Iberogast?

CathyA

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Posted 8/9/2007 5:51 PM (GMT -7)

Hi all,

The GI doc said that there was a German herbal supplement out there called "Iberogast" that can be used like Reglan. I've tried to find it, but some places say they've quit making it. Has anyone ever tried it? Its supposed to be really good.

Canyonbabe711

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Posted 8/9/2007 6:32 PM (GMT -7)

Cathy, why don't you try Motilium?It is made my Jansen pharmaceuticals. I don't know anything about the herbal supplement but those are so unregulated that you do need to be careful. Looking up the product you are talking about the reviews are quite good. It is made up of a number of herbs and it is liquid. The only thing is to make sure you get it from a reputable source but it does sound pretty good. I would guess as most things it depends on what kind of IBS you have. I think Reglan like Motilium is for poor motility.

Post Edited (Canyonbabe711) : 8/9/2007 7:37:12 PM (GMT-6)

CathyA

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Posted 8/9/2007 6:46 PM (GMT -7)

YAY! I finally got you here Canyonbabe! I've been trying to reach you through my other post, but you wouldn't come to it! Anyhow......I was trying to find out where you get your Motilium. Do you get it at a pharmacy or do you have to order it online? Thanks!

Canyonbabe711

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Posted 8/9/2007 9:42 PM (GMT -7)

I buy it from inhousepharmacy out of New Zealand. They are really great people and ship promptly and safely. Just www.inhousepharmacy.com I also buy my Albuteral inhalers from them since it is cheaper than my copay. It is not available in the US but most countries you can buy it over the counter except Canada and it is prescription there. The in house website will tell you all about the drug. No shipping charge. Hope it helps. My problem is I forget to take it before I eat so sometimes just take it later if I feel really bloated and too full. Glad you found me.

gutastrophe

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Posted 8/9/2007 10:21 PM (GMT -7)

What is Motilium?

CathyA

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Posted 8/10/2007 7:34 AM (GMT -7)

Thanks Canyonbabe.
I'm a little afraid to order anything through the mail in the middle of this heat wave. I think I'll wait until next month. Thanks for that info! I would love to try it.
gutastrophe.......I love your handle! I think the official name of Motilium is Domperidone. Hahaha.......almost sounds like that expensive French champagne! I have no idea if its natural or not. Maybe Canyonbabe will give us more info.

Canyonbabe711

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Posted 8/11/2007 9:35 PM (GMT -7)

Well, this is from the horses mouth.
http://www.rxmed.com/b.main/b2.pharmaceutical/b2.1.monographs/CPS-%20Monographs/CPS-%20(General%20Monographs-%20M)/MOTILIUM.html

More than you ever wanted to know. It is basically to increase motility thru the system so it would seem to me that no one that has a diahrea problem should take this. It has never given me diahrea but it just seems to move stuff more quickly out of my stomach so that the bloat, gas and acid goes away. The longer the food stays in stomach the more acid I get and bloat. It must be safe because they do give it to women to increase milk supply at higher dosages.

CathyA

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Posted 8/12/2007 7:19 PM (GMT -7)

Hi Canyonbabe,
Well, I was a little disappointed after I read some of the info on Motilium. It stimulates the pituitary. In female rats it looks like it caused ovarian cancer and and in male rats it caused pituitary tumors. I think its probably okay for women who are using it short-term for more breastmilk, but I think I would be nervous using it longterm. How often do you take it? Its hard to extrapolate from some of those animal studies though.

Canyonbabe711

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Posted 8/12/2007 7:37 PM (GMT -7)

Cathy, I think they are talking about a lot larger doses than one would take for stomach. It has been on the market for over 25 years. Have you read the Reglan side effects? Naturally this is your choice but my feeling is that they feed so many of these drugs in such large quanitities to rats and mice that I really don't know how they ever figure out how anything affects humans. I have never taken it more than once a day and then not every day but I think since it has been out so long and is available OTC that is must be quite safe. Remember that one that they took off the market a couple years ago here that caused heart attacks(cisapride?) Anyway, if you look at the Reglan side effects you will see it is not approved for long term and the side effects are much more and do include problems with the milk glands.

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/metoclo_ad.htm

Cathy, if you decide to try it I have a sealed pak you can have before you buy. I would be happy to send it. Not sure how we would get each others email but maybe there is a way.

Post Edited (Canyonbabe711) : 8/12/2007 10:57:38 PM (GMT-6)

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