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For those on Cat's Claw, Resveratrol, and Andrographis ? about Herx?

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KO-LD
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Posts : 887
Posted 6/3/2009 11:20 AM (GMT -7)
For those that have taken Cat's Claw, Resveratrol and Andrographis,  I just started 1 3x/day of each (Buhner's Protocol) and in my 5th day I had what could have been a herx.  Temp 99 I usually run 97.8 or so, headache, just achy all over with migrating joint pain.  Kinda like how I herxed from low dose of Doxy only not as severe.  Any thoughts?

Thanks, KO

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Ginnia
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Joined : Nov 2008
Posts : 48
Posted 6/3/2009 2:09 PM (GMT -7)
I am convinces you have to sleep as much as you can while taking the anti's.  Your body is then free to fight - you aren't calling on it todo anything else.

Hope you improve.

Ginnia

 

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Razzle
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Posts : 4415
Posted 6/3/2009 7:03 PM (GMT -7)
Yes, I too saw an increase in joint pain when on these 3 herbs. I added nettles to the mix per Buhner's instructions for joint pain in his book, and that took the pain away again. And then the other shoe fell...my gut shut itself down from esophagus down...and I haven't been able to eat since. A few LLMD/LLND's and I think this is a result of Lyme/Bartonella herx gone amok, and my body has not been able to recover due to how long I've been sooooo sick (chronic malabsorption = malnutriton; not enough raw materials to make repairs = inability to recover from herxes or flares sufficiently = continual down-hill slide).

So be careful and make sure you are doing detox. Take care,
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Jendays247
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Posted 6/3/2009 8:14 PM (GMT -7)
Razzle-

!!! I did not know you were in such bad shape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is your next step...? Can you slowly recover from this?
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Razzle
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Posted 6/3/2009 8:31 PM (GMT -7)
Jensdays247,

We're still working on stabilizing my nutrition without making my liver too unhappy. The next step would be to figure out how to treat me without making things too much worse. I hope I can recover from this...

Thanks,
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+Lyme
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Posts : 1304
Posted 6/3/2009 8:36 PM (GMT -7)
Razzle, I am so sorry that you are so ill! This is so saddening and frightening! I do feel certain that you WILL recover, I'm just sorry for everything you are going thru to get there. I'm glad you like your Drs and that they seem to be open minded in their attempts to help you!
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KO-LD
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Posted 6/4/2009 8:50 AM (GMT -7)
BUMP!
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Razzle
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Posted 6/4/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -7)
Thanks +Lyme for your kind words. Take care,
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