Liver Failure but NOT Cirrhosis

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raggadyann17
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   Posted 8/1/2018 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
can anyone explain to me what the diffrence is between Liver failure & Cirrhosis. was told hubby had liver failure but not cirrhosis, and they don't know what is causing it, not Viral either NOT drinker ? Was told 3-6 months but hard to predict. All this is making NO sense

MamaLama
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   Posted 8/1/2018 8:49 PM (GMT -6)   
liver failure can be caused by multiple reasons...some that progress over time and others that can have rapid onset.

alcoholic cirrhosis can cause liver failure over time, but some poisonings our auto immune reactions can be quick to reach dangerous stages.

if you do a google search on liver failure and cirrhosis, there are several good articles to read.

best to your family

mama lama
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ppm guy
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   Posted 8/2/2018 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
hi raggadyann,
I remember your last post, about poor blood flow to the liver. That can possibly be the reason for his liver failing. Have you heard anything about a liver transplant if the doctors cant fix the occlusion?

raggadyann17
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   Posted 8/2/2018 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Hubby has decided he is NOT gona do anything & Let nature take it's course. Reason being is cause also they stated that it looks like he Neoplasm in his native kidney & only way to know is removal of old kidney to biopsy, Doctor also said with all the complications coming that possible 3-6 months for him & hubby said he is sick & tired of being sick & tired & he said NO more. He is done. So all this overwhelming for me. It will be a year Augt 14th since he received Kidney transplant.

MamaLama
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   Posted 8/3/2018 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
hi raggadyann,

when a patient has decided it is "enough", i have realized, as my friends are of an age (70s and 80s) that death is a reality we all must face, and that we have some control of our transition from this life.

palliative care is an alternative many choose when treatments have become too much to bear. you doc can recommend a hospice counselor who will educate you on the alternatives.

my partner, mike, sat at his brother's bedside when his brother made such a decision last fall. his brother had cirrhosis, and liver cancer that metastasized to his spine. he was paralyzed, bedridden, and in constant pain. he was offered a radical, experimental surgery, chemo and radiation. he decided on palliative care and spent 4 weeks in the hospice wing of the va hospital near his home. his family visited, even some who had been estranged. he passed in no pain with sufficient morphine. he just could not do one more intervention, even though he successfully cleared from hep c, and had 2 successful radio frequency ablations of tumors in his liver. he was 65...still young. and we are very sad...but, he chose what was right for him.

another short story. my partner, mike, was near death in 2011, needing a transplant, on the list, sober 6 months, and they finally had a liver for him. as they wheeled him to surgery, the nurse reminded him that the surgery could fail, that there were significant risks as he was in such dire condition. he told the nurse he had accepted either outcome, that he could not live one more day in the condition he was then. he was ready to die. me...not so much. he is now 7.5 years post transplant. a miracle, but he has decided if he needs another liver, or his stage 3 kidney disease progresses, he will not do an intervention.

i wish you and your family the best...this is sooo hard.

and hugs, mamalama
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ppm guy
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   Posted 8/3/2018 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
So sorry to hear this. My wife made the same decision.. after fighting cancer for 3 years, her kidneys started to fail.. She refused dialysis.

I wish the very best for you and him at this very tough time

raggadyann17
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   Posted 8/11/2018 2:54 PM (GMT -6)   
So hubby is back in hospital & when he gets home he will be put on Hospice ,his Bilirubin is 21 already, they had originally gave us 3-6 months predictability but thinking it's gona be sooner now.

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   Posted 8/11/2018 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope he will be more comfortable at home. Hospice kept my wife clean and comfortable, and helped the family get through it..

MamaLama
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   Posted 8/14/2018 8:22 AM (GMT -6)   
My yhoughts are with you. Hearing is the last sense to fail...let gim hear your loving words as you face this together...
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raggadyann17
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   Posted 8/23/2018 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Just wanted to let everyone know my husband Rich passed away early yesterday Morning{Wed} , My heart is both heavy & relieved knowing that he suffers no more.

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   Posted 8/23/2018 6:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so very sorry for the loss of your husband.
I wish you the best going forward.
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