Brucella Anyone?

Have you been tested for the Brucella bacteria?
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Sunshine20090909
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   Posted 12/13/2009 9:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I am somewhat new here but I have read about 2 different people dealing with Brucellosis or possibly dealing with it.  Is Brucellosis considered a Co-infection of Lyme? 
 
I found this site regarding brucella and Viamin C.  It doesn't seem to be a in depth list of information, since there are no blood tests mentioned, and back in 1953/54 I don't think that they may have existed.  However, I found it interesting.  Gee, wouldn't it be great if you could cure a disease with Vitamin C?
 
While I don't think it is impossible, I don't think that it is as probable today as it would have been back then.
 
 
I had made a comment to on a post regarding vaccines to a woman who's daughter has brucellosis.  The comment included a website explaining that Streptomycin doesn't necessarily cure brucellosis.
 
After further research and some thought I think that maybe that particular medical document lacked proper dosing.  Some medical reports claim to give Streptomycin shots at a rate of one per week for six weeks, while others claim one each day for fourteen days.  That is a big difference.
 
I think the biggest problem with reading past medical documents is the fact that we really don't know how the immune system of the patient(s) functions.
 
There are so many variables that would impact ones success with treatment.
 
For instance, if you have the Brucella bacteria, you should avoid light.  Brucells is one of about 20 bacteria that grows in the blue spectrum of light.  Especially avoid all UV light.  Hughes Medical and Science Magazine in August 2007, put an article out pertaining to this. 
 
One of the biggest affects to your eyes can be either your TV or your computer screen.  Adjust the contrast and brightness to a comfortable level and see if your eyes feel better and your overall health is better.
 
Another affect on your body,  is sensitivity to radiation in the form of wireless networks and cellular phones.  I would suggest anyone with this diesease to get some sort of radiation field strength meter.  If you have wireless phones in the house it will be detected, along with cellular and networking systems.  You will also be able to see how strong the fields are.  For instance your wireless network may only exhibit a small blinking light with minimal field strength.  But, if you have a smart phone, it may be much higher than anything else and this would be something to avoid.  Turn off when not in use and always use speaker or just get rid of it and get one which is not so strong.
 
You very well, may feel better with a hardwired computer and telephone. 
 
I am interested in knowing who has  had to deal with the health issues of Brucella and how your treatment is going.  Also, I have read that two blood tests are suggested for this, if you have antibodies in the first Western Blot.
 
The Brucella show up as a Kilodalton 41, which is also a Lyme Kda.  For anyone who wants info
 
I guess my concerns are that many more people have this than they know of.  I don't like the testing for this because I read you should not have any antibodies if you don't have this, yet like Lyme, the blood test says you have to have a high enough number.  I am less than happy with the standards.  Either you have something or you don't, I am sick of hearing that the numbers aren't in the range.  It is like being a little bit pregnant.
 
The information is just what I have learned on my own, take it with a grain of salt, like you should with anyone's opinion.  I would like your opinions on this and it's association with Lyme. 
 
I wish all good health.
 
http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/Brucellosis.pdf

Post Edited (Sunshine20090909) : 12/13/2009 9:21:03 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 12/14/2009 5:42 PM (GMT -7)   
FYI for those with Lyme

V - Brucellosis Mycoplasma & Disease

AIDS The AIDS pathogen was created out of a brucellosis bacteria mutated with a visna virus; then the toxin was removed as a DNA particle called a mycoplasma. They used the same mycoplasma to develop disabling diseases like MS, Crohn's colitis, Lyme disease etc. In a United States congressional document of a meeting held June 9, 1969, the Pentagon delivered a report to Congress about biological weapons (described on page 129 of the document).


http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=267

ochiba
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   Posted 1/9/2010 11:24 AM (GMT -7)   
hello sushine!
 
