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phndoc
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   Posted 4/21/2011 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone ever had teeth troubles due to lupus? I have cracks in my teeth. I know where most of it comes from but, was told also,  that the lupus can cause part of it.
 
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mscrowbar
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   Posted 4/21/2011 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I was wondering the same thing? I have had lots of new symptoms appear just this past several months and teeth going bad overnite seems to be one of them. I have had two teeth pulled due to them going bad, I have two partial route canals due to an infection that went all the way into my jaw bone ( also had oral surgery to clean out that infection) and just today another tooth broke. I am 50 years old and never had any problems with my teeth until this past December. Yes, all these things happened with my teeth just since then. So, yes, I wonder the same thing?
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Lynnwood
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   Posted 4/21/2011 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Often Lupus is accompanied by a secondary illness, Sjogren's Syndrome. Usually the early symptoms of Sjogren's are either dry mouth or dry eyes. Even if you don't notice a dry mouth, the lack of saliva can contribute to various kinds of teeth decay.
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couchtater
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   Posted 4/21/2011 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
My front teeth have fine cracks in them. Dentist just gives me some crazy explaination about how our teeth are structured and I'm still confused about it.
Joy

phndoc
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   Posted 4/21/2011 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
50 here also, Had to go to the denstisst today. Now, I am in the middle of having two crowns put in. Most, of my issues are coming from griding my teeth. I forgot that they have told me in the past about the cracks....go figure. No, dry mouth for me, but at this time of year....dry eyes all the time.
 
Enjoy what you can today and leave the rest for another day.
 
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jeanneac
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   Posted 4/24/2011 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Ever since I've developed AI issues a few years ago, I've had dental problems galore too. Never had a root canal until then. I just had my 3rd in two years. It gets terribly expensive too!! I don't think my mouth is dry either.
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phndoc
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   Posted 4/24/2011 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
They want $25,000.00, yes I said $25,000.00 to fix my teeth....can youu say NOT!!!!
 
Enjoy what you can today and leave the rest for another day.
 
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suetoo
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   Posted 4/24/2011 1:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi! Everyone,
I was recently at the dentist for the first time in 5 YEARS!! And I have a great dentist. I was lucky! No problems, but he counseled me kindly about the importance of routine care..... he explainded that autoimmune disease can cause inflammation in your gums, and that chronic prednisone use can cause dental problems. Sjogren's Disease, with reduced saliva production is something he also commented on, (that my oral mucous looked nice and moist), my rheumy asks about tears and saliva, too. I made another appt. already. yeah And besides my fear of going, I have metal fillings in just about every tooth, and he reassured me of their safety when I asked about mercury poisoning. I couldn't believe it was that long, but I was working full time, sick all the time, struggling to juggle neuro, rheumy, pcp, and work appts. and had one 1 1/2 year period when I had a dr. appt every 2-3 months. And did I mention sick? I ask friends and family to imagine living daily feeling like you have been slammed by the 'flu and that you can't get over it.
Please don't wait to get dental care, unfortunately, the problem isn't likely to get better.  Hugs, suetoo
ps. many good dentists offer low or no interest payment plans, and could you look into a nearby School of Dentristy? Call several dental offices and ask where the dentist went to school, or ask the receptionist/hygenists for their advice. You should be able to find good quality, completely dentist and education/health dept. supervised care on  the cheap because students are watching, and as their training years increase, doing some of the work. Trust me that the care is of the highest quality. Good Luck and Wellness.

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couchtater
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   Posted 4/24/2011 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
That's a big extraction in the old wallet without the novacain!
Can it be done slowly over time?
Joy

phndoc
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   Posted 4/24/2011 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, but they want me to get a loan for it....I don't think so. My car don't even cost that much. It would be chaper to go to the bar get drunk and have all my teeth knocked out. Atleast I would enjoy the frist part....till I wake up.
 
Enjoy what you can today and leave the rest for another day.
 
Frank
 

couchtater
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   Posted 4/24/2011 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
hahahahahahahahaha!
:-))
Joy

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   Posted 4/25/2011 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I believe I have sjogrens but have not had any official diagnosis yet. (only fibro) My mouth, eyes and "other" areas are very dry. I constantly have a drink on hand and use moisture eye drops every night.

