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Sherrine
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   Posted 11/12/2015 11:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Ahhh...a nice new fresh thread!

Here are the links to Part 1 and Part 2 if anyone wants to read through them.

Part 1

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=24&m=2898598

Part 2

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=24&m=3274470

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Post Edited (Sherrine) : 11/14/2015 4:42:47 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 11/13/2015 4:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Sherrine.

Sorry I didn't get back to you, Grammy. It's been very busy around here. My husband and I are moving to another part of town soon. We found a healthier location. The move will be good for both of us.

I know what you mean about being on your feet for too long and your muscles starting to burn. I have to remind myself to breathe at that point and I sometimes use what I've learned in the book, The Healing Code.

Interesting thing I've discovered about my feeling tight at night and experiencing more difficulty in trying to go to sleep, if I eat a gassy food that day, this affects my ability to sleep. Strange...
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   Posted 11/14/2015 1:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Almost medfree, I read the article you posted, and I decided to start a food diary. Thanks for the nudge!
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   Posted 11/14/2015 6:24 AM (GMT -6)   
You're welcome, woinarrow.

What started my journey in paying attention to what I eat was years ago I watched a public TV program featuring a speaker named JJ Virgin. She is a certified nutritionist. JJ worked with doctors to come up with the following program to help people deal with their arthritic pain and to help them lose weight.

She strongly suggests that a person stay away from the following seven foods for three weeks, see how you feel, then reintroduce one at a time and see how it affects you. I lost 7 lbs during those 3 weeks and yes my pain level improved somewhat…

The seven foods are: eggs, peanuts, corn, sugars including artificial, soy, dairy products, and gluten products.

It was as if restraining myself from these foods started to give me the ability to recognize which foods affected me. I discovered I also have to avoid acidic and spicy foods too. If my stomach bothers me--this tends to give me more pain and tightness.

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   Posted 11/14/2015 6:46 AM (GMT -6)   
By the way, I added the links to Part 1 and Part 2 of the Diet and Food Discussions threads...just in case anyone wants to go back and check them out...in the first post on this thread. I forgot to do that the other day.

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GrammyG
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   Posted 11/24/2015 12:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, MedFree. I need to read that book. I sure hope you have help with your move and don't overdo. Such a lot of work to move.

I'm pretty happy that my Sleep Apnea test came back normal. I have used a CPAP for 15 years but lost 45 pounds about 4 years ago. I retested and it was normal. This has encouraged me so much. Now if I could just lose 30 more pounds! I am stuck and can't seem to get it to budge. I know if I go lower carb that I would lose more BUT I am nervous about going lower carb because I started passing kidney stones.

Do you crave sugar, MedFree? It causes me so many problems with my diet. I will do well and then I have a day when my cravings get the best of me. What keeps you motivated to stay consistent with eating well?

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   Posted 11/24/2015 6:00 AM (GMT -6)   
YW, and thanks for your concern, Grammy, about our moving. You wouldn't believe the supportive and understanding husband I have. He understands I can't do a lot and he enjoys working hard. We're taking the move slowly, we're going to have 3 weeks to get it done. Not only is my husband strong, he's smart too. I feel truly blessed.

Congrats, Grammy, on having your sleep apnea issue come back as normal! I was tested for that a couple times in the past. I have a mild case. I tried the CPAP and I couldn't do it, maybe because of my old neck injury. It was very uncomfortable for me. You must be thrilled you can stop using it.

I wonder if healthier carbs would do the trick for you, Grammy. I found a bread in the freezer section of the store that I like better than Ezekial Bread. It's Rudi's bread. We buy the gluten free multigrain variety. For the first time in my life, I found a bread with crusts that I love too.

Do I crave sugar? No, maybe because I don't eat it? When I'm at a nice restaurant with beautiful desserts, it can be difficult to pass up things like key lime pie. But then I remind myself of how I'll sleep if I eat it or how I'll feel the next day. Then I pat myself on the back and take pride in myself and say, job well done!

And, I also don't have sugar or products containing more than a minimal amount of sugar in the house. The only sweetener I use during the day is some local honey in my steel cut oatmeal in the morning.