like you, i feel brucella is an under reported/ under tested for disease... depending on which doctor i speak with, i'll get different answers as to my positive test results (about 10 of them--tests that is-- over the past two years)  .... my GP and PA have been wonderful at working with me and i am currently 6 months (out of a possible 18 month) into a doxycicline treatment 100 mg 2x daily along with other meds to ease the pains --- without the pain meds, i'd be bedridden  
i've been through lyme and babesiosis as well, but for all i know brucellosis could have been coexisting with those treatments going back as far as '96 ... my body for whatever reason dumped the antibodies for lyme -- if my gp didn't know my history, he'd swear i never had it-- over the years prior to the brucella treatment, as lyme-like symptoms would intensify, he'd prescribe doxy for anywhere from 3-6 weeks --- i'd start to feel better, but as i finished the treatment, my body would start to crash again -- looking back, all i was probably doing was making the brucella more resistant...
 
when i finally got my first positive brucella result, the Infectious Disease Specialist put me on doxy and rifampin --- he treated me as if it was acute case, even though i felt it was chronic --- i felt better for a longer period of time(maybe 2 months?) after that treatment, but once again my body crashed... a lot more to the story, but i'm a two finger typer with carpal tunnel and fibromyalgia rolleyes  so i've condensed somewhat smilewinkgrin
 
not sure if i answered your questions or not -- don't hesitate to ask if i can help
 
 i do feel it may be tick-borne, but not necessarily a coinfection of lyme --- if ya want a piece of my paranoid fun, do a search for brucella, tick, plum island --- i live in a rural area on eastern long island and ticks are a big part of life out here...
 
i feel if anybody has unresolved or severe lyme-like symptoms along with testicular pain and DRENCHING night sweats, they should ask their doctor to test for BRUCELLA... and if they don't, find a doctor who will
 
i was only tested because i insisted on it after doing a search for MS and similar symptoms  ... i like emedicine's write up on it best...
 
be well,
john

Post Edited (ochiba) : 1/9/2010 11:30:01 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 10/12/2015 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello all! Just recently diagnosis'd with Neuro Brucelosis. I thought I had lyme and demanded treatment for it even though my titers/western blot was negative. Thank God I did because atleast I was able to get on doxy. My amazing infectious disease doctor dug deeper and found that I was positive for Brucella, a common misdianosis'd as lyme disease. Now treating with bactrim/doxy and rifampin for atleast 6 months. So glad to have a diagnosis to what nearly killed me. Also positive for Myco, but I heard the two go hand and hand. I do also feel it's underreported and people who think they had lyme and can't get better, Brucella is probably their answer.

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   Posted 10/12/2015 4:07 PM (GMT -7)   
LEIGH68773 said...
Hello all! Just recently diagnosis'd with Neuro Brucelosis. I thought I had lyme and demanded treatment for it even though my titers/western blot was negative. Thank God I did because atleast I was able to get on doxy. My amazing infectious disease doctor dug deeper and found that I was positive for Brucella, a common misdianosis'd as lyme disease. Now treating with bactrim/doxy and rifampin for atleast 6 months. So glad to have a diagnosis to what nearly killed me. Also positive for Myco, but I heard the two go hand and hand. I do also feel it's underreported and people who think they had lyme and can't get better, Brucella is probably their answer.



Wow, way to go LEIGH! I'm glad you have a doc that is willing to dig. That's very unusual for a ID doc! Especially if Lyme is mentioned.

Could you tell us some of your symptoms, your background, and how this almost killed you??? People need to be educated.

I, too, feel that this infection is mis-diagnosed, under-detected, and under-diagnosed much too often! How can we think that Brucellosis is not a problem in the US when it is a very common problem in much of the rest of the world!? confused

Here are some points on Brucellosis by Stephen Phillips MD taken from last year's ILADS conference:

"-Muscle pain, creaking and cracking, fever, malaise, sweats, arthralgia, back pain, chills, significant weight loss, fatigue, headache, and other symptoms can present with Brucella.

-Elevated CRP, Elevated ESR (sed rate), and anemia may present.

-Lyme disables many from their career; Brucella disables you from every aspect of your life. It is incapacitating.

-Underdiagnosed illness.

-There is a range of symptoms as with many zoonotic infections.

-It is a gram-negative intracellular microbe.

-It becomes the puppet master of the cell. Unpasteurized dairy, animal exposures to body fluids, hunters, and laboratory exposures by aerosolization are common sources of infection.

-Humans are dead end hosts though transplacental, breast milk, and sexual transmission have occurred in the literature.

