I have overgrowth of Clostridial Species......

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Freakzilla154L
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   Posted 12/20/2008 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone,

I just had an organix test done not to long ago that test for various vitamins, bacteria, yeast in the body through urine sample. It's very expensive but reliable and accurate. Well, I always thought I had yeast, but my markers all came back perfect except for one.... I was 130 times over in clostridial species, which is a intestinal bacterial overgrowth, that is deadly and can release awful toxins. Now, I dont see my doc til this upcoming monday. However, he said, definitely no yeast, which is great, b/c this can mimic the symptoms and I thought thats what I had for the last 2 years. This is similiar it seems, but not certain yet.


My doc has never seen this in a patient and can't believe the numbers. He believes this is the root cause of my Ulcerative colitis/proctitis, skin problems, and various other problems, b/c everything else is perfect. By the way, I have had extensive blood, urine, and stool testing done. This is the only markers to be out of range and especially at those numbers. I do have slightly elevated mercury levels, but not too high.

Well, there was an exact marker that showed up on the test to determine this bacterial overgrowth. I don't have my result papers with me. But its 3,4 dehy.... its very long. I will repost later with the exact name, but it indicates that it in the clostridial family. It's really amazing how they determine this.

Ok, so I looked on the internet and theres not much info on this or treatment. Does anyone have any knowledge on this bacteria and treatment. Has anyone ever had this? My doc said will talk about treatment. He said he's amazed though b/c in his 35 years of practice, he's never seen this in anyone. So, please posts with thoughts and suggestions. I will not take anything until I'm knowledgeable about it. Thank you!

Razzle
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   Posted 12/20/2008 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
So is this Clostridium Difficile or a different clostridium bacteria?

In any case, I would suggest consulting a Naturopathic Physician - they are more experienced in eradication of pathogenic bacteria than the usual physician.

Mercury may be elevated due to sequestration by the infectious bacteria (this is one theory anyway)...get rid of the bacteria, and the mercury may decrease.

Good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Anemia, Lymphopenia, intermittant Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-J Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, Vitamin B12 Shots, Heparin (to flush PICC line).


kandinsky
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   Posted 12/21/2008 10:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I had the organics comprehensive done at one point and other testing from the same lab. Although expensive, I think that they are quite good. That is really remarkable that your results were so good on all the other markers - it is very very uncommon. I hope that treating this clears up all of your other conditions like your dr things. I think it is possible.

I remember your posts looking for someone to treat your yeast. I'm glad that you finally figured out what it is. I was also chasing yeast for some time (in addition to lyme) and then from a metametrix test learned that it was something else.

I was also off on the same marker and my dr (who is integrative) recommended to me oregacillin (oil of oregano, brand was oregamax). You need something antibacterial and also a lot of probiotics.

Freakzilla154L
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   Posted 12/21/2008 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Kardinsky,

What marker were you off on? I have a feeling he's gonna put me on some antibiotics for this along with probiotics. I have too much of this stuff not to be put on something to help wipe some out! I go tomorrow, so I will keep everyone posted. Thanks!

Freakzilla154L
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   Posted 12/25/2008 9:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone,

I know it's been about 6 days or so, but I went to my docs appt and he gave me a few options. I am currently on 250 mg of Flagyl every 8 hours for 14 days. We are trying this to see how my body reacts, whether its a positive way, or negative. Either way, we both know the Flagyl will wipe out all the flora in my gut, the good and bad. So, after the 14 days, start up on probiotics, through yogurt, kefir, and taking supplements probiotics too.

My doc spoke with the lab tech who did my study and I have the email response the lab sent to my doc. She said I must take Saccharomyces boulardii, which is a probiotic. So, we will definitely do that once I'm done this course of flagyl.

Also, my doc ordered a stool speciment for c.diff and a few other things on Monday morning before I started the flagyl (I started the Flagyl on Tuesday). We are trying to find out the exact type of bacteria I have in the clostridial species. There are 150 different species. He is not sure which species I have, so maybe the stool speciment will identify that; however, we used quest diagnostics. There are not a great lab. So well will see... It may take some time, but I feel good about this. At least we found something..... Now we have to go further into it! Thanks everyone!

rk8950
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   Posted 12/29/2008 4:01 PM (GMT -7)   
freak,
  could you please tell me where you got these test done at?
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