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mother natures child
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   Posted 12/10/2009 5:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I have weak legs. So weak that if I sit down in the middle of the floor I cant get up. Does anyone else have this?
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springsjean
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   Posted 12/10/2009 7:47 PM (GMT -7)   
That was one of my first symptoms 4 years ago.  It was very difficult to go up stairs. I had no idea at the time it was a common lyme symptom.

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   Posted 12/10/2009 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I get periodic muscle weakness as well.
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   Posted 12/10/2009 10:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I recently discovered that I do too. A couple of days ago I was at the drug store buying my usual megabag of epsom salt and giant bottles of peroxide for the cleansing baths. I hadn't gotten a basket, thinking I'd just carry the items to the register. They were at the back of a bottom shelf, so I stooped down to get them and then I couldn't stand up again. A man at the end of the aisle was watching me (and probably thinking I was nuts) as I struggled to rise. Having brain fog, too, it didn't occur to me to put the items down, stand up, and then pick them back up. Finally, during my struggle, after dropping one and then the other bottle of peroxide, which I managed to retrieve and stuff back under my arm, I dropped the epsom salt bag and figured out I should stand up first, and then pick it up. I've always had really strong legs, so it was shocking to find realize how much I had lost.

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Sunshine20090909
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   Posted 12/11/2009 6:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone know if the weakness is from the brain?
 
It doesn't seem to me that all of a sudden the legs or arms or whatever just looses strength.  It seems that it would be the brain that causes the weakness.
 
Just wondering.  Thanks.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/12/2009 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I have this too. It has been getting really bad lately. For my Daddy's funeral, I could barely get up out of the chair. My husband had to help me up. I was very embarrassed.

When I did CPR in school last year, I could barely get up off of the floor. I knew back then that something was wrong.

Sunshine: I think it could be neurological because I have a few days where my muscles seem fine. I can bend or squat and my muscles feel strong but most of the time, they are weak.
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   Posted 12/12/2009 11:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Cajun,
 
That is what I was thinking.
 
It's got to be the brain.  So what are we doing to treat the brain?
 
There are some abx which can penetrate the CNS.
 
Here is a list of some abx and it shows the CNS penetration.  According to the list Azithromycin is good for brain, CNS is poor.  Rif is good.  Metronizadole is Excellent.  Streptomycin has been left blank but I found a site which explainst that it is Excellent which may explain why it is used for Brucellosis.   The first list is not put out by any medical professional, but it seems to be a colaboration of medical opinions from www.lymepa.org.
The second link is information from www.Drugs.com
 
 
 
It seems to me that the zoonotic diseases target the Central Nervous System.  That they dull the nerve sensations, which could attribute to not being able to get out of a chair or off the floor.
 
What do we know about nerves?  We know that they work by stimulation.  The action is like electricity between the nerve endings.  We know that the space between the nerve endings have a relevant factor in how the nerve functions.  THC the chemical in marijuana causes the spaces to widen, thus slower reaction.
 
What causes the synapse or the space to shorten?  Caffeine?
 
Maybe with these zoonotic diseases it is just that the nerve endings are dull, damaged, dehydrated, or drunk.  Drunk from tne neurotoxins. 
 
That would account for why so many suffer from moments of rage or impared judgement and great fatigue.  The neurotoxins could be the responsible catalyst.
 
Can anyone enlighten me on this?  I am a bit confused on why the muscles don't want to function and why some people end up paralyzed.
 
Thank you.

Post Edited (Sunshine20090909) : 12/12/2009 11:21:07 AM (GMT-7)


Nicky D
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   Posted 12/12/2009 5:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I get this too. At first, I only noticed it in my arms, but now it effects my legs more than anything. It has NOTHING to do with physical fitness etc.- I was very active prior to it starting, and then "boom", in practically one day I had noodle legs. I was told it was neurological

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   Posted 12/13/2009 3:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Nicky,

I agree. That's why I think I have days that seem like nothing is wrong.
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   Posted 12/13/2009 9:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I get very weak in the legs. Since I'm also a weight lifter, I can say, I can lift a lot of weight in my legs and not feel weak, yet can get up from a chair and feel like my legs will buckle.

Not sure why this happens, but I've been trying to figure it out.

Sunshine20090909
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   Posted 12/13/2009 1:33 PM (GMT -7)   
http://www.eoearth.org/article/Neurotoxicity

I think the link above will explain how neurotoxins can get between the nerve endings and inhibit chemical reaction.

Also, for some verbal information there are 7 videos on youtube dealing with multiple issues and neurotoxins and how to rid your body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aHiNjNNaV0
The video mentions the use of Isonitol, chlorestrymine, and heparin.
 
I would suggest reading the first link before watching the video so that you are not confused when he is referring to different terms.

So, this should explain why it is tough to get out of bed, off the floor, and how you may not decide to drop articles in order to get yourself up in a store.

Post Edited (Sunshine20090909) : 12/13/2009 1:42:03 PM (GMT-7)

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