-12.8% of cases happen in the winter; 78% in spring and summer.

-It has been isolated from ticks and fleas for 60 years.

-Transmission has been demonstrated with lice and blood-sucking insects in nature.

-It is not as hard to culture as Borrelia, but very close.

-It is slow growing; takes weeks for a culture positive with frequent false negatives.

-Bone marrow would be the best culture source.

-PCR is useful but new strains are commonly found.

-Chronic cases are often seronegative.

-ELISA and Agglutination Antibody testing are the most common; complement fixation testing is available in Europe and is better but not available in the US.

-Streptomycin, Gentamicin, Doxycycline, Rifampin, Bactrim, or quinolones may be used.

-It is resistant to Ceftriaxone.

-Earlier treatment results in better outcomes.

-Single agent treatments don't work.

-Treatment less than six weeks results in high failure rates.

-Herxes can be severe or fatal.

-Aminoglycosides may be used for 3 weeks with Doxycycline or Doxycycline and Rifampin for 6 weeks.

-Aminoglycoside and Doxycycline combination is more effective.

-Streptomycin is equivalent to Gentamicin in terms of effectiveness.

-There is no agreed upon curative treatment for chronic Brucellosis.

-It has blebs, L-forms, and biofilms.

-Levamisole is an antiparasitic and immune potentiator.

-Antibiotics plus Levamisole were better than antibiotics alone; though Levamisole can cause autoimmune disease and was taken off the market in 1999.

-Ivermectin may be a good replacement for Levamisole and does potentiate immunity.

-Vitamin C may help.

-Polyporus umbellatus (mushroom) reverses Brucella induced immune anergy and activated macrophages.

-Gamma interferon is the principle cytokine involved in the protective response; no studies have been done.

-In a study with 3 groups of Brucella patients, the first group had Interferon Alpha, second had Levamisole, and third had conventional antibiotics. Groups 1 and 2 had clinical improvement and immune response. Group 1 did better than Group 2. Group 3 had no change.

-Liposomes mimic cell membranes and the immune system sees them as a foreign invader and gobbles them up. This can be used to enhance drug delivery and improve the outcome of some medications. Anionic (negative), Cationic (positive), or neutral.

-Liposomal Gentamicin study eliminated infection from monocytes; was 20 times more effective than free Gentamicin with reduced side effects.

-Would like liposomal aminoglycosides to be available.

-Brucella is related to Bartonella.

-True Brucella infection is not as common as Bartonella.

-Aminoglycosides may be a helpful option for Bartonella."


*Notes taken by Scott Forsgren (betterhealthguy)

- See more at: http://www.betterhealthguy.com/ilads-2014#sthash.psto1njO.dpuf

Lymie Girl
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   Posted 10/13/2015 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I would like to get tested for Brucella. I have a number of Brucella symptoms. It is considered a cousin of Bartonella-having a lot of similar symptoms.

I have read you can also get it from unpasteurized dairy products.

Thanks for all the great info TOOTY!

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   Posted 10/13/2015 10:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Lymie Girl or Tooty - Do you have any idea what lab/test to use for brucella? I plan on getting tested as well.

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   Posted 10/13/2015 12:41 PM (GMT -7)   
What test is the best one for Brucella??? That's the million-dollar question.

Testing for Brucellosis is as bad or worse than for Lyme. I wish IGENEX would develop and market a titer AND culture for it. Then I would feel we have a fairly reliable test.

I do know one person who got a positive thru Quest. But, it is a stealth infection, and the same low-immune/antibodies concern is an issue, just as in antibody testing for Lyme (meaning you don't show antibodies to it because your immune system is too weak to fight it).

PCR testing is not very good. (We all know it's limitations with Borrelia). A positive test is very specific and diagnostic, but a negative one is not definitive.

Concerning culture, as Dr. Stephen Phillips said, it can take weeks for a culture to turn positive for Brucellosis. The general laboratories like Quest and LabCorp only culture for maybe a week.

A company in Spain has developed a reliable test for chronic Brucellosis that is used world-wide, but it is not FDA cleared for marketing in the USA. The test is called Brucellacapt. Here is a link:

http://en.vircell.com/support/faqs/3-brucellacapt/

Interestingly, the CDC uses this VERY test to monitor the prevalence of Brucellosis in neighboring countries like Mexico. Go figure. It sure sounds like someone has something to hide in the US.

