Atkins or Medi-fast Anyone?

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alone&scared
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   Posted 9/24/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Someone posted something about getting snacks from medi-fast...I think it was CG. Did you actually do the medi-fast program? Anyone? I need to lose weight. I mean, I am really sick and in pain, but I think I would at least feel a little better if I did not weigh so much. I kind of worried about doing Atkins because when I start treatment for lyme's I am afraid that the lack of "bready" things will make my stomach upset with the abx. But, I am afraid to do Medifast because it is freakin expensive and the food may be nasty:)
Any suggestions?
I know that Atkins also detoxes you and gets rid of food cravings. And, I would end up eating all healthy stuff: lean meats, vegetables, berries, nuts, fiber, etc.
I am worried about all of the preservatives and artificial sweeteners, etc. in Medifast.
Just looking for thoughts on either one!
Thank you!

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   Posted 9/24/2009 5:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I need to lose weight too!  A couple of years ago I went on the Atkins and lost 20 pounds, well, I'm back on Atkins but a modified version (my version).  Just eating proteins and NO BREAD or CARBS!
 
I remember that after about 2 weeks I did lose my craving for bread..  So I am on day 2 of this diet.  I am eating veggies though and if I remember some veggies were not allowed.   I hate being overweight!!
 
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   Posted 9/24/2009 6:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I am actually following a high protein diet that the nurse that supplies my supplements gave me. I have 'modified' it too because Medi Fast bars are not on the list, lol. I know "me" though and I know if I don't have something that seems sweet, that I will abandon the diet.

I can post what I eat later tonight or tomorrow if you want to know. It's really not that bad at all.
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Nicky D
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   Posted 9/24/2009 6:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Alone&Scared- my Dr actually has me on a diet with no "bready" things at all- no breads, cereals, pastas, or anything made with flour or wheat. And no sugar. As long as you eat the right things, you don't get an upset stomach. Unfortunately, it is expensive (though not as much as a diet plan), because bread and cereal is cheap, while veggies and meat are not.

Deejavu
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   Posted 9/24/2009 6:25 PM (GMT -7)   
CG, I would like to know what your "modified" diet consists of plus the supplements if you don't mind.   I guess I am lucky because I don't crave sweets, just bread and Tostito Chips..  Oh no, I feel like chips right now! nono
 
Nicky, I live alone and I buy a BIG chicken and make a HUGE pot of soup with all the soup greens, etc.  I freeze some of it (sometimes I just make chicken stock and freeze that) and the rest of it lasts me a long time..   But I guess if one is cooking for a family, it does get expensive.  I do look for sales..  Lots of times those big chickens are 40% off...  I'm sad because I grew my own veggies this summer and soon summer will be coming to an end..  oh well.. I wish I had a green house but then again I wish for lots of things smilewinkgrin
 
I can't eat everything natural so I buy frozen veggies (when on sale) and eat those except for Cauliflower and some others that are high in carbs...
 
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+Lyme
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   Posted 9/24/2009 6:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Agreed, Nicky -- these (high protein) diets are costly. But, Alone, Atkins does work -- you will lose weight w/o getting weak or hungry.  And you can lose weight quicker than a lot of other diets.  I think it's been shown that ketosis (sp) is dangerous, but years ago while doing a modified kind of Atkins, I learned that you do not need to go into ketosis to lose weight quickly. If exercising, you can also firm up a little quicker than usual. AND you will not be hungry.

1 big point goes against Atkins: If you are having a hey day w/ the butter, sour cream, beef, other meats, cheese, real mayo, all the bacon you can handle (Y.U.M.) you will lose weight UNLESS you CHEAT and fall prey to some heavy carbs and/or sugar. If you do this, then all those calories and fat in the Atkins diet will then go AGAINST you. I don't know why, but I know it, cause it's happened to me.  More than several times.

btw, Sugar Busters is a great, healthy modified Atkins type program. Just buy the paperback book on it. It's an excellent diet, not too difficult to adhere. It allows more fruits and vegs, but they must be certain ones. It also allows you 2 pieces of whole grain or rye bread.

I have 2 friends who tried everything and failed til they tried Sugar Busters.

Just putting in my 2 cents. Altho I have never been more than 15-20 overweight (which is plenty bad enough), I have dieted on and off since I was a teen (now mid 50's). Betcha I've gained and lost more weight than most.

right now, my thyroid, which I suspect has been attacked by Lyme, is causing me great difficulty. I get too weak (hypoglycemia) if I eat too little, and following some of my past successful diets, I cannot get the pounds off!


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Post Edited (+Lyme) : 9/24/2009 7:43:35 PM (GMT-6)


1bitten2xshy
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   Posted 9/25/2009 4:24 AM (GMT -7)   
I have done real well on SouthBeach.

Tried Atkins and liked it...just did not like not getting all my veggies that I liked and wanted.

SouthBeach is kinda a modified Atkins.
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Dagger
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   Posted 9/25/2009 8:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Atkins works but is tough to stick with. Once you start eating low carb ice cream, low carb chocolate, and other low carb junk food, you stop losing weight. Like +Lyme said, if you cheat, you gain a lot. Atkins is a good way to start because you eat so much and feel full yet you still lose weight if you follow the rules. After you lose some weight, I suggest you slowly change your eating habits to something that you can stick with forever.

I believe that a lower carb eating style works best for many of us. Getting protein and non-starchy vegetables with every meal is a healthy way to eat. Adding in small amounts of starchy vegetables, low glycemic fruit, and whole grains makes it an eating style you can live with instead of a diet you eventually want to stop. Eat normal amounts of good quality protein, not tons of high fat bacon. There are even low carb diets for vegetarians that can give you ideas to expand your menu.

