GW Bush diagnosed with Lyme. . .

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nefferdun
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   Posted 1/16/2009 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
This information was in the book Beating Lyme by Constance Bean.  It was announced in August 2007 that Bush had been infected the previous year, had the rash and was given ABX.  You know the CDC guidlines does not allow long term abx care so it was proabably a short course.  After this Bush was treated for various complaints including vertigo, ataxia, ringing in the ears etc. and like most of us, given other diagnosis for the complaints.
 
A few days ago during his last press conference, Bush told a reporter that she would have to remind him of her 3 questions explaining how a person's memory declines with age.  I have the same declining memory and the exact same symptoms as Bush.  I was even given the same misdiagnosis by various doctors.  Thank Goodness I was not running the country for the last two years!  I hope that if he is still sick, he gets help. 

JELAINEP
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   Posted 1/16/2009 5:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I wouldn't be surprised if he's been on abx's non-stop since the bite.... with about the same success as the rest of us.

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SickInCT
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   Posted 1/16/2009 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
GW Bush

rolleyes mad

ticker
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   Posted 1/16/2009 6:35 PM (GMT -7)   
From what I remember about this, I believe his doctor consulted with a Lyme doctor.
 

JELAINEP
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   Posted 1/16/2009 7:11 PM (GMT -7)   
.... I wonder if his symptoms will flare up again?
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3 Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Rozerem 8mg, Darvocet, Acidophilus, Rifampin 600mg, Levaquin 500mg, Lyrica 150 to 300mg, Skelexa, Restoril
Medicare/SSDI theme song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w 
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs
 


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 1/16/2009 7:14 PM (GMT -7)   
His doctor called my doctor. That's a true story. And, you can believe he got six months worth of ABX. Probably doxy 200mgs a day. He seems fine to me as far as I can tell.

Like most, I believe his policies failed; but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get treated.

Anyways, if HE got six months, why didn't I?

afterall "...all men are created equal."

Right?

nefferdun
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   Posted 1/16/2009 8:42 PM (GMT -7)   

Wow, that is really interresting.  He got different treatment than the rest of the poor people suffering in this country!   So he knows that he is sick with lyme, his mind is probably affected (just like mine) and he did not step down from office.  Meanwhile we have slid into the worst economic disaster since the great depression.  If he is like me, he could recover from the dizziness and other physical problems but his brain would remain foggy - as though entering a state of dementia.  All I have to do is imagine myself running the country, and that is pretty scary.  But he will be out next week.

He should have been given more than 200 mg of Doxy a day.  Burrascano recommends 300-600 mg.


sojourner
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   Posted 1/17/2009 12:57 AM (GMT -7)   

Latest news from USA TODAY

12/22/2008 02:32 PM

"President George W. Bush has had an MRI of his left shoulder in an attempt to understand why he has experienced pain recently."

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How many patients who are now informed about the truth of Lyme disease trusted what they were told, surrendered to a treatment protocol b/c 'it is 'SOP" Standard Operating Procedure for Lyme based on the ID guidelines', yet went on to suffer believing they had addressed the problem. 

ILAD was consulted covertly re: President Bush's contraction of Lyme and the rash that subsequently developed along with the flu-like symptoms.  It was later, when the news released the facts that it confirmed for this ILAD physician that he had been contacted and queried on behalf of the President.  He was not informed at the time of the reason for the inquiry.

"White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said Bush's treatment was not disclosed earlier because it happened after his last physical, on Aug. 1, 2006. He said doctors decided not to perform blood tests for Lyme disease because the treatment worked for the one area where the president experienced a rash, and he never progressed to other symptoms or saw a recurrence."

"It was a rash," Stanzel said. "It's not uncommon for the president to have tick bites when he's out biking.  Bush was treated for what his doctors described as "early, localized Lyme disease" last August (06) after developing the characteristic bullseye rash. The doctors said he has had no recurrence."

"A total of 11 doctors were involved in the exams, overseen by White House physician Richard Tubb and Dr. Kenneth Cooper, the president of The Cooper Aerobics Center in Dallas. The group included skin, hearing, eye, heart, neurological and sports medicine specialists.

