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Traveler
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   Posted 10/5/2009 8:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi D!!!
Did you follow Dr. J's protocol?

What do you think about Dr. Cowdens' protocol?

I'm going to try to help my gp treat me & have a feeling I may need a back-up plan!!

Cowden states that his protocol only takes a few months usually to clear the TBI's from your body (I think that's what I read!)

BTW - were you up @ 6 a.m.???? EEWWWWWWWW!!!!!
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
- Traveler
"Conditions": Lyme Disease, STARI, RMSF, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Neuro LD, FM, Chronic/acute EBV, IBS-C, Diverticulosis (& "itis") & now Lyme arthritis (?).


Deejavu
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   Posted 10/5/2009 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Traveler,
 
Yes, I am an early bird!  Early to rise and early to bed..  
 
Anyway, yes, I followed Dr. Jernigan's protocol from his first book, he has a chapter called "Healing at Home" (original book) that I followed.  I had chronic lyme for over 10 years or longer and his protocol consists of taking botanicals for 8 months or so as well as learning how to detox (he is very big on detoxing), learning how positive thinking affects this disease, etc. 
 
He really addresses every aspect of lyme disease, not just the bacteria but mind, body and spirit as well.  His thinking is to restore the body and mind back to where it was before one got infected so then the body can fight the bacteria on it's own.   He believes as well as I that our bodies are very, very smart and not dumb at all.. 
 
Also, let's say a person had a traumatic episode or has emotional issues (prior to getting infected like divorce, death in the family, job loss, etc.), well, that must be dealt with or that person is not going to get better.   So he looks at the big picture, not just killing off bacteria. 
 
Anyway, I started feeling better the very first month after taking his Borrelogen which shocked me as I was not in the most positive state of mind, thought this was going to be another hoax..  But this man knows his stuff and I became better and stayed better.  I detox, exercise and try to eat as healthy as I can to "maintain" my health.
 
I am also impressed that Dr. J. had chronic lyme himself (almost died) so he walked down that road as well as the fact that he grows his own botanicals, tests them with Bio-Reasonance Scanning (something he invented)  before he bottles them and sells them.  That made me feel safe.  I also liked that fact that if I had questions (and I had plenty) that I was able to call his office and get advice.
 
As far as the Cowden protocol or even Zhang, I never followed either protocol so I can't really say anything about it. 
 
I say this to anyone who is considering alternative treatments, read the books about the protocols if one is written and then make up your mind.   You are your best advocate.  My attitude is try a protocol for a few months (starting with a "clean" body meaning one has no effects from a previous protocol), see how you feel and if not better, stop it, detox like crazy, and then try a different protocol.
 
Oh, I am not affiliated with Dr. Jernigan in any form or way, LOL!  Do I really need to put that in?  I know Razzle put in a line about Blue Bonnet, I thought that was margarine (sp?)! 
 
Hope that helps,
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


Traveler
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   Posted 10/5/2009 5:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanx Deejavu!!
I have a great deal of respect for you.
As I read this new book I got a short time ago, I have had a lot more info about natural, homeo & herbal tx's kind of put 'in my face'. The info on the abx routes is so very accessable & I have to admit - I was able to process that kind of info quite well - but that was oh so long ago!!! Now, it scares me to try to do anything like that on my own now.

The reason I was asking about Cowdens' was because in this book - he claims that a lot of his patients do very well on the condensed tx.

Although, the fact that Jernigans' tx can be done at home - hmmmm - gets my little tiny brain working!! Who knows?? maybe with it explained about what dose at what time, & with what herbs when, maybe even I can muddle through it well enough to get well!!

Thank you for all the encouragement & info you so freely give !!! =) =)
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
- Traveler
"Conditions": Lyme Disease, STARI, RMSF, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Neuro LD, FM, Chronic/acute EBV, IBS-C, Diverticulosis (& "itis") & now Lyme arthritis (?).


Willowrose
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   Posted 10/5/2009 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Deejavu,

May I ask the title of the book to which you are referring? Thanks.

Rose

Deejavu
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   Posted 10/6/2009 4:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,
 
Willowrose, the name of the book is called "Beating Lyme Disease" and the soft cover is less money compared to the hardcover.    If you want to order it, it can be ordered here:
 
 
Traveler,
 
I have a great amount of respect for you as well!  Yeah, I know about stuff being thrown in one's face..  it gets to be overwhelming right?
 
Anyway, I think the beauty of Dr. Jernigan's protocol is there is NO guesswork involved.  The entire protocol is planned out in his book (older version or newer version).   Dr. J. may have added some things but those are optional..   like the oil therapies for one.   I couldn't afford the oils, I could not afford to buy a sauna, etc.  So I did the real "basic" protocol.
 
His botanicals are mixed already as well as tested to work to restore one's body back to health.
 
Very simple for me as this is what I did (at home):
 
For 2 months I took Borrelogen and Neuro-Antitox CNS/PNS Formula (I mixed them together in water) and took that 3 times a day (with food or without food, does not matter).  
 
2 months later I stopped the Borrelogen and took Microbojen with the CNS/PNS.  Then I took all 3 together for 2 or 3 months, I don't remember the exact time frame (I do remember that I had some breaks due to extreme financial problems).
 
Prior to taking all 3 botanicals together it costs me $100.00 a month plus the cost of epsom salts and hydrogen peroxide.  I also took supplements (not mentioned in his book and I didn't ask) such as Aloe Master to clean my insides and Green Drinks (ended up with Green Vibrance which I still take).
 
So it's a really easy protocol..  I think the hard part is detoxing on a daily basis and eating right...   One has to incorporate all that so it becomes a daily habit like anything else...  Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks?  LOL!
 
Denise

It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


Willowrose
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   Posted 10/6/2009 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Denise - do you take all of those Dr. J things while you are also taking prescription Rx? Or are they a replacement for the antibiotics? I don't want to overwhelm my body (any more than it already is).

Rose
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