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almost medfree
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Posted 7/19/2012 11:10 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Everyone,

I went to a new eye doctor this morning and thanks once again to my good diet and my taking of supplements, I don't need new lenses. It's been 3 years.

The reason for this thread is I wanted to ask you if you've been told the skin cells on the outer part of your eyes are depleted. I guess that can come from fibro just like sjorgens can. Sjorgens is a dry eye condition.  I have that too. I asked what the worse is that can happen in having depleted skin cells on the outer part of the eye and she told me a person can more easily get an eye infection.

I now have to clense my eyelids everyday and use a better over the counter eye drop. I was using artificial tears and I guess there are eye drops that are better than that. I'm glad I didn't use Visine. She said that wouldn't be good for the dry eye condition because it contains a chemical. I also have to hold a wet warm compress to my eyes twice a day. The good news is this condition can improve. Yeah!

Has anyone else been told to do these things? If so, do you remove your eye makeup with the lid cleaner wipes? (I've been using Maybelline eye makeup remover all these years.) Do you use the lid soap (less expensive) rather than the wipes? The pharmacist told me to use the lid soap on my fingertips?

So much to learn, but I always remind myself learning is a good thing.

Thanks for listening.


Fibromyalgia, CFS, multiple chemical sensivity, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, ADD, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, headaches. The only medication I take is ibuprofen at night to sleep along with my supplements for sleeping. I am on a regiment of different supplements, I eat very nutritiously, and ever since my injury years ago I have been doing prescribed stretches x2 daily.

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bwfm
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Posted 7/19/2012 2:00 PM (GMT -7)
Did the eye doctor call your condition blepharitis? I have chronic blepharitis because of ocular rosacea (rosacea in the eye), and I am supposed to do the compress thing every morning and then hold my eye on the outside so I can use the washcloth to wipe my eyelids from the inside to the outside; I also use Refresh eye drops up to 4 times a day. When the blepharitis flares up, I have to use Lotemax and Tobramycin eye drops to get rid of the infection/inflammation. I have quit wearing eye makeup because of this condition.
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almost medfree
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Posted 7/19/2012 3:28 PM (GMT -7)
Thanks for your posts.

I'm seeing her again next week and I'll ask her what the condition is called and if I should discontinue wearing eye makeup. Thanks! I'll let you know. So it sounds like you already have an infection. She didn't tell me I had one but perhaps you just have the inflammation? What causes this I wonder.

She gave me a couple free samples and one is refresh. I'm trying the other tomorrow. These are artificial tear drops that can do more than what I've been using which is the Artificial Tears.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, multiple chemical sensivity, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, ADD, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, headaches. The only medication I take is ibuprofen at night to sleep along with my supplements for sleeping. I am on a regiment of different supplements, I eat very nutritiously, and ever since my injury years ago I have been doing prescribed stretches x2 daily.
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Posted 7/20/2012 5:53 AM (GMT -7)
I don't have dry eye but I do take Occuvite...a vitamin for my eyes.  Also, I buy water soluable eye make-up and it rinses off in the shower.  I just put water on my face and use my fingers to run across my lashes.  I don't use soap around my eyes at all.

 

My dog developed dry eye and the vet said it was caused from soap getting in her eyes when she was groomed one time!  I don't know how true that is but I know a good groomer will put an ointment in the dog's eyes before bathing so if soap gets in, it won't be absorbed.  So this is another reason I don't use soap around my eyes.

 

Sherrine


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Posted 7/20/2012 6:10 AM (GMT -7)
I have Dry Eye syndrome. My doc told me to use baby shampoo to wash my eyes. No make up remover wipes as they can irritate the eyes. I used Refresh but eventually I had to move on to a prescription eye drop - Restasis. I am no longer on it, or any eye drops due to a medication I am now taking that takes care of all my auto immune reactions (Remicade). Btw, when I used the lid wipes it seemed to work better than the soap.
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Posted 7/20/2012 8:34 AM (GMT -7)
I can't say I've heard of eye conditions being specifically related to Fibro...but as mentioned by you and others....many people have dual diagnosis with other types of issues like Sjogrens.

I have just regular dry eyes as I wear contacts and we have fans going in our home all the time to help save on the A/C...

So I have Visine for contacts everywhere from my purse, side table, car, next to my computer...etc.

I've also been lucky in that I haven't had to change my prescription since I started wearing them about 15 years!

Again..I don't think it's a direct correlation to Fibro...but it sounds like you have good Dr. looking out for you...
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Posted 7/20/2012 9:02 AM (GMT -7)
My eye doctor Recommended Systane for dryness, and an overnight eyegel for severe dryness. He also put plugs in my tear ducts to increase natural liquid.
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Posted 7/29/2012 7:02 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Everyone,

An update, I went to the optomitrist again and she diagnosed me with: meibomian gland dysfunction. It's a dry eye condition that sounds as if it's worse than sjorgens.

This condition can improve so I'll be using the lid wipes, the warm wet compress twice a day, the lubricant drops (not visine that contains a chemical my orthodontist said), and making sure I do these procedures before I apply makeup and after I take it off. I'm going to try to not wear eye makeup so often. Only for special occasions.

Thanks for sharing everyone.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, multiple chemical sensivity, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, ADD, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, headaches. The only medication I take is ibuprofen at night to sleep along with my supplements for sleeping. I am on a regiment of different supplements, I eat very nutritiously, and ever since my injury years ago I have been doing prescribed stretches x2 daily.
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bwfm
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Posted 7/29/2012 5:05 PM (GMT -7)
I think my ophthalmologist did say something about my meibomian glands and that is why I have to do the hot compress thing every morning. But I will check with them the next time I go in.
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Posted 7/30/2012 8:48 AM (GMT -7)
I hope this all helps, Medfree.

I'm glad you posted about this, too, because I also have Blepharitis, and I never remember to do the hot compress thing (or drops, or anything else)...yesterday, my daughter put some eyeshadow on my lids and it flared up. Of course. I haven't worn mascara for about 10 years, for that reason (sigh.) It just doesn't seem worth it. But maybe with all the right treatments, I can. I tend to forget - makeup is fun!

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almost medfree
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Posted 7/30/2012 12:27 PM (GMT -7)
Hi All,

My eyes seem to be doing much better. To save on money I've decided to just use the eye drops and warm compress and save the lid wipes for those days I wear eye makeup. I wore mascara recently and it seemed to irritate my eyes. I use to wear it just about every day.

How do you girls remove your eye makeup? I've been using maybelline eye makeup remover for years. Maybe that irritates and dries my eyes?

Sherrine, water soluable mascara? Can I ask which brand that is?

Something to share--a couple months ago I purchased an air purifer with an ionic option. There is a button to push to use that option. I read on a website that an air purifier that using ions can do harm to you by putting out ozone. This website I read through said it can affect the lungs and dry the eyes. I'm no longer using the ionic option.

Thanks!
Fibromyalgia, CFS, multiple chemical sensivity, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, ADD, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, headaches. The only medication I take is ibuprofen at night to sleep along with my supplements for sleeping. I am on a regiment of different supplements, I eat very nutritiously, and ever since my injury years ago I have been doing prescribed stretches x2 daily.
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Posted 8/2/2012 3:18 AM (GMT -7)
I use Mirenesse mascara, it coats the eyelashes and if you wet your fingers and slide them down your eyelashes the Mirenesse mascara comes off in tubes. It also lasts all day withourt running or flaking, I love it.
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