foodstamps. You shoud apply ASAP and the response will take a month or so. What state do you live in? I ask because some states have the option of filling it out online.

Good luck and let me know if you have any ? regarding goverment assistance.
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Posted 7/21/2011 11:47 PM (GMT -8)
Dude, I feel you in so many ways. I'll finish reading your posts more when I'm less fogged, but your story sounds very, very much like mine. I'm long winded too, but not on this post...
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Thanks a lot Dazey I really appreciate it! I live in Massachusetts. So far any attempted treatment has all been shots in the dark, simple guesses on the doctor's part.

I don't want to have to lie to get food stamps, I'm not one to really abuse the system, but I'm getting kind of desperate. As it stands I looked online and I don't think I qualify because I have no income, and possibly some other things. Maybe I just answered the questions wrong though. Also, am I right in assuming that SSI would need an official black and white diagnosis before doing anything for me?

I've been out of work for a very long time, so of course it would be a miracle if I could get something retroactive, but that's doubtful, even though I would have qualified back then if I had the information/diagnosis earlier. I'm not sure that's exactly how the system works though, I know collecting unemployment often does.
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Posted 7/22/2011 7:27 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Mike, and well written! You should start a blog :)
I have read a big chunck of what u've written really do like the style you take on in writing, its interesting to read about you :)
I'm like you 27 but have not experienced the symptoms for as long a time as you, i think i'm starting to close in on the 2 year mark, but i can not exactly pin-point one exact date or period in wich it started. I know i fell down a couple of meters in a football stadium in may 2009 landing badly on my back (i was fine by the way after that, at least then i was) and around 3 months later i guess thats when i started noticing that not all was well in my kingdom....
i've started seeing doctors just recently so i don't have as much experience as you do when it comes to diagnoses-meds-refusals from docs-and so on :)
As i read i see u have really been pulled through the works....
I'm sorry to hear that u are getting such bad comments i know very well how it feels to not be believed.
I have only one person in my family that "get's it" and thats my mum and thats ONLY because she also suffers from Fibro. Everyone else looks at me, or should i say us, like we are making elephants out of mosquitos and thats it's all not really THAT bad.....
But in reality it is innit? We are in pain on a daily basis, we are tired pretty much all the time and sometimes our head/brain wonders off without us (Fog time!) and none of it is easy.

I hope one day our illness is put more in the spotlight and iç hope then people will understand better.

In your specific case i can only say: see another doc, get some other tests done...Trust me i know this is often the last thing we want, again more tests and more doctors (that frankly: talk out of their asses half the time) we'vve all been there before and none of us look forward to it, buit sad enough they can opnly find the problem by excluding all others.

Anyway for now i wish you a very warm welcome to this forum, it's a pretty cool place and i hope to hear from you here soon.

Nice meeting you

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Posted 7/22/2011 3:07 PM (GMT -8)
You know, come to think of it. Even though I think I'm sharp as a tack, the past cluster of years I'm extremely forgetful. Yes I know men in general seem to develop this problem lol, but I mean even in the short term where I'll hear dinner is ready, I'll forget within a minute and have to be reminded. At first I thought I may have always been like this, but I haven't.

There might be a few more examples of fogginess that I've overlooked but maybe that's just the tip of the iceberg for me in the fog department.
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Posted 7/22/2011 4:18 PM (GMT -8)

Hey Mike,

Man, it’s almost like reading my own biography. You are not crazy. You have a crappy illness (FM or not) that drains you. Even though you have had it longer, it seems I may have a better handle on it than you do right now. That said, I still experience what you do. I’m in the middle of a nasty flare up as I write this, and it has been going on for a week now. I had been without major flare up for almost a month before that. Overall, awesome for FM, but darn I still feel pathetic.  

Same leg pain. Same issues of strength and severe weakness at the same time. Chiropractor and especially massage also helps me. Same difficulty in explaining the pain, even though I’ve lived with it for nine years. It’s like you crawled inside my brain.

Low testosterone too! Get that test done and then get back on the patches man! I give myself a shot once a week and without it I would be back where you are for sure. I “woke up” after a month or 2 of treatment, and it really helped me hang on to an exercise routine, which helps a LOT. (benefits from exercise take a while though, but it does help, as counterintuitive as it seems)  

about your sleep study, do you recall if you had good stage 3 and 4 (REM or deep stage) numbers? 2 hours a night or more is ideal. Before CPAP treatment I got less than 15 min a night of actual recuperative sleep (deep stage), even though I slept for 11 hours. If you can get another study, do it. But, I would wait until you are back on testosterone. Testosterone can increase sleep apnea, so might as well be on it for the test. The patches may make you feel better, but cause apnea and set your success back. Even if your numbers were border line, I would encourage the patches to get your numbers to the higher end of normal.  

