Yin and Yang of Lyme

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   Posted 6/16/2009 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I have spent my professional life merging East and West and feel that this is an area of Lyme treatment that is unrecognized. Most Chinese medical practitioners claim that antibiotics are not needed and most Western doctors fail to recognize the problems such as blood stagnation, organ dysfunction,and yin and yang imbalance that results from both the infection and from multiple long term antibiotics. I firmly believe that to become well you can and should combine treatments. This is how I treat hormone imbalance and now because of my illness am learning to do so for chronic Lyme.

I have been taking IV Claforan for 3 weeks now and have felt much better…my spirit and energy improved within days of starting treatment. One of the known side effects of Claforan is to lower the blood counts. As I progressed in my therapy I began to have increasing night sweats, uncontrolled tearfulness and sadness and increasing fatigue despite more rest. Most LLMD’s would say, “Great you are herxing.” But what is herxing really?? I understand that Herx reaction is the body’s reaction to dead bacteria/spirochetes but I also recognize that according to Chinese medicine it is blood/yin/Qi deficiency/liver stagnation, etc.

As I felt more unwell my liver function tests began to rise and my white blood cells began to fall. So I went to my Chinese Herbalist in Chinatown (Boston) and asked who the local acupuncturist is. (Doctors will not survive long in Chinatown if they are not successful with patients). Dr W (who takes insurance, so I pay only my $20 copay), has been practicing for over 25 years. I saw him yesterday. He was immediately angered by my state of health. He carefully explained, “your Yin and Yang are so very weak, and out of balance-stop the antibiotics.” (I was infusing during the exam!). He performed acupuncture and prescribed herbs to balance my organs ($17/week, told me to walk every day, sleep by 10pm, eat more vegetables and less meat and do less. I am used to merging modalities and I know that I will (for now) continue the antibiotics but I will also get my yin and yang balanced.

When I returned home my LLMD has left a message to stop antibiotic infusions because the white cell counts were too low. We discussed my theory and she agreed to adding Chinese Herbs and acupuncture to improve my kidney and liver yin, which will help my counts.

I will keep you posted- but no tears since acupuncture and clear happy head this morning. I will also post here the signs and symptoms of yin/blod and Qi deficiency. The symptoms look (and feel) a lot like Herx reactions…night sweats, tears, dizziness, heat intolerance…

I am do plan to transition off IV antibiotics in the upcoming months (hopefully) - they have done me good but I believe they should not be used long term. I will have a Bicillin injection today to prepare for IV withdrawal. I spoke with Dr S (Maryland) who says that he has less relapse when stopping IV using Bicillin injections in the last weeks of IV and then continues Biciillin (often with Omnicef) after the IV is discontinued. While I do this I will continue to get weekly acupuncture and boil my somewhat ghastly tasting herbs to restore my yin, yang and spirit.

I sincerely hope that this is not confusing to people. It is important to repair/restore the body while taking antibiotics and most "Chinatowns" throughout the world have skilled doctors. I trained in Australia with a Chinese doctor, in Melbourne’s Chinatown. The herbs are ancient and universal and they (the Chinese) have been treating spirochetes (Syphilis) for centuries. We have much to learn from them, and vice versa

I also believe that one does not have to spend a life’s saving to be well. I have lived with Lyme disease most of my life- lived it fully using combined treatments and I plan to live a long full life beyond today in the same way.

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   Posted 6/16/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Good post, thank you.  Do you know what herbs the chinese have been using for spirochetes?

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   Posted 6/16/2009 12:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a chinese doctor of my lymes treatment team in the Philly area/nj and he uses: PC samento, PC nomi, tick pathogens, andrographis, arteminisin, also accupuncture, and the KMT machine (I wrote more about KMT under the recent topic of alternative meds).
lyme dx 11/08
low dose doxy 6 weeks
Bactrim & Difulcan; 
PC Nomi, Samento, accupuncture, sauna, KMT
Mino/biaxin/rifampin presently
mother to two children with lymes

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   Posted 6/16/2009 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Just started Acupuncture thinkin positive thoughts. My guy has never worked with Lyme but he's trying.
Good Luck
Finding Peace In This Crazy World !

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   Posted 6/16/2009 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
What is a KMT machine?

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   Posted 6/17/2009 9:32 AM (GMT -7)   
pcpc, Your post was not at all confusing. I am also treating with Chinese herbs to build my blood etc. and have done acupuncture as well. After having Lyme and it's buddies for more than 20 years-My dream is to wean off antibiotics and continue with herbals. After being treated for Lyme and co-infections for almost 2 1/2 years straight (including 3 months of IV last year) last month I began to feel 85% better...then with my LLMD's OK I attempted to go off rifampicin and mino and just do Cowden along with many suppliments including artimecinin for babs but the symptoms came raging back within 2 weeks so went back on the meds like a dog with a tail between the legs.

I am going to continue to work on balancing my Chi, Yin and Yang, Yan and Ying and whatever else needs to be balanced .....but it certainly can get weary when one feels defeated. In addition I work at conducting Lyme awareness trainings to anyone who will listen in groups and area hospitals. I am a Psychologist by training but have learned to be a Pharmacist by desperation. There is not a week that goes by that I don't learn something new about what the bite of a tick can do to a person. Thanks for your up-dates on how to treat this disease I find them valuable. Blessings
Diagnosed 2003 Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Micoplasma,Hashimotos Thyroiditis. Have had since early nineties. [/color]

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   Posted 6/17/2009 10:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm a Natural Health Care Consultant on my way (still taking courses) to becoming a Naturopath and all my studies are about balance.

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