I've found if I occasionally eat something, like when I would cheat years ago and have a Burger King whopper, I would crave those bad foods more. Completely staying away from it, helps me keep those cravings away.

I'm definitely not near perfect when it comes to snacking. In the afternoon I have a few sweet potato chips and a bit of healthy cereal with almond milk. These seem to help settle my stomach. And in the evening I have white bean chips and homemade guacamole. The chips are processed but they're probably better the most. These are the treats that I crave.

I do have a healthy morning snack, almond butter spread on a slice of Rudi's toast.

And for drinking, I only drink water and I have a cup of apple juice with my breakfast. I drink a lot of water. I find that I crave it.
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Post Edited (almost medfree) : 11/24/2015 5:25:44 AM (GMT-7)


GrammyG
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   Posted 11/24/2015 11:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi MedFree,

You are blessed to have an understanding and supportive husband. I don't know what I would do without my sweetheart! He is disabled but tries so hard to help where he can. It's wonderful that you can take your time.

Well, I got some discouraging news from my doctor today. He told me to stay on the CPAP machine. He said it would help but didn't say why so I sent him back a note. I slept without it last night.

I will definitely check out the Rudis bread. I am insulin resistant so I am very sensitive to wheat and sugar. I can gain weight so quickly. I have added Butternut Squash and occasionally will eat oatmeal.

Sugar is like an addiction. I don't eat sugar (rarely) but I still make low carb treats using Erythritol and stevia. It keeps my cravings stirred up.

Do you have problems with blood sugar issues? I go in and out of a pre-diabetic diagnosis.

Do you have some favorite health blogs you read regularly?
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   Posted 11/25/2015 6:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Grammy,

So nice to hear from you. I'm glad you also have a wonderfully supportive husband. And it's nice even though he's disabled, he tries hard.

Concerning the discouraging news, good luck with the note. Maybe you can ask him why you need to use it and if there's a way to "test" how you're doing without it. Good luck on that.

I just took a look at my Ezekial bread and Rudi's bread in the freezer. The sprouted grains and seed Ezekial bread has 0 grams of sugar. The Rudi's has 3 grams. No wonder it's so good. I'm going to have to pay attention and see if having a sandwich (2 pieces) affects my sleep that night.

I love butternut squash. I don't think I have blood sugar issues. But I do find I have to eat something every couple hours or I'll feel weak and sometimes crabby.

Health blogs--I never looked into that. Is there one or two you could recommend?
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   Posted 11/25/2015 7:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Olives and olive oil help with insulin resistance. I have that problem too. Also olive leaf extract is supposed to be good but I haven't tried that. I just eat green Spanish olives and, since I started doing that, my A1C tests have been magnificent! I just got my latest results last week and it was 5.7. That's excellent.

Of course losing weight does help, too, and counting carbs did the trick for me.

Sherrine

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almost medfree
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   Posted 11/25/2015 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm glad olives help you, Sherrine. I tried it and even with rinsing them the vinegar affects my stomach. I'll have to check out that olive leaf extract. Thanks.
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True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

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   Posted 11/29/2015 1:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I wish I could eat the olives. I even have an olive tree and have cured my own olives in the past. But, the salt bothers my joints. All salt seems to bother me these days. I even rinsed the olives but it seemed to still bother me. I'm so glad it works for you, Sherrine.
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   Posted 11/29/2015 6:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Grammy,

An olive tree, wow. I wanted to share with you that I recently had jarred artichokes that were in an olive oil brine. They were pretty good.

Here's a recipe you might want to try for your olives:

http://wishfulchef.com/marinated-olives/#recipe
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True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

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   Posted 11/30/2015 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi MedFree,

That looks like a yummy recipe. I still would have problems though because an olive has to be cured first in a brine of salt. Next year I may make them and give away for gifts. It's a lot of work.

I'm going to try not take my Gabapentin tonight. I'm down to 1 pill. I'm hoping I can get off of it completely.
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   Posted 12/1/2015 5:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Good luck, Grammy, I (we're) pulling for you.

Yesterday I had an appointment with my massage therapist and she applied peppermint oil mixed with unscented lotion to the bottom of my feet. (They can get tired feeling and itchy on the bottoms.) Feels and smells very nice.
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True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

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   Posted 12/1/2015 7:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Grammy, you can cure olives with water and also with lye. Here is a link that explains this. It's at the bottom of the article.

mhttp://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=46

You also could try olive leaf extract but talk with your doctor first.