It’s a special kind of hell to hurt every day, to be an otherwise very capable person, and be locked into your furniture to avoid further pain or because you can’t muster the energy. Even more irritating is when people don’t get it. How could they really? Your wincing, facial expressions and other cues of pain subside after a few months, and so you “look” fine. There have been times I wish I could give someone the experience of this pain, just for a moment, and I’m certain many would throw up just from the trauma of being hit with that much global pain.

Also really tough to explain how I can ride a mountain bike, and a week later be laid up for no reason. There is a barrier to push past, and I believe the testosterone helps. You were able to handle more in high school because your hormones were more active. That’s just a theory based on my experiences.

Unexplained heart issues can also be sleep related.

Other things to test for: Lupus, Lyme disease, hemochromatosis

FM is a diagnosis of elimination. I was on SSD for 5 years before I was diagnosed, and it was my improvement that lead to the diagnosis from a Neurologist at Barrow in Phx AZ. They reattached a nearly severed head from a motorcycle accident, so they are pretty good. My triggers were not as active either, but they were there. It is common for men not to be as tender as women, making the trigger point diagnosis less accurate for men. It was my entire history, much like yours, that lead to the diagnosis. And by the way, I hate the diagnosis, but everything fits. It’s rare with men, and some have said it can be worse for men to deal with.

Good article for guys: http://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/features/how-fibromyalgia-affects-men

I bring an abbreviated list of symptoms with me to the Doctors apt to make sure I don't forget anything. The fibro fog can really screw up communication between you and your MD. If they don’t take the time to read through a page or two, find another doctor.  

As you can see I have a couple of issues, but really they are all FM related. Speaking of which, you should be able to qualify for SSI. FM is not specifically listed, but the side effects of FM, depression and anxiety, are listed. I can assure you that if you are not healthy, you are not mentally healthy. No, you aren’t "just depressed", this is physical and anyone with FM knows that. But the physical issues cause the mental issues. See a psychologist, tell them the whole story. It would be good to get a mental tune up anyway. It’s the same reason you came here. Try to find someone who specializes in chronic pain. Personally, the pain makes me a pretty angry guy, and it should be no surprise. I have to work very hard at not hurting, and I would like nothing more than to return to work and make good money again. This is a hard thing to accept.

Seeing a psychologist will also help your case for SSI. An evaluation will be good, and be raw. Having pain everyday sucks, and the way people treat you is hard to deal with. Let your issues out (we have plenty), it really helps.  

Diet is also a big thing for me. Avoid sugar, but eliminate High Fructose Corn Syrup and hydrogenated oil. It’s in everything. I lost 80 pounds, 60 pounds of which was just eliminating those 2 things. Not that weight is your issue, but as close to raw and natural food you can get, the better. Become a cook and control what you eat.

Here is the thing. To get to a better place you have to do a lot of things. There is no “quick fix”. You have to build a foundation carefully and maintain it. It’s a lot of work. I screw up my diet, flare up. I take on too many obligations, flare up. Stressful event, stop exercising, etc, flare up. It’s tricky but doable to find a balance. Being able to be a little normal every now and then is a great reward, even if I pay for it for a few days afterword. I went to the redwoods for a camping trip and had a great time, but I’m still paying for it today. I will do it again, but I will change a few things. I packed too many things into that trip.

Anyway, gotta stop writing now, getting twisted up. Good luck man and feel free to check my webpage in my signature, it might help you. I have lots to add but again, I have to pace myself.  

   

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Hey FMGuy, awesome to hear from yet another person who's been in a similar situation as mine. Sometimes all you can hope for in this world is for someone who understands, ya know? Very interesting with the testosterone... The endo doctor I saw said my own doctor may have jumped the gun on my blood test, so to be sure I need to go for a morning blood test for testosterone level, which apparently gives a more accurate baseline. She told me to stop taking the patches for now so, obviously, I could get an accurate reading.

My sleep study results weren't anything all the irregular, I don't think. There may have been a "little something" but nothing that they felt was worthwhile to bring me back in, apparently.

Amidst my flurry of text I somehow forgot to mention that another sleep study was also on my list of things to do. My mother has recently been treated for sleep apnea (gasping breaths and many small incidents of her breathing stopping). She uses a mask and machine (CPAP?) and she said she's 1000 times better, much more energy, darkness on her face cleared up within days. She's always running around so much now and her sleep schedule seems great (she used to get up in the middle of the night a lot, as well as night snacking). Her improvement definitely made me ponder if I could improve my sleep somehow to see similar results in energy. Long story short, I may have sleep apnea and not even know it. My gf says I don't snore, but can't be too sure.

