Safe months to venture out and do some yardwork?

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sandrina2
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   Posted 12/2/2008 11:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I have lived in Connecticut at the same suburban location for over 40 years without having a tick problem. However, last summer I pulled over 7 ticks off my body. My doctor gave me medication to take after each tick bite to ward off Lyme disease. As a result of this onslaught of ticks, I was unable to do any gardening. Now it's December, and I'd like to know if it's safe to venture into my wooded yard to do some much needed cleanup? Are there any safe months?

dorit
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   Posted 12/2/2008 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
depends on how cold it is outside;

dorit
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   Posted 12/2/2008 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
..ups..and i missed the rest of what i wanted to reply -sorry! I heard from the vet that they can still be active at about 10°C (must be about 50°F if i am correct); hope that they are at least slower at this low tem. and less bloodthirsty.

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   Posted 12/2/2008 11:43 AM (GMT -7)   

After seeing all the stories of what everyone has gone through on this site and others. Being ignored by dr's and made fun of by family members, dwindling finances, pain and suffering. I would not venture into the woods ever again.

I'd just ignore the garden or eradicate all the plants with herbicide. Then i'd sit inside looking out the window and tell people. "That is where the garden and woods used to be."

Of course, that is just what i would do if i lived in your state.

A more realistic non alarmist approach: Keep a look out for ticks all over your body and check thoroughly when you go back indoors. Some on here could advise you of repellent options. The ticks could even sit on your clothes waiting and climb back on your skin for another blood sucking chance if you put those clothes back on without washing. And I have no clue if a tick can survive a cycle through a washing machine. I never tried it. Keep doxycycline on hand and be prepared to take some if you find a tick dug into your skin or experience any strange symptoms. If you do experience strange accumulating symptoms then seek out a lyme knowledgable dr and don't take no for an answer. Also be cautious of biting flies, horse flies and mosquitos. We don't have definit answers about what all tranmits lyme and co-infections. Better safe than sorry.


phsinvent
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   Posted 12/2/2008 11:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry i didn't read your post correctly. You are talking about venturing out in the december. I don't see too many concerns with going out there now.

dorit
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   Posted 12/2/2008 6:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I wonder if ticks have any natural enemies at all which are able to digest them completely without getting lyme themselves (and then be only another vector for the disease);

phsinvent, I heard about the horse flies and the mosquito, but I was also reading about some mites too, Trombiculidae and also Neotrombicula autumnalis (<--this one apparently only in germany) have you heard about them too ?? do you know more??

Minx
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   Posted 12/2/2008 8:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Sandrina2

I lived in Connecticut for 38 years. Now I am in Maryland--which I honestly find a much higher deer population in residential neighborhoods. Connecticut at least has densely wooded areas. To see a deer in CT was like "wow a deer" and here there are easily 30 living in my back yard and walking around my neighborhood that I see daily.

The last 10 years in Ct I had a dog and would bring him to a park in Cheshire for walking/hiking and swimming. One year in December, I did not even take the dog into the woods, we stayed in the open field (although woods on the periphery) and my dog got a tick. I don't know for sure, but I honestly think you can get a tick any time of the year. I read about people getting them from Christmas trees!

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Joanne A
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   Posted 12/2/2008 11:16 PM (GMT -7)   
There is some kind of hen that will eat ticks. Sorry, but I forgot the kind.

Also, washing clothes does not kill ticks. Putting your clothes in a dryer on high for 15 minutes will.

I pulled a deer tick off my daughter in January one year. It was adult size and the chances of it carrying
lyme was far greater since it was an adult. It can be very cold but one warm day and they can be out again.

JELAINEP
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   Posted 12/3/2008 1:39 AM (GMT -7)   
You know, I used to think because we take so many abx's, that if there was ever I giant anthrax attack the last things living would be cock roaches and us!...... now with our luck the only things left living would be us, the cock roaches and the ticks! rolleyes shakehead eyes shakehead rolleyes
We'll get through today - Jennifer
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, 08/25/08 - 10 weeks of IV Rocephin, my first visit to a Pain Mgmt. dr. - she was non-judgemental and will not prescribe me any "opiates" which in the end, is probably a good thing.  Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Rozerem 8mg, Darvocet, Acidophilus, Rifampin 600mg, Levaquin 500mg, Lyrica 150 to 300mg,
Medicare/SSDI theme song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w 
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs
 


seeingstars
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   Posted 12/3/2008 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Phsinvent and JELAINEP your humorous approach has made me smile this morning.


Thank you

alfers
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   Posted 12/3/2008 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   
sandrina2,
I think frosts usually kill ticks, but people have found them in all sorts of weather. There's a product you can treat your clothes with that will kill ticks on contact. It's pretty toxic and harsh, but it should protect you from ticks while you're gardening. It's called Permethrin (I think you can find it online and maybe at Wal-Mart??) You spray it on your clothes, let them dry for a couple hours, and then those clothes are good for a few washes, I believe (read the directions). This might be a good solution for you if you want to continue gardening and not be so worried about ticks. But make sure you cover up! Wear a hat, gloves (if you can), etc., and treat everything with the Permethrin!
Good luck.
Lyme and co-infections since approximately 2002. Diagnosed in 2005. Treated for two years solid. Diagnosed with Lymphomatoid Papulosis in October 2007. Currently back on abx.

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hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 12/3/2008 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   
phsinvent - 15 minutes in a hot dryer kills the ticks. So why not toss your clothes in there after coming inside?

I use DEET when I walk -- and I still walk in some places where there could be ticks -- even with Lyme disease. I just can't stop living!!!

I check myself for ticks but I have long hair and I worry about that.

I also swim and sauna. Will that help?

sandrina2
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   Posted 12/4/2008 3:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks to all for the very helpful replies. I never expected such an immediate response -and so thorough!!

phsinvent
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   Posted 12/4/2008 9:18 AM (GMT -7)   

That's a good idea with the dryer. I live in a rather city setting and all my exposure came from my days in the woods from early childhood to my mid 20's. I don't care to go into the woods anymore after what I went through with this garbage.

I guess i came from the generation that actually played out in the woods because no playstation or xbox existed back then. However we did spend the whole winter indoors playing the commodore 64. Anyways, i'm not surprised i caught something. I even remember as i got older we still went into the woods, except it was in a jeep wrangler with no doors on. We had so much fun driving through the tall fields and i remember how all sorts of bugs would land on us and the tall grass smacked out legs. To top that off, most of the jobs in my early teens consisted of cutting down trees in the deep woods for my cousin.


JELAINEP
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   Posted 12/4/2008 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I just saw a vet commecial for the anti-flee, etc. stuff that you put on your pets' necks..... and they said you had to keep putting it on your pets, even iin the winter, for things like ringworm, Lyme disease, etc".

I couldn't believe it. When/if congress ever has the Lyme hearing.... they should probably include a Vet as an exxpert!
We'll get through today - Jennifer
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, 08/25/08 - 10 weeks of IV Rocephin, my first visit to a Pain Mgmt. dr. - she was non-judgemental and will not prescribe me any "opiates" which in the end, is probably a good thing.  Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Rozerem 8mg, Darvocet, Acidophilus, Rifampin 600mg, Levaquin 500mg, Lyrica 150 to 300mg,
Medicare/SSDI theme song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w 
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs
 

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