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MosinNagantLover
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   Posted 8/5/2009 11:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been reading a lot about Cat's Claw as a herbal supplement for the treatment of Lyme Disease symptoms with some reported good results.

Anyone have any personal experience with the herb? Is it worth a try?
Life is what happens while you make other plans. The late great John Lennon


Lovelabs
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   Posted 8/5/2009 12:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I herxed on cats claw. Was only on it for a bit. Used it until I got into my LLMD appt. I guess it must have been doing something! I know some swear by it. Hope this helps

Stunned123
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   Posted 8/5/2009 1:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I am taking a small amount of Samento with my Abx. My LLMD is fine with me taking a couple of drops a day, but does not want me to go beyond that dose. He is afraid of "overstimulating" my immune system. I felt like I started to herx when I added it to my Abx. I continue to hear good things about it.

minerals
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   Posted 8/5/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -7)   
One cannot take just any catsclaw product. There are many out there but the one that works should be pure. I did take this while on modified cowden protocal but it did not work for me. I go tup to 30 drops 2 x day for 3 months..... I had to go back on antibiotics.

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Diagnosed 2003 Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Micoplasma,Hashimotos Thyroiditis. Have had since early nineties.

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KO-LD
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   Posted 8/5/2009 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I took it before I was diagnosed for tendinitis.  When I was diagnosed I had been taking it for 6 months for the tendinitis.  My CD57 was 76 that was before starting any treatment.  I just had another CD57 done after 6 months of Zhang's protocol and it was 34.  I believe the Cat's Claw was responsible for raising my CD57 the first time (It is known to raise the CD57 score).  I am now on Buhner's protocol which has Cat's Claw as part of the core protocol.
KO
2001 symptoms started:
Tingling in fingers and toes both sides, not tested at that time for LD
2007 Summer tested pos. WB, diagnosed with LD, tested neg for co-infections thru Igenex
Abx - Doxy 100mg 2x/day for 3 weeks (before diagnosis)
Amoxicillin 1gm 2x/day for 1 month
Amoxicillin 1gm 3x/day with Probenecid 500mg 2x/day  5 months 
Currently on Dr. Zhang's protocol stopped Zhang's after 6 months symptoms returned.  Started Buhner's protocol May 2009


+Lyme
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   Posted 8/5/2009 5:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Any suggestions on ensuring a quality purchase on this? Would Whole Foods or GNC, places like that have a good product in anyone's opinion? Also, suggested beginning doses?
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
CD57= 60, so we're in pretty good shape.
 


KO-LD
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   Posted 8/5/2009 8:13 PM (GMT -7)   
+lyme, Stephen Buhner recommends Cat's Claw from Raintree.  You can read more about doses and stuff in his book Healing Lyme.  I got mine from Amazon, but check your library first.  KO
2001 symptoms started:
Tingling in fingers and toes both sides, not tested at that time for LD
2007 Summer tested pos. WB, diagnosed with LD, tested neg for co-infections thru Igenex
Abx - Doxy 100mg 2x/day for 3 weeks (before diagnosis)
Amoxicillin 1gm 2x/day for 1 month
Amoxicillin 1gm 3x/day with Probenecid 500mg 2x/day  5 months 
Currently on Dr. Zhang's protocol stopped Zhang's after 6 months symptoms returned.  Started Buhner's protocol May 2009


Stunned123
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   Posted 8/6/2009 5:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I have heard different things from different studies. Most people say that the Cat's Claw should be TOA free. Others say it doesn't matter. I bought the Nutramedix Samento, since I am only taking a couple of drops a day while on Abx. Good luck.

tickedoff
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   Posted 8/6/2009 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   
i too heard that it should be TOA free...i believe allergy research group has it in capsule and liquid form...my article says sensitive people should stay with one capsule or one drop per day for an extended period of time and increase very gradually...but, of course i would check with your llmd first...please let us know how you make out with this as i'm thinking about adding to my husband's regime...he will just love having to take one more pill!!!

MosinNagantLover
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   Posted 8/7/2009 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I've googled GNC to look at their Cats Claw. It doesn't give much info on it and does not mention that it is TAO free.

Where's a good supplier that isn't going to rob you blind for it?
Life is what happens while you make other plans. The late great John Lennon


Stunned123
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   Posted 8/7/2009 9:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Try www.vitacost.com. I ordered my Nutramedix Samento and Cumanda from www.renewalenterprises.com. They are cheaper than buying from Nutramedix directly.(Which makes no sense to me.) Good luck.

MosinNagantLover
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   Posted 8/7/2009 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Stunned123. I just ordered my Samento from Vitacost. The price was great. I'm hoping it will have some effect on my husbands chronic sinus infection as well as my Lyme symptoms.
Life is what happens while you make other plans. The late great John Lennon


nefferdun
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   Posted 8/7/2009 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I use Nutri Cology Prima una de Gato which is TOA free cat's claw in 375mg capsules. There are 90 capsules which I buy online for about $55 a bottle. I take one capsule four times a day. I quit abx about 5 months ago and am doing very well on just herbs,. I also take 1000 mg of grapefruit seed extract divided into four doses.
For bartonella I take 16 HH capsules. I have muscle pain today but most of the time I am symptom free.

Caldonia Sun
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   Posted 8/8/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
nefferdun, how long were you on abx before you switched to herbs? And may I ask, what are HH capsules?

Thanks.
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