My other outlook on my condition is that "feeling better is feeling better". That's where the sleep study, chiropractics, exercise and other things come into play with extra value. The best night's sleep I ever remember was at a little mom & pop hotel. The bed was AMAZING. I was the last one asleep and first one awake in the room, and I was astounded how I felt. It could have been a coincidence and a very rare "good day", but the chances of that were slim.

That night, in part, led me to look into getting a better bed, but they can easily get pretty pricy, and every mattress in the world under $1000 seems to have mixed reviews. It'll have to wait for now.
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Posted 7/22/2011 10:03 PM (GMT -8)
Sam's club has a memory foam bed that worked out very well for me. I use a topper too, but it's a really good bed. We have a king sized bed that was $500. 2 year return policy too, so it's worth the $35 membership. Here is the link to the king sized, but you could select whatever size you need. I think the queen is $400. Check out the reviews. It's a steal for a decent all memory foam bed. I just used the box spring I have from a prev mattress, works great.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=181751&navAction=push

Sleep is super important. I use a CPAP too. Really helps.
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Posted 7/23/2011 6:17 PM (GMT -8)

Fatigue+Pain=Yay! said...
I mean even in the short term where I'll hear dinner is ready, I'll forget within a minute and have to be reminded.

I just had to say, my hubby got extremely frustrated when the hot dogs I had been bugging him to make for me were finally done and he still had to tell me 4 times that dinner was ready! I was trying very hard to muddle through some logic problems (something I have always enjoyed doing and now I am finding them very frustrating) and was focusing on them so much I just kept forgetting to eat and forgetting that food was ready immediately after he would tell me, even though I could smell it!
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Update: I was finally able to get up in the morning for once (645am) and got my blood test done for testosterone levels (and a couple other related things I think). I felt rested as in I slept decently, but my legs were hurting probably as bad as they've been the past month or two. In a reverse-psychology way the anger and frustration I felt with that pain made me want to go to the doctor asap.

I'm worried that because my sleep schedule has been so bad lately, that getting my blood drawn the first morning waking up at a human hour might not give an accurate "morning testosterone level", which is needed for my results. I slept a normal amount of hours, but I just don't know how testosterone works. I figure I can always go again after I have a more established sleep cycle if I really want.

I'm going to try and look into SSI this week, I have some family members or are or were on it. A queen-sized memory foam sounds heavenly. The price is tough right now (and I have no established credit), but everyone I've ever heard speak highly of their bed always uses the term "investment" which I find interesting, and shows the support people have for their purchase when they find the right one.

@Moonsinger - That's frustrating! But it's nice to know I'm not the only one who's been forgetting things as soon as I hear them, and often with the same thing!

Speaking of food, I pretty much haven't been eating. If you knew me in person you'd probably notice I'm always hungry, or 30 minutes away from being hungry. This is on days that I'm eating. The past 2-4 weeks though I'm just not getting anything to eat, aside from a bowl of cereal most of the time, though didn't eat anything today. Cereal's nice because it's quick and easy and it's food and a drink all in one.

It would be one thing if my condition only affected the things I didn't want to do anyway, but it takes away the things I like too, like working, sports, exercise, and FOOD. I love food, but I've lost 6 lbs in the past few weeks, and I know it's not good to starve yourself. But again in a weird turn of psychological events, seeing my stomach visibly smaller (it's really noticeable to me) has been making me want to work out and keep it shrinking while bulking up my arms, shoulders and chest like I was a year or two ago.

But things aren't all that bad, I finally got that blood test out of the way so I can pursue some other doctors and tests now. Anyone have suggestions as to which to prioritize? As it stands I want to see a Fibro specialist first.

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Posted 7/26/2011 9:36 PM (GMT -8)
Prioritizing. Tough to do with FM. Good neurologist first I would think since no matter what you have, it is a condition involving the nervous system. Find one in your area that you can read reviews on. You would help the MD, especially given your long history and wide range of symptoms, to document everything. Much over 5 pages and they might get lost, so short yet detailed is ideal. He/she may also order a sleep study, or anything else related to what is going on. If they order an EMG, don't be afraid to cut the test short if it is too painful. Mine sucked bad.

Hormone levels are time of day based regardless of sleep schedule, generally speaking. Your T levels will generally be their highest in the morning, so don't sweat that.

Carbs and sugars are probably not great for you, so cereal may not be ideal. A broccoli omelet cooked in a little olive oil would be good, and maybe some fruit. I'm looking into a diet that focuses on bone broth soups, ie soups with bones cooked in them. I hear it is good for FM patients.

Let me know how the Testosterone test turns out.

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