My rheumy knows something is going on but because all the blood work is coming up negative or inconclusive, he will not/has not given any real diagnosis yet. He has started me on prednisone which seems to be helping with the muscle ache/burn but the dry eyes/mouth are still a big problem. I see him again on the 9th of may. I will go over the possibility of lupus/sjogrens with him. (I think he is waiting to see how I do on the prednisone, and what the blood work says (haven't gotten it yet), its additional to the normal tests he has already ran.)
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GARDEN CHEF
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   Posted 1/19/2012 12:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow... so that's what's going on! In the last two years I've had 2 root canals, 3 implants, 5 crowns and numerous fillings. Prior to that it was a healthy mouth. All of a sudden I had a mouth full of crumbling teeth. Lupus, You are an evil invader.

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   Posted 1/19/2012 5:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Lupus can affect your teeth and gums and so can meds, particularly prednisone.  Make sure you see your dentist regularly and let him know what you have and what meds you take.
 
Dental care is very expensive.  I just had 2 implants and 2 crowns and 2 other crowns replaced due to the implants.  It was probably more money than I have spent on dental care in 50 years total but when all done, great.  Just try not to think of the great vacation or new furniture that would have bought.
 
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   Posted 1/20/2012 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had lots of dental work done (roughly 3 grand in year and half) and need some more done but I think its because growing up as a kid I never went to dentist because no one took me. Honestly most of my work has been cavities so its my fault it has cost so much because my dentist is abit pricey but atleast he serves wine and cookies in the waiting room!  

One of my issues though excluding teeth is that I have inflamation in my gums. No matter what I do it wont go away. Then I have to hear the person cleaning my teeth complain I dont brush properly. I mean its not that hard I floss, brush front of teeth, back of teeth, gums and use special mouthwash twice a day what more am I suppose to do????? I wonder if the inflamation is due to lupus? I have lots of issues with inflamation.
 
PHNDOC: Are there any dental clinics near you who will do it at little or no cost? 25,000 dollars is alot of money its awful how expensive health care/ dental care is. Dental schools also do dental procedures at a discount. I wonder if there is any way you can get on a discount dental plan? Type in google discount dental plans and it should bring up a site that will list differnt plans. Be sure to read what dentist you can see and what it covers. For these plans you have to pay a monthly fee anywhere from 10-50 per month but it greatly brings down the cost of dental procedures and its much cheaper than dental insurance. Make sure you check into the plan company also though before signing up if you decide to go that route.

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couchtater
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   Posted 1/20/2012 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anybody tried the biotein products?
I've started using the gel goop before bedtime because my dentist suggested it. It's kind of nasty to me, but I don't wake up with my lips stuck together anymore.
Joy

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   Posted 1/20/2012 8:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I've used the Biotene family of products since 2002 when my rheumy suggested them. www.biotene.com The mouthwash I find very helpful with dry mouth, the others I use off & on.

They are definitely worth a trial run before you try to address things with adding more medications to the mix!
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Bsime
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   Posted 1/20/2012 10:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I have used biotene mouth wash for years due to having geographic tongue.  Neither my doctors nor dentist can say if that is related to my AI diseases but it appeared about a year after I got sick.  Biotene is much gentler on that.  I also use a toothpast for sensitive teeth but it is Crest not Biotene.
 
Bill

phndoc
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   Posted 1/26/2012 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
WOW!!!, I have to check on that. I don't know if, I told you all or not. But, I have lost my job in Nov. It's been okay, I have been able to oget some healing in my body. I look forward to see what God has plan.
 
Enjoy what you can today and leave the rest for another day.
 
Frank
 

JustChattin
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   Posted 1/27/2012 1:24 AM (GMT -6)   
I too have mouth and teeth problems and hate to admit it, but haven't been to dentist for 5 years :( I guess I am doctored out... I seem to have dry mouth and get bouts of thrush quite often...
Cathy

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   Posted 1/27/2012 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
If you take prednisone, even a low dose it is almost impossible to control thrush infections. I have had one in my esophagus for 6 years but stopped taking pred last july.  Will have another endoscopy in March and hope that shows it under control.
 
Bill

livenlaugh
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   Posted 1/27/2012 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
My dentist told me NOT to use Biotene.

Lynnwood
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   Posted 1/28/2012 12:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Did your dentist say why not to use it? That seems very strange...
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