Are my AFIB and burping/indigestion related to Fatty Liver Disease?

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Brutesky98
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   Posted 9/16/2017 7:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,

for the last 4 years I have been battling constant burping and indigestion "attacks" that end up sending me in atrial fibrillation, a form of arrhythmia.

Heart is structurally sound and they have already tried ablating it to stop the afib with no success.

Gastroscopy does not show anything special only slight irritation, no esophagitis. Upper Gi X-rays show a lot of reflux. Tiny hiatal hernia.

Abdomen ultrasound did show a fatty liver and my TCM acupuncturist insists all my burping and reflux and heart issues are being caused by a congested and fatty liver. comventional doctors are disregarding that claim of course as my blood test liver function is fine. When the Chinese doctor presses on a liver meridian I am in excruciating pain.

I am much better on a clean alkaline food diet. Fatty meats, fried food, chocolate and coffee make me much worse.

I have tried many many medications, too many to list. The heart meds keep my heart stable but I feel horrible on them, I'm only 42.

Acid reflux medication doesn't seem to help although ranitidine works better than any ppi oddly enough.

Is this a chain reaction? Fatty liver causing reflux which causes indigestion and finally afib? Thanks in advance!!!

Post Edited By Moderator (MamaLama) : 9/17/2017 9:36:09 AM (GMT-6)


MamaLama
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   Posted 9/17/2017 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi B98...

this analysis is above my pay grade.

in my many years on this site, this is a new one for me.

I am going to poke around the internet a bit and see if i find anything interesting.

my partner, Mike, a transplant recipient has had cardiac troubles, not Afib, rather he needed an aortic valve replacement AFTER his transplant... no one drew a line between the two... as he had a murmer at that location for years and the valve was failing. Also, 3 of his siblings had the same bicuspid valve instead of a tri-cuspid valve at that location. So in his case, genetics played a role. He continues to have trouble controlling his BP and cholesterol. Likely totally independent per he docs.

Sound like you are doing all you can do with diet.

Maybe we will hear from some others. I am going to update the title of your thread so that it will come up when someone searches on your topic.

Mama Lama
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Partner received liver transplant (May 1, 2011) FL
Hep C 1a Treatment - Sovaldi/Olysio (March - May 2014)
Undetected since week 4. Undetected 12 weeks post treatment.

MamaLama
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   Posted 9/17/2017 8:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Okay, there is a lot on the Internet:

Google -- AFIB and Fatty Liver Disease

Typical Article...copy and paste into your browser:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4646339/
MamaLama, Forum moderator - Hepatitis
Partner received liver transplant (May 1, 2011) FL
Hep C 1a Treatment - Sovaldi/Olysio (March - May 2014)
Undetected since week 4. Undetected 12 weeks post treatment.

ppm guy
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   Posted 9/17/2017 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
I have liver disease and A fib. I have had liver disease for 50+ years. I was diagnosed with A fib with rvr( rapid ventricular response). I also go into bradycardia, which is abnormally low heart rate. I now have pacemaker. I noticed the abnormal heart rhythm when my blood pressure/ heart rate began to be out of range.

There are other reasons why the 2 issues can coincide.
1. Do you drink alcohol?
2. Ranitidine can cause liver problems.
3. Did your dr check your A1C, lipid numbers.
4. Have you incorporated healthy liver lifestyle with your heart and a fib meds.

Fatty liver can be reversed, with strict lifestyle changes. Your liver enzymes are normal, so there is minimal inflamation in your liver.

I believe in my case. The A fib is a result of 50 years of liver disease, and more so, because of the harsh and toxic meds I had to take. You are also taking harsh meds.

I prefer to follow traditional medicine, when it comes to serious health problems.

You have a good question

Alcie
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   Posted 9/26/2017 8:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Your problem may possibly have nothing to do with your liver. It's easy to check.

I get the same indigestion/feeling of needing to burp, leading to supraventricular tachycardia (not true Afib), after eating foods containing sulfites. My problem is an intolerance or allergic reaction (depending on how you label this sort of reaction). Look up cardioesophageal reflex (not reflux). There are many scientific reports.

When I consume over my tolerance of 2000 micrograms of any sulfite (found in wine, beer, gelatin, corn starch, and many other foods) my esophagus and stomach react, usually withing a half hour, but possible after several hours, by triggering my vagus nerve, which causes my coronary arteries to spasm, causing tachycardia.

I can often get the tach to stop by doing Valsalva maneuver - like trying to force a burp or pushing like trying to have a bowel movement. If it goes on for a while over 150 bpm I take an Atenolol, but if it goes on for a couple of hours at a rate over 150 bpm I have to go to the ER, a couple of times having chemical heart restart.

There is a way to find out if you have a food intolerance/food trigger: keep a food journal. There are MANY stories about food journals in the archives (the search box at the top of the page).

This may have nothing to do with you, but keeping a food journal is free and easy.
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