Prep cor colonoscopy causing inflammation? probiotic use

Terps19

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Posted 3/29/2006 12:11 PM (GMT -6)

I usually post on the UC board but I wanted to post this here as well.

Can the prep for a colonoscopy (in my case it was fleet phosphosoda) cause inflammation to be seen during the colonoscopy? When I had my colonoscopy a year ago they found very mild inflammation that could only be seen under a microscope and my old GI threw the Ulcerative Colitis tag on me. Well my new GI doc does think I have UC by looking at cscope findings and other records. He thinks it might just be IBS and the inflammation was caused by the c scope prep or because I am intolerant of glutenand dairy (just found that out 2 weeks ago).

Anyways I think it is more of the IBS type thing because before I got married in Jan I was really nervous and stressed and I had stomach problems as a result (nausea and D and weight loss). But then after the wedding I was good for 2.5 months until I just lost my job this past Monday and now the nausea and stomach grumbling is back.

I think I am going to start taking iFlora probiotic. Do any of your take probiotics? If so what brand and does it help?

Is it UC or MC?

Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily

Entocort EC 9mg

Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me

VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day

Compazine 10 mg as needed

Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed

Officially married!

2.14.06 Test results positive for gluten and dairy sensativity! GFCF in May.

dbab

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Posted 3/29/2006 12:18 PM (GMT -6)

Yes, its very common for the prep to cause inflammation and they call it prep induced inflammation. I freaked out when I saw my pictures because I had inflammation all through the colon and thought I had pancolitis when in fact I just have proctosigmoiditis. But the inflammation was prep induced.

Did they see any ulcerations/granulations on your scope when they gave the dx? My dx was not done through biopsy (they tried) but through a visual observance between two gi doctors (I still question my dx because of this too) but my pics are pretty clear that there was something nasty going on in there.

I don't take any probiotics yet because they are currently putting me through tests to see if my medications are helping with my inflammation and they don't want anything to disturb the balances.

There are many on here though that I'm sure will be by to give you their experience on probiotics since more than half of our regulars take them.

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Terps19

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Posted 3/29/2006 12:25 PM (GMT -6)

They said my colonoscopy looked clean through the scope. Afte rmy scope my GI came out and said everything looks great in there but we did biopsies just in case. Well the biopsies showed the mild inflammation and was labeled as a UCer which I have always wondered about. It always seems my problems come about when I am stressed which I know is a hallmark sign of IBS.

Is it UC or MC?

Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily

Entocort EC 9mg

Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me

VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day

Compazine 10 mg as needed

Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed

Officially married!

2.14.06 Test results positive for gluten and dairy sensativity! GFCF in May.

dbab

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Posted 3/29/2006 12:31 PM (GMT -6)

Wow I can't believe they gave you a UC dx just with inflammation. Inflammation in the colon is colitis unless you have the ulcers and then its UC. I'm glad that you got rechecked on this because giving dx's out like this one can cause a lot of problems for you (mainly obtaining life insurance!)

In people with IBS; stress, food, bacteria, food intolerance/allergies are all considered IBS when they give you the IBS symptoms however you can have both IBS/IBD (like me). I see that you are on wellbutrin and ativan, did those make a difference in your symptoms when you got on them? I take xanax xr and notice that my stomach/abdomen feels so much calmer as well as my head.

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Terps19

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Posted 3/29/2006 12:38 PM (GMT -6)

I noticed at first that the Ativan made my hurting stomach go away for some time. I was also very stressed at the time and I think the ativan made my stress levels go way way down. It also like you said cleared my head! I was also suffering from depression a whole list of reasons (girlfriend now wife was moving from Maryland to Arizona, last semester in college, one of my hardest semesters in college, worried about planning a wedding by myself, worried about a new career, worried about moving to Arizona) and the wellbutrin helped me put things in perspective a bit. I am on a lower dose of it because the higher doses make me sick.

What kind of side effects does xanax have? It might be safer than taking ativan.

Is it UC or MC?

Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily

Entocort EC 9mg

Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me

VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day

Compazine 10 mg as needed

Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed

Officially married!

2.14.06 Test results positive for gluten and dairy sensativity! GFCF in May.

dbab

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Posted 3/29/2006 12:56 PM (GMT -6)

I'm actually on xanax xr (which is the extended release of xanax that you take once a day). I have never taken the regular xanax however I have heard that xanax has much more of an addiction risk than ativan. (This is just what I have observed from the A/P forum so don't quote me :) I don't know what the effects are with taking it with your other meds. I don't take oral meds for my UC however I do take the mesalamine enemas. I would definitely talk to your doc about your med choices though for your anxiety. Is the ativan even helping with the anxiety anymore or has your body adjusted to it?

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Terps19

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Posted 3/29/2006 1:02 PM (GMT -6)

I can definately feel when I take the Ativan. I am calmer and more level headed. When I dont take it (like this morning b/c I forgot) I get worried easier and sometimes even get nausea. I am perscriped 2 .5 mg a day. I usually only take 1 (1/2 in the morning 1/2 at night). Sometimes on rare occasions I take 2. Maybe I should increase my dose now since I am under more stress to 1.5 a day to see if that helps.

I didnt know Xanax causes more of an addiction than Ativan. I thought it was the other way around... but I could have heard wrong. Thanks for the ongoing conversation and I hope to get other inputs as well.

Is it UC or MC?

Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily

Entocort EC 9mg

Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me

VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day

Compazine 10 mg as needed

Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed

Officially married!

2.14.06 Test results positive for gluten and dairy sensativity! GFCF in May.

dbab

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Posted 3/29/2006 1:14 PM (GMT -6)

Terps19 said...
I didnt know Xanax causes more of an addiction than Ativan. I thought it was the other way around... but I could have heard wrong.

Sorry, my mistake... I was actually thinking of Buspar.

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Keriamon

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Posted 3/29/2006 1:25 PM (GMT -6)

There's some evidence that calcium can soothe/heal inflammation in the intestines. It can also be constipating for normal people, which means it would help dry up your diarrhea. Try some Caltrate 600 w/Vitamin D once or twice a day and see if that helps your diarrhea. I found that it also stopped the cramping/pain I was haveing--I assume from an inflammed intestine. Use that brand (or generic equivalent) specifically because it has the right balance of calcium and magnesium to stop diarrhea. A lot of the other brands/types add more magnesium to combat the constipation factor, so they don't work for us. Innape has a whole long post on how it all works if you're interested in reading it. I think Lil keeps it bookmarked for quick reference and can post it too.

dbab

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Posted 3/29/2006 1:36 PM (GMT -6)

Pics of prep induced inflammation

http://www.endoatlas.com/co_co_04.html

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Terps19

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Posted 3/29/2006 3:41 PM (GMT -6)

dbab

As far as I can tell my colon looks to be perfectly normal. On your pictures you have red spots visibile areas of inflammation. Mine was so minute you could only see it under a microscope.

I am taking the Caclium Caltrate sup you are talking about (I only take one pill a day though, 1/2 in the morning 1/2 a dinner and I am about to increase it to 1 in the morning 1 at night). I did read that post about calcium and IBS-D. But I dont know how much longer I will be able to take that specific calcium sup because I am intolerant to gluten and I havent checked to see if the product contains gluten.

Is it UC or MC?

Asacol... 2 tabs 2 times daily

Entocort EC 9mg

Rowasa enemas- never really sat well with me

VSL#3 probiotic-1-2 packets a day

Compazine 10 mg as needed

Wellbutrin 150 mg Ativan .5 mg as needed

Officially married!

2.14.06 Test results positive for gluten and dairy sensativity! GFCF in May.

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