Has anyone tried the 72 hour remedy for Lyme?

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mokeyho
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   Posted 8/23/2009 4:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Salt and vitamin C.  It's a 30 page PDF and I am wondering if anyone's read it and what you think of it?  Anyone tried the remedy? 

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   Posted 8/23/2009 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Thaks for this, Mokeyho, I'm going to go look for this now, and I am also anxious to hear what others here think!
I will try a search on 'salt and vitamin C' and if I can't find it, I'll come back and ask you, OK?
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   Posted 8/23/2009 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
please do not take this the wrong way, but if there was such a thing as a 72 hr cure. none of us would be here right now.

think about it. there are so many folks out there who would love nothing better then to make money off of us who would jump at anything to be cured.

please do not try this thinking your going to be well in 72 hrs time. it took a lot longer then that to make you this sick. therefore it is going to take you awhile to get better on anything you take.

as for a real cure, lord i pray daily for one to come our way. now this is just my belief, but i believe this was all started in a lab, therefore a lab is where it has to end. and we have to pray they will come up with our cure someday very soon.

i do wish everyone all the best. and again this is just my thinking and not meant to hurt anyone feelings. kinda looking out for our new members.

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   Posted 8/23/2009 2:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with you RD on both counts!!

I have read articles about exactly that (people out to make as much money as they can off of "chronically ill patients".

And if we, who have had to find out about these 'scams', don't help others to avoid them - what does that say about us?

I've actually thought about trying the "Salt & C" tx., but that's when I then read that article, and there was a discussion about it on one of the Lyme forums I frequent (maybe HW?).
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+Lyme
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   Posted 8/23/2009 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, RD and CG, I guess I'll have to agree w/ you.  I looked at a couple of the sites and didn't go far.  Just the questions about the amount of salt and if it was safe was enough for me.
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
CD57= 60, so we're in pretty good shape.
 


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 8/23/2009 6:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds scary. If anyone's tried it, they've never posted that I can recall.
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rdatman
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   Posted 8/23/2009 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I have heard about this so-called cure. I wonder if the high salt intake temporarily resets the Adrenal fatigue we lymies experience? Because I have massive salt cravings periodically that I have linked metabolically to adrenal dysfunction.

veromia333
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   Posted 8/23/2009 11:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I dont think it sounds scary at all. And I have seen some testimony of patients in another forum who say it is really helping.

I believe it is worth trieing while giving yourself a break from antibiotics u could try it.

Abx is no less dangerous than this could ever be.

I am definatly going to try it.

And the same rule applies, not 72 hours for sure, but long term treatment for long-term disease.

Disease for 2 years treatment for 2 years, or whatever necessary.

Life-cycles and dormant stages to be considered for the relapse. and continual going in and out of feeling better.

I really believe lyme and bart interchange when causing symptoms, as the life cycles change and are strong or not.

Also there is a theory that one parasite raises another to feed on it like we would poultry.

The theory is also that the salt kills as the vitamin c replenishes what the salt does.

And that the salt kills all types of parasites and also prevents them from reverting into cyst form.

This is what i heard..

And that as the salt scare came so did more parasites, we used to eat lots of salt now we are afraid of it. They even reduced the salt licks for the cows and ohhh mad cow hmmmm.

that is what i heard. So i am interested here. just interested in the theory. and testimony of real time patients.

So gonna try.

hope everyone is doing ok.

bye, veronica
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


veromia333
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   Posted 8/24/2009 12:09 AM (GMT -7)   
they say they are trieing to do hyperbaric oxegen and rife also. with it

I saw a lady say what if u have breast implants with using the rife machine. I thought ohhhhh my gosh that is what sounds scary!!! Hahaa
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


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   Posted 8/24/2009 4:55 AM (GMT -7)   
One must be very careful when using/trying the Salt C therapy, especially with blood pressure. Vit C can also wreak havoc on your tummy.

If it cured that quickly, as stated above....we would all be well.

I know of many that have tried this protocol to no avail.
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veromia333
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   Posted 8/24/2009 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I never saw it said it is in 72 hours, but long term....
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


Razzle
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   Posted 8/24/2009 3:06 PM (GMT -7)   
What I've read about this is that it helps but does not apparently rid the cyst form or biofilms as people seem to have to stay on it or they relapse.
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   Posted 8/24/2009 5:00 PM (GMT -7)   
rdatman said...
I have heard about this so-called cure. I wonder if the high salt intake temporarily resets the Adrenal fatigue we lymies experience? Because I have massive salt cravings periodically that I have linked metabolically to adrenal dysfunction.


