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vaccinations and lyme .....advices and experiences for me?!

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dorit
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Posted 2/4/2009 3:02 PM (GMT -8)
Hi all!

I should have a couple of vaccinations but I got different statements form different sources (including llmd);

there are mainly three approaches: one states vaccination is good because we already have kind of low/ stressed immune system and the vacc. will therefore protect us; the other says not to do the vaccination because we are already ill and ill persons should not be vaccinated (according to vacc. instructions and its said on the package information leaflet too); the third thing was that the vacc. may trigger a relaps.

any input is highly appreciated. thanks in advance! dorit
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dorit
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Posted 2/5/2009 5:15 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Gracie`s Mom and Villi Phanatick

thanks for you thoughts! I too think vaccination is not unproblematic mostly because it seeems we do not really know what we are doing there...e.g. those researches which have shown that vaccination against some strains of a specific disease just enables other strains (which may cause different or even unknown symptoms) to take over. There are really scary side effects too, I was reading that the risk of getting MS is a lot higher when getting regular hepatatis B vaccinations.

I had vaccinations mosly because I do not tolerate most abx and was abroad a lot; some vaccinations are also a must for my job (like yellow fever, hep. b). I will see how I will decide.
May be I will end up making documentaries about vaccination risks instead of doing research work somewhere in Africa...LOL. But as long as I feel good, I go with everything, I have learned my lesssen well.

Thanks a lot to you again for your inputs! dorit
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bcaring
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Posted 2/5/2009 8:21 AM (GMT -8)
Hello Dorit,

Great posts from everyone.

My feelings are that if we stop vaccination in schools we will be in serious trouble. Our society today does not remember the terrible times when polio was a real threat. Other illnesses also. BUT, I am uncomfortable with the idea also but I see no way out at this time. If I were to have my children vaccinated today I would certainly want to spread them out more, but I don't know if physicians permit it.

Dorit - I believe that you are trying to decide whether to vaccinate against some very serious endemic illnesses in Africa. To me, there is no question that you should get them - it is weighing the risks versus the benefits. I may be wrong, but I think I would chose to take the chance.

Will you promise to let us know if one of your documentaries is shown in the US? I made a journey to see the mountain gorillas in Rwanda and the Congo (wouldn't do it now, of course.) and so documentaries about Africa interest me in general. Are your's about wide life or social and political issues?

Take care,
Beth
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Dowa
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Posted 2/5/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -8)
I had a pneumococcal vaccination in Sept. (08), it was used to see if my immune system was working. (They measure antibodies to it.) I asked the doctor a number of times if it was possible to have a reaction to this vaccine. (She is the one who did NOT believe in chronic Lyme) and assured me that I would not have any adverse reaction to it. HELLO!!!! It literally knocked me on my butt for days. Of course when I mentioned it to her, she thought I had possilbly caught a virus of sorts. Right. I just wanted to say that instinctively I KNEW not to do this vaccine and should have listened to myself and not them. Trouble is, the vaccine is good for TWO years. I wont make that mistake again. I think we really know what is good and not good for ourselves if we listen to our own bodies. Of course, if you travel you are going to be exposed to all sorts of things and put yourself at risk. I would love to be able to travel!  D

 

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dorit
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Posted 2/5/2009 10:50 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Frango and bcaring and Dowa

thanks a lot for your inputs!

Frango - I am glad to hear that you got aroud with the flu shot! That is very good news !!!
We had many pertussis cases last year; now all are afraid of the flu because there is a fast increase of infections reported from Poland, so people start to panic as it seems to come closer and closer every day.

Hi Beth - how great you took the chance to see Rwanda and Congo!!
It is sooooo dangerous in so many places there and often sustainable peace /end of conflicts seem to be so far away. I am more active / involved in social and political issues in connection with globalization; if everything keeps on going well as it seems right now we will be in Sudan and Ethiopia this year. I will have to make some vaccination decisions soon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts which I appreciate a lot!

Dowa- I hope you got over all this vaccination trouble! Thanks for letting me know about your experience.
A lot of immunisations last longer than said by the pharma companies, could be more than two years that you may have a sufficient antibody titer - at least something;

kind greetings to all of you! dorit

Post Edited (dorit) : 2/5/2009 12:09:32 PM (GMT-7)

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