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couchtater
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   Posted 3/19/2014 1:35 AM (GMT -6)   
For a few days now I've been having increased pain in my hands when I use them. My left hand (dominate hand) has been making popping noises in the knuckles when I make a fist. It's prone to swelling and stiffness.

Today I noticed a small knot developing on my ring finger at the second joint. It hurts to bend that finger any time but especially in the mornings when I first wake up.

Does lupus cause this or am I'm developing arthritis? My mother has it in her hands and the knot looks like her fingers. smhair
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

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Bsime
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   Posted 3/19/2014 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Lupus is a rheumatic disease and attacks the joints. It also seems to aggravate osteoarthritis for some. Others can have an overlap of RA. You should talk to your rheumy about it if the swelling and pain do not subside in a week or so. You might also try to take some type of NSAID and see if that gives you relief.

I get arthritic pain in many different places including my hands and feet.

If your doc suspects RA he will order blood tests for it to differentiate between osteo and RA.

Bill
MCTD (SLE Lupus, polymyositis, scleroderma). Diagnosed 2005. Kidney, liver, GI tract, dysphagia, raynauds, barretts esophagus, quadriplegic in 2005. Recovered and now active in downhill skiing, golf, hiking. Meds: amlodipine, benezapril, omeprazole, potassium, folic acid, vitamins, maxide.

Remain Optimistic and you can overcome.

oreo11
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   Posted 3/19/2014 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joy,

I have a number of issues with the joints in both hands, including knots and small deformities in the joints of my fingers. My Rheumatologist said that it was Osteoarthritis made worse by having Lupus. I am having the same issues in my spine. The hands can be awfully painful at times, especially the small protrusions in the finger joints. They are definitely worse when the weather is damp and cold. I am on Prednisone, which helps. Can't take any NSAIDS, but I do get some relief from Tylenol Arthritis.

Laura

couchtater
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   Posted 3/19/2014 10:20 PM (GMT -6)   
My kidney doctor told me to avoid all NSAIDs so I'm stuck there.

He did call in a predisone pack until he comes off vacation.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

couchtater
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   Posted 3/28/2014 11:59 PM (GMT -6)   
The predisone pack calmed down my hands until today. :-(
They have started back being swollen and tight.

One thing I noticed while I was on the predisone my sore shoulder that has bothered me for three months felt better. Also the strange rash on my scalp and side of my face vanished. Now that the pack has ended it's back again. I guess I'll be calling the rheumy again. :-(
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

jan1952
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   Posted 3/29/2014 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Joy, I'm so sorry for your additional pains and popping noises! As Laura mentioned, I have also found that really, really cold or rainy weather has a tendency to make my osteoarthritis worse; otherwise, give me chilly weather any day over heat. I do not have arthritis in my hands, but since your mom does, so follows her daughter?

Glad you were able to gain some temporary relief while your doctor was away.

Jan
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

jan1952
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   Posted 3/29/2014 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Joy, I wish I could retract my question about mother/daughter patterns (in my previous post). I began thinking about my mother passing away from lupus complications at age 53 (in 1979), and I know that she and I were as different as night and day personality-wise and in so many other ways, including health.

Each one of us is an individual with a different story to tell. At times, there might be similarities between family members, but we have to go by our own symptoms and gut feelings.

Thinking about you--
Jan
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

couchtater
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   Posted 3/29/2014 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm fine with the genetic possibilities. I've inherited my grandfather's benign tremors, and my Uncles and Aunts hearing problems.
My mother has diabetes and my sister has it too. My niece has tested positive for an autoimmune disease but so far no symptoms yet.

RA also runs though my father's side of the family.

You just never know what life will deal you.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

sallya
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   Posted 3/29/2014 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
lupus and ra has its ups and downs iv been throughing up alot and ankles omg pain, i pray alot

jan1952
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   Posted 4/5/2014 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Joy, I was web surfing last night and came across something called "trigger finger." It reminded me of the symptoms you had described. Are you familiar with it?

Jan

couchtater
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   Posted 4/5/2014 4:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I've heard of it. Doesn't that happen from repeative motion with that finger? This is my ring finger. It doesn't do repeative motion....
Joy
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When life throws you lemons....
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jan1952
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   Posted 4/5/2014 10:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joy--

Here's the site that I checked out although there are plenty others. Go to the second page for symptoms, and let me know what you think. . . .