Each signed a statement saying that "within the scope of my specialty" he found Bush "fit for duty" with the expectation that he will remain so for the duration of his presidency _ standard language used after presidential physicals."

As Lyme patients and families, we have faced judgment as a majority in this disease much like no other.  Conflict of interest, political confusion and bad behavior fuel the ongoing reasons why this could happen to even the President.  The president, as intelligent, informed or uninformed he may be about this disease does seem to be suffering on some level.  It was recently reported that he continues to have 'bouts' of mild dizziness and those seasonal allergies.  He is trusting what his advisors and medical team are telling him.  They are afterall, considered 'top physicians' in the country.  How many of us trusted our doctors, who, whether innocent, scared, proud or arrogant - missed the diagnosis, treated improperly or not at all.

We do not know how long nor with what medication Pres. Bush was treated.  This has not been disclosed to the public yet.

I am personally concerned that the President has been mis-informed and that he does continue to suffer from this hideous nightmare.  He will in time know the truth.  He will be out of the 'bubble' soon and if this truly is indicative of ongoing Lyme disease, will know soon enough.

I wrote a letter of respect and concern to the White House, to his attention and included vital references related to science, protocol, legislation and legal matters.  It was faxed directly to his scheduler and delivered to his aides.  Did he see it?   ???

But, it was done b/c of the appearance of and concern for a potential hidden pathogen that just may need more attention.  Imagine if we all wrote.  If the letter was intercepted, no problem.  Nothing ventured, nothing gained.  I'll just do it again - only this time to a Texas address. 

Keeping Hope: Unless your doctors are using diagnostic codes that are not reflecting Lyme; IOW if the doc is reporting Lyme, it is your insurance carrier and location.  You are blessed.

Blessings,  Sojourner

Post Edited (sojourner) : 1/17/2009 10:51:32 PM (GMT-7)


bcaring
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   Posted 1/17/2009 7:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Sojourner,

WOW -it is such a pleasure to read your excellent writing. Do you write professionally?

My heart opened wide when I read of your attempts to inform the president. I did not vote for him but he is being treated as many of us were treated - with ignorance and sometimes arrogance. It is inexcusable with all the scientific information available today.

Thank you for your thoughts.
Beth

nefferdun
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   Posted 1/17/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for that input Sojourner.
One correction - To quote Constance Bean's book, she writes, " In August, 2007, the White House announced that President George W. Bush had Lyme the prededing year. He experienced a red rash with a light center below his left knee. He was treated, although the amount of medication given was not disclosed. . " That came from the New York Times. You thought he was infected and treated in 2007.
I agree with you that he is still sick and does not know it as his doctors are probably following CDC guidelines. I am confused that his doctors consulted with ILAD but evidently did not give him the recommended treatment as he is still sick. If he had been given 2 months of doxy while he had the rash, he probably would have been all right. Why would his doctors consult experts they had no intention of listening too? Was Bush informed of the descrepancy in lyme treatment so that he could make an informed decision about what he wanted to do? He is the President. You would think that he would be informed! Is he one of those people that doesn't ask questions of the "experts"?
I remember it being mentioned in the news that Bush visited soldiers in Walter Reed Hospital and while he was there had a MRI for his shoulder but nothing was found to be wrong.

kitty9309
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   Posted 1/17/2009 9:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I would love to talk to him. I have the same dizziness.

I also feel like him when he gives a speach and can't come up with the appropriate word.

Maybe once he is in Texas, someone can get through to him. Still difficult, I know, but...
14 years undiagnosed Lyme. I had a bulls-eye rash following a camping trip to NC in 1994. Swollen knees and replapsing and remitting vertigo followed for the next 14 years. All Lyme tests negative. Could possibly be B. lonestari due to being bit in the South.
Just began treatment with low dose Minocycline and Benicar.


sojourner
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   Posted 1/17/2009 10:56 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Nefferdun.  That's what I get for writing at 2am.  And it is confusing, isn't it?  ILAD consulted and perhaps in agreement w/early localized Lyme.  Perhaps they listened to the dosage recommendation or perhaps not.  The IDSA is known as the author of the treatment guidelines.  Much power and influence.