We just had this discussion over at Lymenet and one poster gave some links about the reliability of the Rose Bengal test. Trouble is, we don't know who offers this test, or if it is offered anywhere. It's a blood slide procedure that looks very simple, and could easily be made available in our own doctors' offices. I feel it's something our LLMDs should start doing. At least the ones that do microscopy.

To summarize, I don't know how accurate current testing is in the US. But, I would at least get tested with what's available at the regular labs. If you get a positive test, then you can "go to the bank" with it. But, if you get a negative, it ultimately comes down to symptoms and ABX response.

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   Posted 10/13/2015 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Kyo07,

I'm probably going to get tested through LabCorp. For Lyme, I went with IGENEX-no question. I am IGENEX positive for Lyme. Subsequently, I spent about $300 for an IGENEX Babesia test, which came back negative. It is too much money for unreliable (co-infection) tests. I had low expectations, but it still bothered me.

I agree with TOOTIE 1m percent that you can count on a positive result, but a negative result does not mean anything. Between our low immune systems and the numerous strains of each co-infection out there, co-infection testing is not reliable.

Previously, I had co-infection tests from Quest. They all came back negative. So, I might just try LabCorp and see if it comes back positive. In any event, I plan to discuss Brucella with my LLMD.

Maybe Advanced Labs should develop a culture test like the one they have for Borrelia. It would still be too expensive though.

(Thanks again TOOTY for the excellent info!)

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   Posted 10/13/2015 2:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I am thinking Labcorp too. Now the next question is, if testing is not good, how would you treat this. Doxy & Rif?

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   Posted 10/13/2015 5:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Babesiosis and Brucellosis have so much symptom overlap that it is hard to discern between the two. But there are differences. One thing that has dawned on me is that Brucellosis encompasses all the symptoms of Babesiosis, but Babesiosis DOES NOT encompass all the symptoms of Brucellosis.

A couple examples off the top of my head are these:


Babesiosis causes air hunger and shortness of breath...so does Brucellosis.

Babesiosis causes tippiness and loss of balance... so does Brucellosis.

Babesiosis causes hemolysis (destruction of red blood cells)...so does Brucellosis.

Babesiosis causes sweats...so does Brucellosis. (I forgot this symptom at first, but, since it is classic, I edited and added it).

But,

Brucellosis can cause a skin rash (usually maculopapular)... Babesiosis does not.

Brucellosis usually causes wasting...Babesiosis usually does not.

Brucellosis attacks the joints, especially the SI (sacroilliac joint) and lower back...Babesiosis does not.

Brucellosis causes genitourinary issues (particularly orchitis and epididymitis in men)... Babesiosis does not.

Brucellosis can be acquired by inhalation... Babesiosis cannot be.


Here are some good links that have really helped me understand Brucellosis:

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213430-clinical

http://www.savc.org.za/pdf_docs/Brucella_melitensis.pdf

http://misc.medscape.com/pi/android/medscapeapp/html/A213430-business.html

http://patient.info/doctor/brucellosis-pro

http://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/brucellosis/brucellosishuman.html

http://www.lyme-symptoms.com/CoInfections.html#Brucellosis

http://www.jabfm.org/content/21/2/158.full.pdf

http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/Brucellosis.pdf

Post Edited (TOOTY) : 10/14/2015 7:51:11 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 10/13/2015 8:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I had a positive brucella antibody test through sonoraquest. It was positive IGM and negative IGG, which is strange because I feel it is definitely chronic brucellosis. I also had a positive test for lyme and coinfections through immunosciences. The strange thing is, it seems as if all of my symptoms can be explained by brucellosis. Subsequent to the antibody test, another doctor ran another antibody test and a culture (for a week?) and they were negative.

Now I'm pretty much trapped in hell, as I don't have much evidence to carry me through the treatment which I imagine will entail quite a bit of time (or permanent vacation) from work. I cannot stress how unconscionable this is to have no reliable testing for this disease.