Interesting point! My gp told me about 4 weeks ago that he wanted me to actually increase my salt intake. He also told me that he has told a patient that only a handful of times.

As far as the Vit. C goes, I do believe in higher doses of that for many, many different health issues.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 8/24/2009 6:48 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know if anyone knows this but it's sea salt, not table salt. Sea salt is supposed to be good for you. I'm not sure what it can do to the body at high doses though. I have read that it can raise the blood pressure so if you are going to do this, make sure you have someone check your BP regularly. I'd also suggest researching everything you can about it before you start it.
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veromia333
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   Posted 8/24/2009 11:16 PM (GMT -7)   
it is pure sodium chloride. Meaning no additive as in table salt like iodine.

1 gram per ten pounds of body weightfor the salt a day, not exceeding 18 grams a day

and same amount for the c

Divided into 3 or 4 doses a day and they say work up to it it will really hurt your stomach if you dont work up to

And i read it prevents the bacteria from going into cyst form, I theorized that this is because it probably is robbed of water by the salt

and i bet it needs water to go into cyst form.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.

Post Edited (veromia333) : 8/25/2009 12:23:14 AM (GMT-6)


veromia333
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   Posted 8/25/2009 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
You prob have to find the pure sodium chloride online.

Im having no success in the health stores.

Any good vitamin c they said
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


mcjane
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   Posted 8/25/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Read a lot about salt....found as many cons as pros so decided not to try it.

Is there anything stranger with so many different abx and treatments than Lyme !!!

Sounds like trial and error and then pray for results.

Often wondered if Lyme arthritis is the same as osteoarthritis.

ina
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   Posted 8/25/2009 3:15 PM (GMT -7)   
also you might want to try some of the condiments - bayleaf and cumin, fresh basil, parsley. there are many with bactericidal properties if your stomach allows you.

mcjane
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   Posted 8/25/2009 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
ina.
Now that I would try...sounds very safe, but keep in mind would have to be finely ground bay leaf.

Swallowing a whole bay leaf could cut your intestins to ribbons and would have to be removed surgically.

You cannot digest them.

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   Posted 8/27/2009 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I am currently taking about 11000 mg of Vitamin C/ 12 g of Sea Salt per day. I am thinking of upping the C, because it gives my stomach no adverse effects. I think it is really helping in addition to my Doxy. I suggest you read this site to have a better understanding of Salt C.
http://www.lymephotos.com/

Chasz
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   Posted 9/11/2009 3:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I have used with the "guidelines" from the german website. Borreliose abhilfe. I started because my muscle fasculations got so bad it totally drove me nuts.

I used natural himalayan salt because the idea is that natural salt isnt bad for the body as the pure processed natriumchloride salt is.
My elisa values started to go down and my fasculations lessened once I started using it. I stopped 4 months now to check my elisa values and only my c6 value is going up again. I still have some fasculations and creaking joints but it's managable. I'm thinking of starting with the salt/c again.
The german site makes no money of it and the reactions of people are pretty positive. It's set up by a guy who had Lyme himself and he modelled it after the american lymephotos site I think.

It might be a placebo effect, I'm not sure. And I'm no doctor so I surely do not advise using it. Also I had my urine and blood tested periodically by my gp to see if my kidneys were ok. Aswell as my bloodpressure. Oh and I used different vitamin c tablets. Also the once based on calcium and the ester c cause they are milder for the stomach. And ofcourse I drank plenty of water! For every swig of my salt c flask every hour I drank 10 mouthfulls of water.

Like I said for me my complaints seem sort of managable for now, I only have one issue left:

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=1488321

nefferdun
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   Posted 9/11/2009 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I think the theory is that the salt is a natural inhibitor of bacteria, used as a preservative and by overloading our bodies with it, we kill the bacteria. But more than likely it would kill our cells too.

Everyone writes a book, sells a cure. They get rich and we stay sick buying every new promise of recovery. It makes my angry how so many people have ripped us off.

Chasz
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   Posted 9/11/2009 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I read somewhere that the salt only attacks the bad "gram-negative bacteria" but leaves the rest intact. But hey I don't know what it's based upon though.

I think carp enthusiasts use salt to treat some infections on the fish.

Ofcourse it's all hearsay for now.

Thing is that the salt c info I found in German was for free and there were good "reviews" so that made me less suspicious.
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