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   Posted 12/2/2015 12:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you, Sherrine. I wonder how they would taste without the salt? I'll do some more investigation. Thanks so much for thinking of me.
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   Posted 12/2/2015 10:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Apple cider vinegar

Has anybody tried regularly consuming this for fibro symptoms? From what I've read there is not alot of research done.

But I read that it can help with weight loss, so I gave it a try. A cup of warm water , 1/2 tablespoon of acv, and honey Before breakfast. What I happened to notice is my morning pain has decreased.

So then I read more that there are claims that it increases potassium, balances blood sugar levels and helps digestion and more .

Also I read to be careful if you have diabetes and check with your doc first .

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   Posted 12/2/2015 12:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Vinegar does help with pain. Some people with arthritis will drink pickle juice but I sure wouldn't. It's way too acidic and I think could cause stomach problems.

I eat Kosher dill pickles every day (they are cured in vinegar) and that has helped decrease my pain...that and green Spanish places. My he olives have something in them that works like an NSAID without the stomach problems. Between the olives and pickles, I've gotten rid of half my pain medication and also my insulin shot. My doctor is starting to take notice and is asking me questions. turn

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   Posted 12/2/2015 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I am taking Apple Cider Vinegar tablets to keep things acidic to discourage kidney stones. I take 2 with each meal. I was a bit concerned about the vinegar and my teeth although I have heard you can rinse your mouth afterwards.

That is so interesting, Sherrine. I will do a search to see if there are low sodium olives or pickles.
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   Posted 12/2/2015 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Sherrine... I just did a search and they DO sell low sodium olives at Coscto, Walgreens and Walmart. Yippee Skippy.

Did you tell me that you eat one serving of olives a day? And how many pickles?
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   Posted 12/2/2015 1:17 PM (GMT -6)   
We buy the low sodium olives at Walmart and they are yummy. I am interested in the serving size on this too. I have been following the thread and it seems very interesting :)
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   Posted 12/4/2015 6:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I know the link I'm providing below isn't from a very reputable website, but I have heard my doctors comment on some of the information contained in the following article:

http://sugaraholics.com/2012/05/16/the-dangerous-effects-of-modern-sugar-use-100-sugar-dangers/

It amazes me when I see people eating a sugary substance in place of a meal. But what amazes me even more is when I see parents purchasing a large sugary substance for their children like a piled-high ice cream cone. How could they be hungry later?

Thanks for listening. i would appreciate your comments.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, MCS, scoliosis, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, allergies, headaches. On a regiment of different supplements including sleep supplements. I eat nutritiously and perform prescribed stretches twice daily.

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   Posted 12/4/2015 10:46 AM (GMT -6)   
No one, but no one is ever going to take away my ice cream. I love it and have some nearly every day. I like to make sundaes and lots of times use fresh fruit as the topping with a healthy dose of whipped cream on top. Yum! I will have this in the evening after having a healthy meal. I also use no sugar added ice cream. I can enjoy my sweets in a fairly healthy way this way.

I like sweet things and use in moderation because I'm diabetic. But with an A1C of 5.7 and blood work that is all in the normal range, cholesterol is excellent and blood pressure is low and I'm keeping my weight steady...I'm not going to deprive myself of enjoying sweets. Life is short. I'm going to enjoy it in moderation.

By the way. I'm so tired of hearing of all the foods I shouldnt eat. If I was a rabbit I'd be very very happy. devil I believe in everything in moderation.

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Post Edited (Sherrine) : 12/4/2015 8:51:07 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 12/4/2015 12:10 PM (GMT -6)   
When I worked outside my home some years back, I'd see people having a cigarette and a Pepsi and calling it their lunch! Ewwww!

The older I get, the more my body seems to not tolerate sugar well (more headache or sinus issues, especially). But that's okay. I'm fine if I just have a bite or two of maybe a cookie, or a mini candy bar--just enough to satisfy. I know it's healthier for me, too. And it focuses me more on healthy eating--a good thing.

So true, Sherrine--everything in moderation.
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