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hezzer926
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   Posted 2/3/2009 10:18 PM (GMT -7)   
My Dr. is taking me off of mepron / zithromax and putting me on malarone... i've been on that combo for a little over 2 months..

Is malarone different from mepron and will it still help babeisa? he did muscle testing and it showed i was fine w/lyme/babesia but had some trouble with bartonella...

not sure how reliable those tests are but i just want to make sure malarone will still help my progress

ktp812
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   Posted 2/4/2009 6:32 AM (GMT -7)   

Malarone is for Babs..I had been on it for almost a year. What kind of muscle testing did he do I am curious..

I was on Malarone for 6 months and he did another co-infection test and it came back positive where my previous one before Malarone came back negative. I will say that the Malarone did get rid of my night sweats but didn't do much for my fatigue. I didn't really have any other symptoms of Babs..It does have the same active ingredient as Mepron. I have never been on Mepron. I am also taking Enula now. Hopefully someone else will answer too.


hezzer926
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   Posted 2/4/2009 1:30 PM (GMT -7)   
He did this thing where I held a vile next to my chest and held my opposite arm up and resisted his arm.. it was strong to a bunch of things, weak to bartonella and some other things... i do have fatigue and thought mepron helped this... not sure why he wanted to switch..maybe i made myself sound like i was doing better than i actually was...

hezzer926
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   Posted 2/5/2009 3:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Since starting the malarone, I have noticed some air hunger.. why would this happen if its less potent than mepron??

phsinvent
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   Posted 2/5/2009 9:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Mepron and malarone are almost the same. They both contain atovaquone but malarone contains a second drug. Proguanil(another antimalarial).
 
You get far more atovaquone from 2-3 teaspoons mepron per day versus the lower dose of you get from 2-4 pills of malarone( and i'm talking about a lot more). You can't go much high with the malarone because it contains proguanil. You can't go very high with proguanil(minimum safe levels). Honestly though. I'm sick of seeing LLMD's prescribe malarone. It was designed solely as a preventative drug to be taken before you enter a zone with possible malaria. Such as on vacation or what not. It is a replacement for Doxycycline. Doxy used to be the malaria prentative drug of choice before going into a malaria known region.
 
That doesn't mean i'll let mepron off the hook. Both of them have the ability to make babesia go away, 9 times out of 10, it is only temporary. But it almost always(i'm not saying in all cases) comes creeping back. Plus you will piss off your insurance company, it costs about $600-800 per bottle. Not saying that insurance companies shouldn't pay for anything you need. But when you keep going through tons of mepron and they start to get the bill. They might look further into things and possibly cut you off or report your lyme dr. Who knows what the jerks might do after they read the IDSA guidelines. However, very little is known about babesia so they usually don't question it. Also, just because babesia is similar to malaria, it does not mean the popular malaria eradication drugs will work against babs.
 
If you have the prescription, i'd say go with it. It will help out a lot but don't count on malarone or mepron to bring you victory over babesia.
 
Also, be 100% sure you eat something with a natural fat such as cheese or milk with the mepron. Long story but if you don't, you will have very small amounts of atovaquone making it into your bloodstream. 85% or more would just end up in the toilet. Atovaquone dissolves in the fat and the fat crosses through the stomach and intestinal cells carrying the atovaquone with it.

hezzer926
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   Posted 2/6/2009 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
If neither of these are effective in terminating babesia, what is .. how have people gotten better then??

phsinvent
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   Posted 2/6/2009 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   

Some have gotten better off mepron/zith or malarone but the vast majority almost always relapse 2-6 months later. I think a lot of this has to do with what babesia strain you have. But i've read countless stories usually titled "help, cannot get rid of this babesia" from those that have done month after month of mepron.

There are many other alternatives.

Riamet

Clindamycin/Quinine(clindamycin is rather risky due to possible c-diff infections that could result)

Primaquine/Chloroquine/Bactrim

to name a few.


Cmacaran
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   Posted 2/8/2009 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Dr. F in NJ says Malarone is better than the Medpron for Babesia, she usually really knows her abx.

Sulma
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   Posted 2/9/2009 8:54 AM (GMT -7)   
hezzer926 said...
If neither of these are effective in terminating babesia, what is .. how have people gotten better then??
 
 
At this point I don't know that any pharmaceutical company claims they offer a cure for any strain of Babesia. Doesn't mean you cannot achieve pretty much indefinite periods of time with no symptoms though.  Pummel the borrelia while doing everything possible to rebuild your immune system.  Meanwhile use suppressive therapy on the babs if your sxs are really intolerable. Ultimately a really strong, active immune system will be your key to remaining healthy.
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