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Posted 5/26/2009 5:21 PM (GMT -7)
I think I have decided to give Envita a try they seem to have the right idea with getting through the biofilms,Its not positive but Im trying to  make the arrangements with my family and financially,Its alot of money to chance but I have a fanily to take care of and I will never know if I dont try! ANyone else planning on making a trip let me know maybe we can support each other becuase Im scared to death!
Posted 5/26/2009 6:43 PM (GMT -7)
I agree completly. this is much more simple in my mind than this and that protocol no offense please to anyone, but i have not been through all that antibiotic and supplement protocol yet and i just cant seem to wrap my mind around it. but it doesnt seem to cure anyone. so many seem to sink right back into what they came from as soon as a cycle is over with. thats just how i feel i hope no one is offended
Posted 5/26/2009 6:52 PM (GMT -7)
Ive done the iv antibiotics and oral and have got nowhere so its time to move on for my familys sake !Come go with me!!!
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Posted 5/26/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -7)
Well, Marie got well. But it's expensive and somewhat time consuming -- three months in Scottsdale...Not that I'd be complaining about that with these sinuses. The air alone could make me well, let alone Envita.

Anyways, will keep it mind...I just don't have the funds or the time off. On the other hand, what price for health? Go for it. Get well. And keep us posted -- we want to hear a great healing story.
Posted 5/26/2009 7:08 PM (GMT -7)
i just had to leave my job because my production numbers were so bad because of my slow lyme speed. I really have nothing to loose .. I will be going at some point. i just wonder of some kind of an estimate of money, i also have family in arizona .. does anyone have a round about estimate for cost
Posted 5/26/2009 9:00 PM (GMT -7)
if your coming from the eastcoast you can do a lay over in Tx at my home if your not scared of the dogs. all lymes welcomed
Posted 5/26/2009 9:39 PM (GMT -7)
Rd is a saint!
Posted 5/26/2009 10:00 PM (GMT -7)
hello. I am in AZ and have considered Envita. Mostly because of the protocol of things they
treat with that are supplemental to Abx like ozone Blood Treamtents, Collidial Silver and Peroxide, EDTA etc. Those that they use to flush your blood and also prepare them for abx to work much better and fast.
I though am not sure I would want to do it with just an IV since they do so much Blood treating I would maybe want to try a port or other way to help make it easier. That though I am not sure of but was thinking about..

Sickof...If you need or want to know anything about the area or need any help at all. Please let me know.
If I was not this sick i would offer my home and a place to stay. Its a real mess here and my two sons are living here to. I do not have much to offer in that way. Maybe someday i will be able to do that.! I sure hope so. i can visualize it. It is not that it is not in my heart. I just have to be realistic.
But anyway...
Can you share the reason for your decision and what it is about the treatment that you feel is the part or parts that drew you to it. ??
Posted 5/27/2009 7:32 AM (GMT -7)
THank you for all the kind offers
THe lyme treatment is only 4-6 weeks
and about 3800.00 a week
I dont know why Marie stayed for 3 months but I will not be! If you call Envita they will give you all that info they are very helpful!

Oh yeah and you are required to get a port!!They do that in arizona

Posted 5/27/2009 10:34 AM (GMT -7)
I dont want to sound negative, but just remember that when Marie left after all those treatments and $, they still told her to take antibiotics. So, for you that are tired of abx, I know they still prescibe them in addition to the natural treatments.  D
Posted 5/27/2009 10:39 AM (GMT -7)
IM am absolutely fine with being on antibioitics for the rest of my life if I can just get to where I can function!!
Posted 5/27/2009 11:14 AM (GMT -7)
Just to let you know I did get better on antibiotics only, took a while but I am fully functioning after 2 years, I do run in to minor issues here and there but they may or may not be lyme related
Posted 5/27/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -7)
I never said antibiotics dont help but we do know at least I feel that they dont cure
thats my point. And peripheral neuropathy is a third stage lyme symptom which I also have. Again I never want anyones feeling hurt. I just want to fight for movement into the best option. And apparently this is a antibiotic conjunction therapy. it seems the most benificial to getting you past the antibiotic plateau that seems to limit people. the inevitable relapse that is seemingly undeniable by testimony. We know that antibiotics does not completely eradicate. We must search for more.
Posted 5/27/2009 1:46 PM (GMT -7)
I am suprised that they said only 4-6 weeks.  It seemed like Marie was there forever.  There is someone else on this board, Snake something that was also @ Envita during part of the time Marie was there.  I have not heard how they did.