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   Posted 10/14/2015 10:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you so much TOOTY. I have so many of these symptoms. Check, check, check. I had no idea it was so similar to Babesia. I bet it gets misdiagnosed all the time. I also see that it causes neck pain and headaches similar to Babs. These are MAJOR symptoms for me.

I get the low back pain and sacroiliac joint pain. I thought the sacroiliac pain was Lyme. I get urinary frequency issues. I have shortness of breath, balance issues, nausea and dizziness. I probably could go on. Wow.

Thanks! I like having you around. :)

I see that Clongen does Brucella PCR testing. I have never used them. I definitely need to get tested and look into this. Maybe tweak my meds. I have been wanting to tweak them because I don't feel like I'm on the right combo.

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   Posted 10/14/2015 11:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Lymie Girl said...
I see that Clongen does Brucella PCR testing. I have never used them. I definitely need to get tested and look into this.


Yes, Clongen does Brucella PCR testing, and it is approximately $200.00. When I last talked to them, I had inquired about whether they offered a culture, the lab tech said they did. But as he checked to see if they had the necessary supplies for it, he admitted that they don't keep the culture medium needed for the culture in stock, and they couldn't just buy for one test. So, maybe if a wave of requests came in, they might see the importance of being equipped for it. But, he wasn't able to give me a price on it because of this though.

I decided to not pursue it with them because of these reasons, and also because the tech really praised the accuracy of PCR testing (for Brucella). Anyone with that mindset, especially someone in the field, really doesn't understand the reliability of chronic infectious disease testing, and it makes me doubt the competency of the lab itself. In the end, with a lab with that mindset, why spend $200.00 on PCR testing, when I could (and did) get PCR testing for Brucella (for 5 species) for a grand total of $29.90 thru Medical Diagnostic Labs in New Jersey?

Another perk about MDL is that you the patient can order a test kit and have it shipped directly to your home (you need to supply the name of your doc, and other info for the requisition form before they can ship it to you). All you need to do then is take it to your next doc visit. There are no fees charged for the kit until you get the results and then they bill you.

Unless PCR testing varies between labs, I say why pay $200.00 when you can get the same exact test for $30.00? Especially if you are self-pay!

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   Posted 10/14/2015 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for all the info Tooty!

My dr always suspected Brucellosis. But my serology test came back negative.
One of the symptoms I have is very specific, and unpleasant. It's not constant, it's almost like it cycles. When I sweat, it smells like wet straw or hay. Luckely not constant...
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   Posted 10/14/2015 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
TOOTY said...

In the end, with a lab with that mindset, why spend $200.00 on PCR testing, when I could (and did) get PCR testing for Brucella (for 5 species) for a grand total of $29.90 thru Medical Diagnostic Labs in New Jersey?

Another perk about MDL is that you the patient can order a test kit and have it shipped directly to your home (you need to supply the name of your doc, and other info for the requisition form before they can ship it to you). All you need to do then is take it to your next doc visit. There are no fees charged for the kit until you get the results and then they bill you.

Unless PCR testing varies between labs, I say why pay $200.00 when you can get the same exact test for $30.00? Especially if you are self-pay!


Thank you TOOTY! I'm going to order a test kit and talk to my doctor. I would imagine that it is very underdiagnosed.

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   Posted 10/14/2015 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
MarieLS said...
When I sweat, it smells like wet straw or hay.


Hey MarieLS,

My sweat has always smelled funny like that too! It sounds like you already know this, but one of Brucellosis' unique symptoms is that your sweat smells like that. I know of no other infection that causes that symptom. That's another symptom that differentiates Brucellosis from Babesiosis or even Bartonellosis.

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   Posted 10/14/2015 1:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, it is indeed very specific for Brucellosis, which makes me believe that my llmd is right in thinking I might have this infection.

Do you by any chance know how it cycles?

I get that smell every 3 to 4 weeks for a couple of days.
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   Posted 10/14/2015 1:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Lymie Girl said...
TOOTY said...

In the end, with a lab with that mindset, why spend $200.00 on PCR testing, when I could (and did) get PCR testing for Brucella (for 5 species) for a grand total of $29.90 thru Medical Diagnostic Labs in New Jersey?

