Cirrhosis - new to forum advise please

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Max1967
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   Posted 10/16/2016 3:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi - hoping to get some advise - just wanted to know what drugs I could be safely put on for hypertension if I have advanced liver issues - any info would be appreciated
Thank
Max

ppm guy
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   Posted 10/16/2016 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
hi max and welcome,
soory about your diagnosis. can you give me more information on your cirrhosis. what kind of hepatitis do you have? viral, alcoholic, fatty liver? Is your cirrhosis compensated (early cirrhosis) or more advanced. diets are specific according to your stage of damage.. please get back to me with more specific info.

Max1967
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   Posted 10/16/2016 9:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks ppm guy
I have compensated cirrhosis - alcoholic - have not had a drink for about 3 weeks - that is okay I only really ever drank because of major depression and anxiety - self medicating I think - oh well I have self medicated into a dangerous arena and now I don't have my crutch (Vodka) - to be honest I am close to finishing things - I have had it rough for so long I can't actually remember anything different - depression and alcohol have been my life - wow - what a disaster - I am so impressed by the resilience of the people on the liver forums - the fight to survive - I have it for brief moments but then it all caves in - my melancholia paralyses me and I slump into and endless pit of despair - sorry I know this is not a depression forum - thanks for taking the time to reply ps I spent my career studying eyes - did you know ppm stands for persistent pupillary membrane - a genetic defect where strands of iridal tissue persist and attach to the lens or cornea etc - I assume your ppm stands for something else take care Max

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   Posted 10/17/2016 11:03 AM (GMT -7)   
hi max,
sounds very familiar. i got infected with hep c as a teenager. i also drank a 12 pak+ daily for 25 years. i ended up with cirrhosis in 2006. ive been clean since 1992, when i was diagnosed with hep c. i also deal with mental illness. bipolar/add/Asperger. and my handle,PPM, stands for primary progressive multiple sclerosis.

congrats on your sobriety. remaining clean is your only chance, of leading a somewhat healthy life. hopefully you are seeing a hepatologist.. only hep drs can deal with the complications that cirrhosis can cause. the hep team should walk you thru the proper diet for your stage of cirrhosis. since i was compensated when i cleared hep c, i will give you my diet;

i started eating fresh fruit and vegetales, with white meat chicken. i added greek yogurt to keep up my protein, and added some gratifying foods that were safe. if you have leg swelling as i still do, salt reduction, and limiting red meats are recommended.

following all your drs orders, and staying true the program is key. i have improved my liver function in the 3 years, i have been following the rules. my last ultrasound, showed my liver surface has healed somewhat. REMEMBER THIS; staying clean is your cure.

get back to me. there are others here who have traveled the same road, and have dealt with severe complications,ESLD,and transplant. you should also be checked for liver cancer, every 6 months. that is protocol, every 6 months.

glad to meet you

Max1967
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   Posted 10/18/2016 1:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much PPM Guy
thanks for sharing some of your story with me - you must have been to some very dark places and it is a tribute to your character that you have fought through all of this and are still fighting and willing to help others - I really respect that. For me my issues started around 5 with depersonalisation and suicidal ideation - things were so bad I don't even think there are words - two alcoholic abusive parents and complete chaos were my reality - I should have had help but back then I don't think the importance of child mental welfare was as clearly established - anyway I soon was on drugs (with alcohol being the mainstay) and graduated from beer to stout to wine to port and finally found a partner in vodka - a bottle+ a day for about 25 years also - the magic number - through this time I tried to get help for my mental issues - Dx Unipolar MDD / BP / psychotic episodes / depersonalisation - nothing really helped me - drugs / psychotherapy / ECT and I certainly would never have slept unless I was tanked. All the usual - failed relationships / employment issues / trouble with the law etc etc - it's all very hard to reconcile - anyway I have finally come to a grinding halt - a big crossroad - I either change and fight or there really is no future - in the end only I can pull myself out of this dark place but having some encouragement / support is critical especially now when I really feel very ambivalent about my chances - its the psychiatric issues that are really killing me - if the alcohol / cirrhosis were out of the picture I think I would still feel that I have had enough mentally - anyway as you say many people have been through this and more as your story shows - it's weird I can tell this to an anonymous Internet forum but I have no one I can tell in person - my friends and family still need me to be the strong one - no issues Max is fine - I think it's a growing up with alcoholics thing - always needing to prove yourself - find acceptance / be successful / fear of exposure for being inadequate / no self esteem etc etc So I have got through another day - thanks again PPM guy - your words resonate with me and your advice is appreciated Max

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   Posted 10/18/2016 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
hey max,
yes!!! you have come to the crossroad. the path is clear, there are no shortcuts.

I finally quit drinking when I was diagnosed with hep c. I was faced with that journey. quit or face a couple decades of hell. I still got cirrhosis because the hep c was basically incurable for my genotype. my focus turned to fighting this slow moving monster that will get you in the end.

you also have a monster tracking you down. ESLD is the next stop on your journey. but you have a big advantage. you can be CURED. the liver will heal at your stage. I hope!!!!

stay in touch, we have a great support team here.

ppm guy
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   Posted 10/18/2016 5:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Correction:
I meant to say geno 1a was almost incurable with old school drugs. A small percent of 1a did reach svr

Max1967
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   Posted 10/18/2016 7:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I will defo let you know how things pan out
Thanks again PPM Guy and I pray things go well for you - Max
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