Plan one time a week where you will eat chocolate, cake, brownies, ice cream, or whatever you crave. Making it allowable instead of taboo gets rid of the guilt you feel when you cheat. You can freeze many of the goodies that you are tempted with on the non-cheat days and save them for your cheat day.

I know people that swear by Sugar Busters and Southbeach, they are both easier to stick with than Adkins.

MediFast may help with weight loss but what happens when you stop? It doesn't seem like something you can do forever so you will need to transition to regular food. From what I've read, that's when most people fail. Any diet that you eventually stop results in weight gain when you start eating regular food again. People that have successfully lost weight and kept it off usually don't diet. They completely change the way they eat and stick with that the rest of their life.

It is REALLY hard to change the way you eat. Whatever you choose, it has to fit your lifestyle and budget. Planning meals and snacks in advance cuts out impulse and binge eating. Taking food with you wherever you go removes the need to eat fast food. Carrying snacks that fit your plan makes it easier to skip the cake that magically appears when you are tired or stressed at work.

It is hard work but worth it. Design a plan and if it doesn't work, try something else. Unless you sign a contract or prepay for a plan, you can always change and try something else. Give it time, change doesn't happen overnight.

Good luck!!

alone&scared
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   Posted 9/26/2009 9:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much everyone! It is wonderful to know that the high protien, low carb works for all of you and does not upset your stomach. That is what I was most worried about. I have tried atkins several times in the past and failed, but only because I cheated and couldn't stick with it. However,the first time I did it, I got through the first 2 weeks (which is the hardest) and I think I list over 10 pounds in the first 2 weeks and almost another 10 in the second 2 weeks. But, I decided that i needed to drink alcohol. Dum dum. I got alcohol poisoning because I didn't have any starches to soak anything up. I was sick as a god for days, and I had to eat cracker, bread, etc. to calm my stomach. So, I gave up that time. The other times I haven't been able to make it through the first 2 weeks. My problem now is all of the bread, candy, cookies, etc. that I have. I don't want to throw it away. I think that I will eat like a piggy this weekend:) and then give the rest of my junk to my sister and start eating veggies and meat, etc. That way, when I start my lyme treatment, I will already be past the hardest part of it.
And, if I can't do it, then I will amend it. Thanks for the South Beach and Sugar Busters info. I have never heard of Sugar Busters. I have never tried south beach either.
And yes, veggies and meat are more expensive than junk food. Isn't that curious? But, it is still waaaaaaayyyyy cheaper for just me than medi-fast is. I have to buy frozen veggies though, because they always rot before I use them.Lol. Again, because I cheat.
I wonder why it is that we do these things to ourselves? I mean, we know that we will look better, feel better and be overall healthier if we eat right. And it isn't like meat and veggies disgust me. I love them! But, I love fritos and bread and brownies too!lol. Therein lies the problem. Well, that and I can't eat one and just stop. I eat like a piggy.
And, here I am rambling again! You are all so sweet for putting up with me!
Thanks again. This really helped me a lot. Starting Monday....whah!

LuluBellesMama
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   Posted 9/27/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I went on a "liquid diet" for a few months, lost 30 pounds. diet direct dot com has the shakes i drank, they are 100 calories each and i drank like 7 - 10 a day with 8 oz LEAN meat and a salad.

alone&scared
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   Posted 9/27/2009 5:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I have several times wanted to do a juice fast. I bought all the equipment, but could never last a day. i hate the feeling of liquid in my stomach and I was too weak to do it.lol. I did, however, have horrible stomach pains a couple of months back. All I could eat was, baby food, rice cakes and sometimes chicken and rice soup (from cambell's). Even then it still hurt, but I had to eat something. I did lose like 10 pounds, but it has all come back now along with some friends:)
I was thinking today that I think I may just cut back portions for now (if I can), and try to eat healthy without restricting anything really. But, if that doesn't work, which it probably won't, I will do Atkins. After I get throught the initial detox phase, I am not hungry at all on that diet, so I could then make wise choices that are low-carb or no carb. And, if I can't start at the beginning of the program, I will start somewhere in the middle of it and skip the nasty phase. I won't lose as quickly which is what I really want, but then maybe I will stick with it.
That is definitely the main thing for me. I have to stick with something. I am sure that a lot of the diets and stuff out there work, but I never stick to them, so I wouldn't know!

CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/27/2009 10:02 PM (GMT -7)   
If you decide to do the protein, you can get sugar free snakcs that taste just as good as the regular snacks. I find that I feel better eating protein and I stay full longer too. Just a FYI:)
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rcenters
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   Posted 9/28/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone here done well on Atkins? And more importantly, has anyone done well on a partial Atkins diet? I don't want to do full Atkins because I need fruits and vegetables for nutrition, but I am going to try doing a mix where I take 2 days a week and eat virtually just eggs and meat, or alternatively, 3-4 days a week where I eat only eggs and meat up until say, 5pm.

However, I can't find much testimonials on the internet about people doing a partial Atkins. Some places say you need to be low-carb for 3 days before you start burning fat like Atkins intends. I don't personally believe that but I can't possibly know.

Using a balanced(more or less) diet with exercise and eating above BMR, I've downed 25 pounds so far but it has taken 3.5 months. I'm hoping to get the last 10-15 off in one single month.

Dagger
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   Posted 9/28/2009 10:58 PM (GMT -7)   
rcenters,
The Southbeach diet may meet your needs better. It allows more fruit & vegetables than Atkins. It's pretty strict for the first two weeks but then you can eat a greater variety of foods.
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