Uh-ohoo! Pig Chimera organs

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A.Ziffle
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   Posted 1/10/2016 8:37 PM (GMT -7)   
News flash!!!! Pork not only tasty but now officially available as transplant organ.
www.technologyreview.com/news/545106/human-animal-chimeras-are-gestating-on-us-research-farms/.

Ziff
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**David**
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   Posted 1/11/2016 8:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Arnold, you're already halfway there...

woofer4
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   Posted 1/11/2016 3:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Ziff, thanks for posting this and giving this old fart's brain a good shake (woofer5 here and I prefer shaken...not stirred...And yes I'm looking forward to the new Bond movie)

On a positive note, a while back I was reading up on genetic engineering and gratified to see this medical research really coming into its own...in particular,
Chimeric Antigen Receptor (CAR) research.
Trials with both kids and adults are showing very promising results and huge benefits for these patients.

For eg., a recent CART clinical trial (CAR T-cell) at
The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia showed:

"30 patients with acute lymphoblastic leukemia (25 children and 5 adults) have been treated using T cell therapy. Of those patients:

27 patients (90 percent) went into a complete remission for some length of time after receiving T cell therapy
19 of 30 remain in remission
7 of 30 experienced a recurrence of disease"

It really is so profound and heartening to see these patients have hope and joy in their lives again...especially the kids...
God Bless the little ones...it's so tough to see them ill and in pain

Here are few links for anyone interested:

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancger/treatment/research/car-t-cells

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/42462/title/The-CAR-T-Cell-Race/

http://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/cancer-center/t-cell-therapy-ctl019#.VpPumHo8KrU

http://www.discoverymedicine.com/category/research-technology/genetic-engineering/

A.Ziffle
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   Posted 1/11/2016 4:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey David. As one of my favorite cereal characters used to say "They're always after me Lucky Charms".

Woof, If you don't tell anyone it's you using a alias nobody will find out. Dang it!!!! Too late huh? smilewinkgrin


Not to get on a touchy subject but one of my conflicts with this experimenting drags up my days as a youth in Sunday school (Church). No!!! I haven't always been a heathen. I suppose they will have to put ethical limitations on just how far this type of research can go. Only problem is, some mad scientist character may go ahead and create island full of these half human animals. What was that old scary movie "The island of Dr. Monroe" or something. Hopefully he'll use Nantucket if that happens. Most of those folks up there wouldn't notice. Anyhow I'll give those links a looky see. Science intrigues me almost as much as history.


Ziff
"The truth will set you free, but not before it pisses you off."

woofer4
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   Posted 1/11/2016 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Ziff, not touchy at all.
I think most of us have reservations about any of this stuff. There are always those that will exploit any situation...let alone the usual greedy b*****ds that circle like vultures.
This aside, there are always unintended consequences...the best laid plans and all that.

Don't know if you're interested...I'm a movie buff myself. I especially like some of the vintage black & white flicks.
Anyway, the original mad scientist "island" flick is called:
"Island of Lost Souls" story by H.G. Wells...1932...stars Charles Laughton (the original Captain Bligh) and Bela Lugosi. Also has Panther Woman (Leila Hyams) "lures men on only to destroy them body and soul"...lol.
Great flick.

A.Ziffle
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   Posted 1/11/2016 8:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Seen 2001 Space Odyssey a couple weeks back for the first time. Still trying to wrap my head around that one. Lord of the flies for a second time last week and Vertigo for the first time. All exceptionally well written movies. Most movies today don't interest me. Bridge of Spies was a exception to that rule. Thanks for the suggestions and correction. I'll check out the suggested titles.


Ziff
"The truth will set you free, but not before it pisses you off."

nhelen79
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   Posted 1/13/2016 3:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I think animal humane society will have issues with that, and who knows what some mad but genius scientists might do as Ziff and Woof said. Personally, I think it should be enforced strictly and would help many in need. I've read that in China or Asia, they kidnap people illegally and sell the body parts for those rich ones that need organ transplant. So if we can try with animal within the moral limit, it would help. But who define morale and limits? :)

A.Ziffle
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   Posted 1/13/2016 5:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Helen and welcome. Yes, I have heard that about the illegal organ black market. I could see that happening very easily myself. I'd personally be weary of a few issues for those who would consider that route. Extensive testing of a organ you received wouldn't likely be done. Karma alone would be my personal biggest fear.

Morals seemed to be defined years ago by religions. Most religions have a set of moral codes and almost all those groups share similar or identical beliefs. Atheists and the like didn't mind since those moral codes didn't infringe on human rights. Nowadays everyone is so frickin easily offended. Religious organizations have been found to be more criminally sick than most can stomach. Hence we have a society that views anything morally organized like a church as being no better than the men that run it (a penchant for corruption), I wished I could disagree. Same thing with the government. Ahhh, Just the opinion of this simple minded rube.

Carol and Miz, Is that Connies keys to her locks I here dragging eerily in the background? I'm overdue for my scolding and subsequent locking of a post. smilewinkgrin

Ziff
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