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Posted 8/9/2006 2:48 PM (GMT -8)
Just a quick question.  My daughter just turned nine and she has been very sick with N&V and diarrhea.  They preformed an endoscopy and colonoscopy and one of the things that the doctor saw was an ulcer on the colon that was healing.  Can you get an ulcer on the colon with IBS?  Or does that ulcer mean that it is either chron's or uc.  She has some more test ordered for next week.  But I guess that I am just tired of waiting.  She also gets ulcers in her mouth and she had nodules on her esophagus and colon.  She also had gastritis.  Is IBS only bowels or can it involve stomache and other parts of digestive system?  Lots of questions huh?  Thanks!

Ivy's mom

Posted 8/9/2006 2:57 PM (GMT -8)
ulcers are not related to IBS, but are related to IBD...did he mention if there was any inflammation as well? Inflammation is also related to IBD and NOT to IBS, same with bleeding being related to IBD not IBS with the exception of hemmheroides...also Crohns can affect the entire GI tract whereas UC only affects the rectom/colon...if she has symptoms of nodules in her esophagus and colon that points towards crohns rather then ulcertive colitis....IBS is a mind-gut reaction type of syndrome whereas IBD having polyps, ulcers, inflammation, bleeding, ect involved makes it a disease.

Did you ask the GI any of these questions that you posted? If you weren't comfortable with that particular GI I'd be finding your daughter a knew one, even get a second opinion and such.

:)
Posted 8/9/2006 3:12 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for the quick answer. Only big complaint with GI is that he is too quick when he is with us. Yes he mentioned Crohn's but I was hoping that maybe that it could turn out to be IBS instead of IBD for the only reason of afraid of the surgeries that could happen. Both are terrible conditions to have. She has had bleeding from her bowels and severe abdominal pain. The biopsys that they took was negative for crohns but he said that they can still find it in the small intestine. Thanks for taking time with me.

Ivy's mom
Posted 8/10/2006 5:19 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Ivy's Mum

I have IBS and I get rectal ulcers. They have tested for UC and crohns but the biopsies were fine. I dont know why I get these ulcers but I do! Very strange.
I hope your daughter gets a diagnosis soon. The wait can be frustrating I know. Chrohns and UC are a possibility.
Good luck with everything
Take care
Posted 8/11/2006 6:04 AM (GMT -8)
Vic,What causes the ulcers in the colon?I have had one since Jan of 05 and my GI wanted to take the colon out.I said No and went to a colon surgeon and he said it was not cancer,but its because I push to hard to go to the bathroom.I have "D" a lot and it feels like I cant empty.They wanted me to take threpy to teach me how to strenghn my muscles.I still dont know what causes the ulcers in the colon.and info would be nice thanks Jay4
Posted 8/11/2006 7:13 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Jay,

 

I have IBS and what was thought to be ulcerative colitis until yesterday.  I have solitary rectal ulcer syndrome which is linked to the IBS.  I have a lot of constipation and diaharea.  When I strain too much or go to the toilet too much the rectum area gets inflamed and causes an ulcer.  I have treatment in the form of prednisilone suppositories. 

The ulcers can be caused by the way you strain aswell as everyones anatomy is different.  If you get constipated a lot, the pressure alone can cause the rectal ulcers.

If you have what I have you definatley don't need surgery but be sure that you get a proper diagnosis.

Good luck and let me know how you get on

Posted 8/11/2006 6:06 PM (GMT -8)
Vick,Yes thats what the doctor said I had too,they wanted me to go to therpy,but they did not give me anything to heal it.It just scares me to think it may turn into cancer.I've had IBS I think since a child.But what bothers me the most is the bloat. I look like i am 10 months prego,so uncomfortalbe.I just hate it,I also need to lose weight.I was on pred for 6 months.I have gained 40ilb last yr.well thanks for you input.take care jay
Posted 8/11/2006 10:44 PM (GMT -8)
I think if it were my daughter I would try and find a children's hospital in the area and get a specialist in GI for children. Perhaps you have already but if not I don't think I would be happy if you are not getting your questions answered.

Jay, I know how pred is as I have had it on and off for lung disease and it makes you want to eat the table. Have you tried the probiotics for bloating. they have really helped me tremendously with the bloat. I either take the Digestive Advantage or one I get at a store called Trader Joes that is a combination of Acidophaolous and something else. I threw the bottle out so don't know. but I really see a huge difference when I don't take them.
Posted 8/12/2006 5:12 PM (GMT -8)
Ivy is going to a pediatric GI. Ivy's ulcer is not in the rectal area. It was higher in the colon. At least that is what the doctor said but I am sure going to ask at her next appointment. Thanks everyone I will let you know what is going on after her upper GI with barium contrast or something like that. They want to do that before she swallows that pill that takes pictures of the GI. Thanks again.

Ivy's mom
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