Another perk about MDL is that you the patient can order a test kit and have it shipped directly to your home (you need to supply the name of your doc, and other info for the requisition form before they can ship it to you). All you need to do then is take it to your next doc visit. There are no fees charged for the kit until you get the results and then they bill you.

Unless PCR testing varies between labs, I say why pay $200.00 when you can get the same exact test for $30.00? Especially if you are self-pay!


Thank you TOOTY! I'm going to order a test kit and talk to my doctor. I would imagine that it is very underdiagnosed.


Lymie Girl,

I would just caution you about ruling Brucellosis OUT based on PCR testing if your results are negative. Mine are negative, too, but my symptoms point to a lifelong chronic Brucellosis infection even more than they do to Lyme Disease (for which I do have very positive test results for!). Even culture (which is the gold standard for Brucellosis and most all other infections) is not foolproof as Dr. Phillips has pointed out. PCR is very specific and diagnostic, but is not very sensitive.

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   Posted 10/14/2015 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
MarieLS said...
Yes, it is indeed very specific for Brucellosis, which makes me believe that my llmd is right in thinking I might have this infection.

Do you by any chance know how it cycles?

I get that smell every 3 to 4 weeks for a couple of days.



I'm not really sure without checking. I thought I had read that it is like Bartonella with an organism life cycle of 22-24 hours. That would suggest a daily flare in symptoms (which I have!). But, again, I don't remember for sure without rechecking.

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   Posted 11/3/2015 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
TOOTY,
 
   I LOVED THE INFO YOU PROVIDED ON BABESIA VS BRUCELLA. I WAS CONVINCED I HAD BABESIA, BUT LABS WERE NEVER POSITIVE. LOW AND BEHOLD, I TESTED POSITIVE FOR BRUCELLA. IT IS NOT MENTIONED MUCH IN THE LYME WORLD LIKE THE OTHER CO INFECTIONS ARE. I THINK THAT IS WHY ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT GET BETTER/DONT HAVE ANSWERS. IM SO THANKFUL TO HAVE A DOCTOR THAT WOULDNT STOP UNTIL I WAS BETTER. I AM BETTER, JUST SCARED TO DEATH OF COMING OFF ANTIBIOTICS. MUST KEEP THE FAITH! I MADE IT THIS FAR!
 
DOXY/RIFAMPIN/BACTRIM
 
LYME NEGATIVE EVEN THRU IGENEX
POSTIVE FOR EBV/MYCO/BRUCELLA
BLESSING TO ALL OF YOU
LEIGH

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   Posted 11/3/2015 4:14 PM (GMT -7)   
What lab did you test through Leigh68773? I was planning on Labcorp but my NP doesn't know much about Brucella.

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   Posted 11/3/2015 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I JUST spent TWO days between ND who wants to test for all the Co's & virals; took my ND' s lab orders to my MD who treats my thyroid & menopause, an asked her to order all of them, but my MD' s contracted phlebotomist had to spend 1/2 the day looking for billing codes and labs to send the tests in order for INSURANCE coverage!

Anyhoo, INTERESTINGLY enough she hadn't even heard of most of them including brucella, but found a lab @OHSU that specializes in research of so-called mutated crystallized form of brucella which is a Mycoplasma!!!! I say "so-called mutated" , as it is a weoponized brucella-scary stuff!

Anyway, my MD's in-house phlebotomist shopped around for all my tests; I hope & pray the labs are well versed!

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   Posted 11/5/2015 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I tested through my local lab/Quest.

Sweetpeaisme, I also read about the Burcella and Myco. I actually tested positive for both. I read in Dr H's book "Why Can't I Get Better" (highly recommend reading) that if you test positivive for Brucella, chances are you have Myco too.The Burcella organism contains the mycoplasma organism as well. At least that is what I read. I did hear of the bio weapons. My PCP is a little coo coo but I love him and he said he was worried about ISIS attacks on US now. A little bit out there, but you never know...

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   Posted 11/6/2015 5:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello everyone! Just wandering if anyone out there that has Brucella has flare ups consisted of random numbness in different places of your body? Scares me! Thanks!
LEIGH

BRUCELLA/MYCO

RIFAMPIN/BACTRIM/DOXY

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