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/trigger-finger/basics/definition/con-20043819

Jan
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

couchtater
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   Posted 4/5/2014 10:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Most of those symptoms don't match. The bump doesn't hurt to touch. It just makes the finger harder to bend tightly. The popping is in my fist knuckles. The bump is located at the second joint. The finger doesn't lock up or pop, just painful to bend fully.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

jan1952
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   Posted 4/5/2014 10:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay. Thanks for letting me know. I sure do hope you find out what it is and soon!

Jan
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

MomIsAMess
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   Posted 4/6/2014 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
couchtater, your symptoms are exactly why I ended up at a RA in the first place. I was diagnosed on my first visit. Ya, I feel your pain...literally. As for prednisone? no comment. ESSENTAIL OILS See about looking on line. Brand products like Doterra have a blend which is AWESOME!!!! It is called "Deep Blue". The equivelants: Butterfly Express (just started using their oils, a little more concentrated means you use less) "LeDeeper", Young Living is "Deep Relief", Rocky Mountain oils is "Relieve". Deep Blue consists of Camphor oil, Peppermint, Blue Tansy, German Chamomile, Helichrysum and Osmanthus oils. It is probably less expensive to buy a blend than to experiment with trying to recreate it with individual oils. Honestly I am not a sales rep, I don't get some sort of kickback I am just another Lupie who looks for relief anywhere I can find it. There have been moments I've given up the pain is so bad but I look in my little boys eyes and he keeps me fighting.
Maryann

Chronic Pain, Diabetic, Asthma, Disabled, Lupus;
peripheral neuropathy, Raynauds, fibromialgia, fevers, severe allergies, memory loss and depression

couchtater
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   Posted 4/7/2014 12:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Maryann, I'm allergic to perfumes so I have to be very careful with my scents. I'm scared those oils will make me have a reaction.
I'm glad you're able to fine something to help you.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

Barbara Lee
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   Posted 4/8/2014 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Joy:

I'm sorry to hear that you're having issues with your fingers and hands. It's a real bummer I know, as I have RA in addition to my lupus and Fibro. My Rheumy kept insisting that I didn't have RA even tho my RA factor was elevated. I finally talked him into an MRI of my hand that was the worse, and lo and behold there it showed up.

They could see on the MRI my joint changing shape from the RA. So, he officially said I have RA and they actually started me on Remicade for treatment. Even though I was taking MTX at that time too. I took the Remicade for like 6 months and my RA factor became negative. My thumb on my bad hand stopped hurting and I was doing well. I stopped the Remicade and was doing pretty good. I stopped the Remicade in 2012, well I'm now back to having serious pain in the thumb joint. Rheumy just ordered x-rays of the hands again.

Maybe you could ask if your Dr would order an MRI, that will show if you're suffering damage from RA. I hope that you find something that helps with the pain. I recently purchased a paraffin wax machine and boy it sure helps with my joint pain in my hands and feet. I purchased my at the military base on sale for $29.99. Maybe, you could look into getting one of those and trying it. If you want to go and get a manicure first with a paraffin wax treatment I would and see how it makes you feel.

Hope you start to feel better soon.

Hugs,
Barbara
DX- RA, Lupus, Fibro, LGL Leukemia, Obstructive & Central Sleep Apnea, Pulmonary Hypertension, Bells Palsy, Gastroparsis, Blood Clots, Glaucoma, Chronic Pericarditis & Pleurisy, Severe Anemia. Way to many medications to list.

couchtater
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   Posted 4/9/2014 2:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I've been eyeing one of those wax things lately but they just see so expensive right now with my tight budget.
I'm trying to save up enough to go visit my niece in Missippissi. She's getting married in August on the beach.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

acquiesce
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   Posted 4/9/2014 8:00 AM (GMT -6)   
What about a gently used one Joy? Is there a classifieds section you could check out?
UCTD , livedo reticularis, Raynauds, cold urticaria, endometriosis, bursitis, arthritis, Sjorgens, anemia, leukocytosis, vasculitis, pleurisy, asthma and all that fun stuff!

Plaquenil, celebrex, advair, flovent, dovobet, vitamin A,B,C,D,E fghijklmnop ;)

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couchtater
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   Posted 4/9/2014 3:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't buy a newspaper.
My budget is very tight so I have to squeeze Old Abe until he pleds for mercy.
Joy
Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, OA, Depression, Allergies, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

Lynnwood
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   Posted 4/9/2014 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Your public library should have the local paper and you can read it for free! Alternatively, look for it online. You can also find classifieds thru www.craigslist.com. Also look at local swapmeets and/or fleamarkets
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