Hi Beth - always good to chat w/you.  No I am not a pro-writer.  Just me.

Kitty, I hope so to.  I pray so!
 
 
Take care,
Blessings,  Sojourner
 

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 1/18/2009 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Poor Bush...look at the bright side. He will be able to use Lyme for his excuse for doing such a terrible job. Lol
What war? Who? 750 Billion what?
He is my fellow Texan and yes I voted for him. Sorry.
One day when I walked out of the grocery store....like a drunk of course. I could not remember what I drove...so I just stood there..and did my best' George Bush', squinting into the sun light...until...at last the grocery boy pointed to my car.
Of course he got it on his ranch. Hunting birds.
And of course they are going to hide it from everyone and say he is fine. I am sure that all of the Dr.s around him are devout New England Journal of medicine followers and graduates of Harvard. None of this people are going to take this oop. to help the general public. Are you kidding? This would mean that they piss off all of their big buddies who run the HMO's and Blue Cross and the rest of them.
Darn my x husband had dinner with him weeks ago . I should have had him ask him about his lyme. But then again. Bush does not know anything.
I am just waiting for the news to come out and say that the insurance companies need to be bailed out too. That there CEO's are not making enough money and that thier profits are low...and that they too....need 300 Billion in order to keep going.
:P
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


nefferdun
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   Posted 1/18/2009 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
According to what was published about his lyme, which isn't much, he got bitten while riding his bicycle at Camp David. Maybe that was just speculation so as not to have to admit that lyme exists in other places.
I have his same symptoms which is why I can tell just how sick the poor man really is. I get the dizziness and forgetfulness - atribute it to age, and also can't find my car or even remember if I am driving a car. I get black outs losing minutes of time - what was I doing, what just happened. . . I have had parts of my body so painful and sore that I thought I might have bursitis, tendonitis, arthritis. . .

I will join all of you to write him and warn him that he needs more treatment. It probably won't get through but we can try. Maybe if there was a huge outpouring of mail, someone would notice.

Cheezhead
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   Posted 1/18/2009 8:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Maybe someone could send him a copy of Under our skin. I wonder if he has seen it?
 
 


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 1/19/2009 11:47 AM (GMT -7)   
I wonder if he knows how to work the VCR....:>)
I am annoyed too....lol
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Life'sRhythm
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   Posted 1/19/2009 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey, I'm a newbie, but with all the reading I have done, (and I still know a tidbit of what is out there), it seems so many assume they get rid of Lyme but don't. If symptoms disappear, it could just mean the bacteria went dormant, right! Can you tell me how many people actually do get rid of this bacteria, or do you believe it is always with you and you really never get rid of it???

sojourner
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   Posted 1/19/2009 10:48 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey "Martha"!  Could you please arrange a meeting with your ex and GW w/me?  I'm serious.  Then the discussion could kill two birds w/one stone. 

I'll wait for your call!  yeah

And stop picking on him.  You may end up being the mediator that God uses to bring truth to him, if he is truly still battling this horrific pathogen.  Play nice. (spoken genteely) turn

Counting down the days when you return to be with your daughter!

Blessings,  Sojourner


SickInCT
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   Posted 1/20/2009 4:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Martha's Vineyard said...

I am just waiting for the news to come out and say that the insurance companies need to be bailed out too. That there CEO's are not making enough money and that thier profits are low...and that they too....need 300 Billion in order to keep going.
:P


Aetna is already waiting in line for their bailout money. We really need a Lyme bailout package. tongue We could all take a much needed vacation to some place warm and tropical with plenty of antibiotics, pain meds, LLMD's & and deet (to keep the tics away) on hand. scool scool

Post Edited (SickInCT) : 1/20/2009 4:38:04 AM (GMT-7)


kitty9309
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   Posted 1/20/2009 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Bashing Bush will not help the Lyme cause.
14 years undiagnosed Lyme. I had a bulls-eye rash following a camping trip to NC in 1994. Swollen knees and replapsing and remitting vertigo followed for the next 14 years. All Lyme tests negative. Could possibly be B. lonestari due to being bit in the South.
Just began treatment with low dose Minocycline and Benicar.

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