Foamy urine - proteinuria or lack of water intake?

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Spikeman333
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   Posted 11/23/2013 7:26 PM (GMT -7)   
For over 3 years I noticed foamy urine off and on. The first time I noticed I went to doc, did a urine sample test and found small traces of urine by nurse. So I was then sent off to have lots of kindey test:

eGFR
MICROALBUMIN/CREATININE
MICROALBUMIN, UR, QN
BUN
BUN-to-creatinine ratio
A1C
Liver Panel
Thyroid Panel
ANA Panel
CBC


This was 3 years ago. And recently had the same test done besides ANA, and all were normal again, even dipstick was normal. He said dipsticks do show false positives. The new MICROALBUMIN/CREATININE and MICROALBUMIN, UR, QN was done on 5/22/13 and again was normal. I even made appoinment with kidney doc and it seemed like he laughed me out of office when I showed him my results. He told me not to ever worry about it. Still I want to know why I still keep getting foamy urine when I dont drink water.

And all were normal. But I still notice lots of bubbles, sometimes it takes less than 2 minutes to go away. It looks foamy. I workout but only drink protein shakes 1-3 a week at most. I'm 31, good

What I noticed:

1. When I drink loads of water, I rarely see any bubbles and do not see any foamy appearance
2. I mainly see foamy appearance in morning
3. When I sit to pee, I see minimal if any bubbles or foamy appearance
4. If I hit the side of toilet I do not see anything


From what I taken, foamy urine is an early sign of kidney damage, proteinuria. However on many forums, many of the responsies to these questions are "GO SEE A DOC, IT'S PROTEIN LEAKING" but all responises are from non medical professionals.

This is what I read so far:
"Far and away, foamy urine is not associated with any abnormality of the kidneys. There are some (I am one of them) who think that the foaming is related to a high velocity of concentrated urine flow and therefore is more of a curiosity than a threat to your health." -Newell R. Falkinburg, M.D., FACP -board certified nephrologist
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Nephrology-975/Proteinuria-Foamy-bubbly-urine.htm

tomjohn
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   Posted 11/29/2013 8:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you ever had a 24-hour urine sample done? I have only shown positive for a trace on the dipsticks once, yet my 24h tests showed 0,3 and 0,2g of protein.
The doctors don't know what's wrong yet.

I too have had very foamy urine, especially in the mornings. When I drank a lot of water it would vary. Same when sitting down.
Never see anything when I pee on the sides either.

However lately it seems like I have much less foamy urine. I only have it in the morning and after a workout. And an occasional random bubbly one(that disappears within 20secs) at times. Other than that I have NO BUBBLES. It might be a fluke, it might mean improvement, I don't know, but I'm exited if it lasts or improves even more. I would suggest you get a 24h urine sample. If that's clean, then you are all good.

From my understanding it can also be from velocity and concentration of the urine (hence the no bubbles when u drink water)

rdafil
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   Posted 2/13/2014 1:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I always have foamy. very foamy like beer on the tap have had 75 dipsticj selftests negative like 15 at doc office 1 lab test at urologist 2 at lab also for bence jones 1 at lab nephrologist 24 hour collection and 1 self test after all completely negative echo 3 times show normal kidney nd blood is normal aswell(checked it at 3 different labs) 5 incl. myself and doc.. 4 more infection screens at lab also negative. Also sometimes ive cloudy without infection and clears with vinegar but the nephrologist told me its zero problem cause urine looks clear on everything they can search. i also had cystoscopie flowmetrie rectal touch.....

Post Edited (rdafil) : 2/14/2014 3:58:00 AM (GMT-7)


tiname
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   Posted 2/27/2014 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Nov of 2013 I noticed foamy urine, but it wasn't until I noticed swelling in my legs that I got concerned. I was told I have MCD Minimal Change Disease....I had to have a kidney biopsy and the only why you can tell what disease you do have, is to have a high powered microscope look at the sample. I was put on steroids 60 mg. At this time I'm slowly tapering down off the steroids. MCD is normally a child's disease, but adults do get it. The only thing in my life that had changed was I got a flu shot 8 weeks before.....(only the 2nd flu shot I had ever received in my life)...and that is what they think triggered my MCD ......I was told by my doctor I am NOT to get a flu shot again.

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   Posted 2/27/2014 4:51 PM (GMT -7)   
tiname

Welcome to Healing Well.

I also can't take the flu shots. My body does all kinds of crazy things if I do.

Take care,
Bill
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hello24
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   Posted 3/8/2014 11:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I had really foamy urine. Make an apppointment with a urologist and had extensive tests done on me to find out what the issue is. The doctor said he found no bacteria in my urine or blood, and that not to worry about it. He is also doing another test to see if foam is being created in my bladder or kidney (I forgot which one). Hope this helps.

lily123
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   Posted 3/25/2014 11:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, spike.
There are lots of reasons caused protein urine. In general, it can divided into physiological proteinuria and pathological proteinuria. The pathological proteinuria usually reflects underlying disease of kidney. You never should ignore the protein urine in the early stage. For example, if there are foam in urine, you should go to hospital to take a test first and find the exact reason of causing foam. Then treat it on time. Most kidney failure patients are caused by ignoring the early symptoms. The whole regulation is quite important, but not focus on controlling protein. The best way to eliminate protein is that standardize life habit and mentality to match pathological treatment of kidney.

goodbo
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   Posted 4/12/2014 7:04 AM (GMT -7)   
I have bubbles in my urine after eat food and when i am in emty stomach i drink plenty of water ther is no bubbles i dont drink( i have sex over )
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