Hi Shelly so glad to have you back. Well, Tuesday we saw two Dr. Gi First then he made an appt immediatley and sent us to a Dermatologist. By the time we saw the GI I had it figured out but was hoping I was wrong. He has Shingles. Yep, full blown. By the time we got to the Dermatologist the blisters were dripping down the back of his neck. By the time we got home that late afternoon it had spread to his cheek, ear, chin, under the chin and chest. Both Dr. were puzzled by the pattern. He did not want a Dermatologist to give him any pain meds for fear she wasn't familiar with liver disease and it could harm his liver more. That was Tues. We had an appt on Wed at Vanderbilt. I'm here to tell you by that time he had no problems taking pain meds. He has never complained only once did he say his head felt like it was falling off. Today he had to be drained because he was in a lot of pain from fluid. He made it 4 weeks this time. But they only got 3.7 liters which isn't much for him. Seems his bowels were in the way so its likely he has at least 3 more liters in there. He has perked up some today even have being drained. The Dr. called from Vanderbilt to check on him. They don't usually react much because they see really sick people but they really felt bad for him. So that is the update on Jerry. I'm sure you read my post about him falling. On the positive side we spent two weeks at our house at the beach. That was wonderful. I pray that you pain will weaken and your memories of your brother will make your heart feel better.