Help! Concnerned about children's TSH, 3rd generation levels...

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   Posted 2/7/2009 6:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Can anyone help with this? I have a call with Dr. J tomorrow night but just received the test results from the blood work from our last visit.

My 4 year old (who has tested positive for bartonella, babesia and lyme) showed the following:

TSH w/Free T4 rfx
TSH 3rd generation 6.52 (ref range .5-4.3)

My 2 year old showed 5.79 for this number.

All other thyroid levels were normal, however. My 4 year old was tested over the summer and this number was slightly elevated at 4.46. Dr. J was not concerned at the time since the other levels were fine. Apparently he doesn't normally treat this, but I have heard that other LLMD's do. I am concerned because it appears much higher now.

Has anyone else had this? What did you do about it? What type of MD would I see about this to try to treat it?

What does this mean? I know nothing about this area and need to research further, but would love any info you can provide. I think I remember hearing that if the thyroid is off, it can affect metabolism and the ability of the drugs to be this true?!

Any recommendations on next steps would be greatly appreciated.



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   Posted 2/7/2009 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Endocrinologists treat thyroid issues usually. A high TSH usually means low thyroid (hypothyroid) - this affects metabolism, which may affect medication absorption, detoxing, energy levels, body temp., etc. Check out for more info.
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   Posted 2/7/2009 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Where do you live. An integrative LLMD would be able to help guide this as well for pediatric levels that are imbalanced regarding thyroid.

If you are comfortable sharing geographics, we may be able to help with this.
Feel free to do the PM me thing, as well.

Seems to be a thyroid explosion going on..

There is help though.

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   Posted 2/7/2009 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you both so much for the info. That was what I was worried about - absorption of the meds!!! I feel like we are not making very much progress with my 4 year old especially and I wonder if the meds are not being absorbed as well as they should be.

I live in Malvern, PA (25 miles west of Philly). I would love any referrals on docs to see. I guess an endocrinologist should be a good start? What is an integrative LLMD?

My 4 year old also has high triglycerides (162); the range is (30 to 104). His Creatinine is a little low at .42 (range is .5 to 1.3), and his BUN/creatinine ratio is high at 33 (range is 6 to 22).

In addition to his bart, lyme and babs, it looks like there is a lot of abnormal stuff going on with my poor little guy!

Have any of you dealt with the and noticed an improvement after treating the thyroid issues?

Thanks so much!!


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   Posted 2/7/2009 10:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I had forgotten that you were a fellow PA Lyme family, Tickbattler.
If you would like to email me, I will be glad to share with you an ILAD referral that you could address your question to.

Integrative LLMDs, particularly ILAD trained LLMDs who treat integratively use combination antibiotic treatment where merited, but they also treat the core body by testing for deficiencies and supplementing the patient where these are identified and then work to rebuild the immune system or stimulate it naturally so that the body begins to make the antibodies needed to also fight the bacteria.

Hormonal imbalances seem to be quite common and under a trained specialist for Lyme, can be treated with supplementation, diet, medication or bio-identical hormones depending on the patient and the identified need. These doctors will also look at adrenals and cortisol levels as well as perform routine testing to monitor blood levels. They can help rule in or out differential diagnosis, as well.

Integrative medicine addresses detoxification, heavy metals, mineral deficiencies and beyond.
Co-infections are identified and addressed as well.

I am sorry that your little one is not well. He sure is going through alot.

Heather is slowly seeing results of a natural approach to thyroid. In her case, we did begin with convention but she is drug resistant and this has taught us other ways to treat. It is a slower method but natural to what her body needs. She has come a long way; but, we know she has a ways to go.

I pray that your answers are just ahead of you and for peace in your heart, as mom and as you search for the right direction to go for his well being. Those of us who are moms truly understand.

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