Do you ever test negative ??

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janem
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   Posted 1/13/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Since the Western Blot relies on antibodies , is the result of this blood test going to be positive for months or even years after the last significant Lyme symptom ??
 
Anyone thoughts on this?
 
I have had repeat H Pylori blood test positives , despite three years on ABX : and am going to take the breath test for active infection next week, since I have never had an H Pylori symptom - and would like to stop taking the proton pump inhibitors( they give me headaches)
 
All my other co-infections and problems finally test negative ( Ehrlichia , babs , bart , Mycoplasma , TB ) : but my Lyme western blot continues to be very positive despite a vast reduction in symptoms . I would hate to continue taking the huge amounts of ABX if indeed I am "better"?
 
I wonder if there is another test , like in the case of H Pylori , that tests for "active" infection rather than historic exposure ? Anyone comment?

dorit
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   Posted 1/13/2009 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
there is igm and igg testing with westernblot; igg can remain positive for a long time ( even years) no matter if someone recovered from lyme quickly with no symptoms left ( or may not even have noticed the infection), has suffered long or got chronic lyme. Igm titers do refer to an active infection, Igg shows up later and remain there for longer.
may be some of the others can explain this more in detail. dorit

janem
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   Posted 1/13/2009 10:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Dorit ! I continue to test +ve on both ...just about every band despite being so much better .

SickInCT
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   Posted 1/14/2009 6:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Lyme testing is VERY inaccurate, both the WB and Elisa. I am tired of people being misinformed or not told about this. I am going to start a new thread on it, I have extensive sources.

dorit
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   Posted 1/14/2009 4:07 PM (GMT -7)   
hi janem! I heard about a few people still having a positive igm in westernblod after long treatment with abx and no symtoms left; all a miracle, this disease and as sickinct said a lot of things may interfere with those testing methods ...you said you tested positive for heliobacter too without having symptoms. do you see a llmd? maybe its worth a try to go without abx if you feel much better now.
I' ll keep you in my thoughts and hope that you can stop taking abx as soon as possible! dorit

janem
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   Posted 1/14/2009 5:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Dorit and sickinct. I am a scientist , so have researched the (in)accuracy of all the Lyme tests - just wondered if there was a new wonder test out there that I didn't know about , as in the case of H Pylori . Seems not . I guess I will have to go on how I feel rather then the tests . ( I do however "believe" the CD 57 test is a decent indicator : mine was 2 when I started therapy 3.5 years ago : its now 45 ( woohoo) ....I suppose I should stick with the program until it climbs. ( NB Have tried ALL immune boosting stuff I can find ...without much impact)

SickInCT
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   Posted 1/14/2009 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
janem said...
Thanks Dorit and sickinct. I am a scientist , so have researched the (in)accuracy of all the Lyme tests - just wondered if there was a new wonder test out there that I didn't know about


Actually there is, being a scientist you will appreciate it. It's called Live Blood Analysis. Using a high power darkfield microscope you should be able to visibly view the Lyme Spirochete in the blood. I would not trust it to rule out Lyme (because it can also hide in other parts of the body or in cyst form) but instead it is a good tool to confirm it. I had it done and was amazed at what I saw. If you goto youtube.com and type in "Lyme Microscope" you will be able to see what I am talking about. There is only one other type of bacteria that will look like this and that is syphilis. Syphilis is a cousin to Lyme and will actually cause the same exact symptoms in late stage so make sure you have been tested for it as well. If you view your blood and your looking at your red and white blood cells let it sit under the microscope for about 10 minutes. As the cells start to dry up the Spirochete should come swimming out angry and looking for a new host!!

Post Edited (SickInCT) : 1/14/2009 8:13:21 PM (GMT-7)

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