Sleep is a big component to healing..

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   Posted 2/17/2009 12:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Some great sites on idea to help you sleep.

It is commonly recommended to MAKE sure you sleep between 10pm and 1am to get the best hours you need
for healing and for health.

Try these sites for ideas

Please add any others you can as you read or as you know of them.

Post Edited (KeepHope) : 3/8/2009 1:45:42 AM (GMT-7)

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   Posted 2/17/2009 5:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I was just going to post a question about an off label sleep medication. i have been trying seroquel for my sleep and it is actually helping me. NOTHING has really ever helped my sleep (phenobarbital helps somewhat though).

has anyone else tried seroquel? i resisted trying it for two years because of the scary side-effects (too many to list). basically i was wondering how horrendous is the weight gain with this medication?

the thing is like i said it's actually been helping me (not that i sleep normally but still) and i feel better when i get some rest (insomnia is a killer symptom; i've had it 14 years). but i don't want to gain huge amounts of weight. in my experience psych meds cause huge weight gain. i have gained 10 pounds over the last four months or so.

has anyone had any experience with this medication? has anyone else tried phenobarbital?

I probably have developed some bad sleep hygiene habits over the years. one of my bad habits is i put off going to bed because i absolutely hate sleeping horribly. now that i've gotten some rest with the seroquel i don't want to go back to what i was getting before (i've only been on this medication 2 weeks). i know the sedative effects wear off quickly though. that's the problem with all sleep medications.

for me sleep is the #1 problem. totally debilitating.

anyone else?

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   Posted 2/17/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had insomnia since the age of 12 so I am familiar with all the sleep remedies. When you have lyme or are taking some of the medications that have insomnia as a side effect, sleep can be nearly impossible sometimes. This is what works the best of everything I have tried over the last 40years. I stay away from chemicals because of the side effects.
For women, progesterone, which is calming and sedative - a natural tranquilizer that made my insomnia history until the tick bite!

I have found the herbal remedies need to be rotated or they wear out. I have put a * by what I find to be most effective for me.

***Zhang's Herbsom - which contains 600 mg Corydalis root, Jujube seeds and Schisandra fruit. This works extremely well. You could order the herbs listed online. When I looked them up, they are all beneficial.

**L-Triptophan - a calming amino acid found in milk and turkey and the reason you want to fall asleep after the big Thanks Giving meal.

*Valerian - a sedative and muscle relaxer also used for constipation and stomach cramps. It has been used for epilepsy.

**Scullcap - a sedative used for stress and tension. It combines well with Valerian. It has been used for epilepsy and was regarded in old times as a cure for rabies.

Chamomile - A sedative, relaxant and anti-inflammatory for tension and stress. This is the main ingredient of the tea "Sleepy Time". I actually get anxious from it.

Melatonin - what is commonly used for insomnia. Does nothing for me any more.

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   Posted 2/17/2009 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I found that keeping the room extremely dark helps. They have proven that it calms your brain when it is dark and allows it to relax. I also bath every night in epsom salt and go to bed when my body is still warm. The importance of sleep goes unrecognized I think, a good nights sleep and I can conquer just about anything, a sleepless night and I am a mess for the whole day. (:  D

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   Posted 2/17/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
What I experience is not insomnia directly but more kind of collapses of my biorhythm; there were nights I could not fall asleep (though I felt very tired) and afterwards days when I could sleep more or less constantly for some days - I felt sooooo tired and if I did not go to sleep immediatelly I started to throw up. I checked that out once, gave me the time to just let me sleep and spent one week in bed really mostly sleeping all the time. It felt like being under (real strong) narcotics, like being in a coat that keeps me warm and sleepy sleepy sleepy. This was worst right before I got my allergic rush last spring.... now/ in the meantime and after reading about all your experiences I am wondering if this might have been some kind of herx too... because by instinct I used tons of purification teas/ herbs and took wobenzym too to get me back to "normality"; I am on a better organized detox road staight since I learned so much about Lyme; the last insomnia "attack" was in early November - it got much much better in the meantime.... that gives my hope that I got something under control. dorit
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