Did you happen to ask them about insurance covering this?

Posted 5/27/2009 3:01 PM (GMT -7)
Of course insurance does not cover alternative medicine! It should cover the port and maybe some of the antibiotics ,I personally have been on antibiotics for a year now and 4 months of iv antibiotics and have not had a good day at all! SO I am going to make my envita decision this weekend and will let everyone know! I deal with severe muscle pain and joint pain now too ,my feet hurt so bad I cant stay on them ,General Malaise,numbness and tingling ,I think the only thing I dont experience is thinking problems but that could start any minute! I think that snake person only got chelation at Envita and did not help at least I think so! And yes they said 4-6 weeks for the lyme protocol! I have Babesia also so I dont know if the same protocol I would assume as much stuff as they give you it would you spend about 4-5 hours on IVs they told me all the stuff but I cant remember it all colloidal silver ozone ,peroxide,chelation,nutritional ect... Dont have my western blot right here so I am not sure I was pos IGM cdc standards and pos Igenex standards on IGG
Posted 5/27/2009 3:09 PM (GMT -7)
I spoke to them a few months back and if I had the funds I would give it a shot. Maybe when I can sell my apt. in NY and relocate to Scottsdale I will.

I hope you respond as well as Maria did. Please let us know how you're doing. Good luck!
Posted 5/27/2009 5:33 PM (GMT -7)
Im getting a little discouraged about envita I have yet to find a success story except Marie.Not looking good ,after I mad up my mind now Im confused again! Good Grief!
Posted 5/27/2009 5:49 PM (GMT -7)
what do you mean where are you looking
Posted 5/27/2009 6:25 PM (GMT -7)
Scorpio - Are you in NYC? Don't they offer excellent treatment for Lyme?

Is this disease crazy or what? I feel kind of hopeless reading that it takes 3800 a week for six weeks..and then you don't know if you're cured.

My feet continue to worsen. Woozy head so far for a month.

I'd try anything at this point, but will they cure me or what. I may go the port route, but boy is that scary or what?

SCARED
Posted 5/27/2009 6:25 PM (GMT -7)
Have you treated for Bartonella? Oral (rifampicin or levaquin) or have you done Bart treament (IV Claforan)? I am not trying to confuse you just trying to help you decide... I am doing well now that Bart is addressed.
Posted 5/27/2009 6:53 PM (GMT -7)
Hopingtofindacure, Yes, I'm in New York and being treated by one of the top llmd's who told me he could continue to treat me if I do relocate. I was told I will need a minimum of 6 months of IV Rocephin for any chance of recovery and as we all already know there are no guarantees. I'm into my third month and do not see any improvement yet. I'm very impatient by nature so the idea of going to Envita and being treated as agressively as possible from all ends for a shorter period of time appeals to me. I love Scottsdale and am planning to relocate as soon as I'm well enough whether I go to Envita or not.

I'm scared too! I know it's important to stay positive but I can't help feeling hopeless, frustrated and very angry too.
Posted 5/27/2009 10:05 PM (GMT -7)
hey marie here. I did the first treatment and felf darn good. but then they ad th chelation thing just coming out and wanted me to to do that to.
Butthey tried hard to gt me better. I was going to be institutionaized for my anxiety and depression. I could not be trusted alone.
So what works for some and not others....
Snake had his mind when he went in to enviat. he is going to college. i could not finish a sentece when I got there.
But it look like i am going to be headed out there again with my 13 year old daughter....hopefully. I want my baby back!
Posted 5/28/2009 6:31 AM (GMT -7)
Marie, Good luck with your daughter. I hope it works for her as much as it did for you. Valerie
Posted 5/28/2009 3:46 PM (GMT -7)
Same Here Marie!!

And also to SickofLyme!

Maybe by the time you get down here I will still see you there!!??

I sure hope so! I am working on it but trying to time it too to some family issues. Money issues and as well even some feedback on the status of some research that can help me while I am there ....

I do want to go though...

I wish money did not exist!
Posted 5/29/2009 7:37 AM (GMT -7)
Keep hope, Do you know if the treatment they use all that stuff ozone peroxide chelation, ect... Does it help with viruses too? such as EBV and HHV??
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