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Deejavu
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   Posted 4/4/2010 8:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Razzle, good thing I type fast!  This is from his book and maybe it will help, maybe not...  I will tell you this, the remedies still taste horrible even with the alcohol removed!  Yuck!
 
1.  Dissipate the alcohol by water bath.  Put the required dosage of the liquid remedy in a small glass and warm the glass gently by placing it in a small pot of water that is only hot enough to be comfortable to keep your finger in.  Many plant substances are heat sensitive and some can be destroyed by a little as 110 degrees, just slightly hotter than a high fever so more heat is not recommended.   Allow the glass to sit this water bath for 10 to 15 minutes after which no alcohol should be remaining.  This technique is much like cooking with wine.  The alcohol in the wine cooks off, but the taste of the wine remains so if necessary to avoid a taste reminiscent of alcohol, the dosage should be mixed with a healthy juice with a strong enough flavor to effectively mask the taste.  Mixing the dosage in a small amount of fruit yogurt can be effective as well.
 
2.  Dissipate the alcohol by open air.   Put the required dosage of the liquid remedy over the surface of a non-flavored rice cake (available in most grocery or health food stores) and let the remedy to sit for 15 to 20 minutes to allow the alcohol to evaporate.  This process can be sped up by placing the remedy-saturated rice cake on the open door of a toaster oven or conventional oven so that only gentle, warm heat can pass over the cake without damaging the ingredients of the remedy.  Eat the cake as is or if taste masking is important, a light amount of an organic fruit spread can be put on top.
 
3.  People who are highly chemically sensitive (very little medicine can be taken orally) need to follow all of the recommendations they feel are possible as listed above.   The sensitivities can be minimized by first taking care to balance the Sympathetic Nervous System, primarily the care to balance the Sympathetic Nervous System, primarily the adrenal gland function.   This is best done by taking the oral tablet DSF-Formula by Nutri-West, and available only through a doctor.   DSF-Formula is important because it will help gently reduce the hypersensitivity of your body.  Taking Molybdenum is especially important since chemical sensitivities often are caused by the liver's inability to effectively deal with any chemical, natural source or otherwise.
 
Another very effective way to be able to take a liquid remedy is to use it transdermally.   To do this, follow the instructions above for water bath dissipation of alcohol to get the alcohol out of the remedy.  Take the resulting dosage and saturate a 3" x 3" gauze of a bandage and place it over affected area of the body.  Some people can tolerate this better than taking the remedies orally.   Transdermally applied liquid remedies are just as powerful if not more so, and therefore caution is advised.  The bandage should be replaced two times per day and at the very least be worn to bed at night.  This type of treatment works like the medicinal transdermal patches that are popular today.
 
A general rule of thumb is that anything you would eat or ingest can be used in an enema. 
 
Though unpleasant to some to consider, some find that it is beneficial to inject a post-water bath liquid remedy into the rectum in a retention enema.  A retention enema is done by putting a small amount of liquid into the rectum with the intent that it be held there without releasing it in an immediate bowel movement.  This is so that it can be absorbed into the body through the colon.  Use the same amount as you would normally use if the remedy were to be taken orally.  A small amount of water can be added to the dosage to aide in its delivery.
 
Question:  I am allergic to wheat, rye, barley and oats (gluten) and other things like soy and corn.  Isn't the alcohol you use a "Grain Alcohol," and if so, will I be allergic to the alcohol?
 
Answer:  All of the formulas which I developed use "Pharmaceutical-Grade 190-proof Alcohol," which means it is at least 95% pure alcohol and the remaining 5% is water.  If you look at the molecular formula for alcohol, it is CH3-CH-OH.   Gluten is a generic term when discussing "gluten intolerance."  
 
The actual molecule is a class of Gluten Exophines whose basic molecular structure is C25H30N4O7.  It is quite impossible to have a grain-type allergic reaction to the Pharmaceutical-grade alcohol even though it was distilled from various grains.   Periodically, you may read that a remedy is made from Potato Alcohol and is therefore "superior."  As you can see from the above molecular formula for alcohol, every alcohol is CH3-CH-OH, and one is no more or less superior if it is 190 proof.   Also, if a remedy were made with less than 190 proof alcohol, such as 90 proof alcohol, there is the possibility of grain molecules remaining in the alcohol.   In this case there is a slight possibility of an allergic reaction in a highly sensitive person.
 


It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 


Razzle
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   Posted 4/4/2010 9:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Cool - thank you for typing all this info for me! I'd probably try the transdermal method, because heating and evaporation do not sufficiently remove the alcohol for me (tried it before and can still smell/taste the alcohol; also was told it was a myth that cooking removes all the alcohol).

Yes, my liver detox pathways (methylation cycle) are messed up - I get molybdenum daily in my IV line, but need additional stuff I haven't been able to get yet to compensate for the genetic variants that have my methylation cycle. I know Lyme has contributed to the dysfunction (by overloading some of the enzyme pathways), and maybe even has triggered some of these genetic variants.

For more info on methylation cycle, see http://www.heartfixer.com/AMRI-Nutrigenomics.htm

Thanks again for all your efforts! Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


Deejavu
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   Posted 4/5/2010 4:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh Razzle,
 
You are too intelligent for me.. 
 
Is this the site you posted?
 
 
It's looks like a foreign country to me!  LOL!
 
And yes, you are right about alcohol, I did some research and it is a myth about removing all the alcohol (I should have saved the chart I found), wow, so when I was on Dr. J's protocol I was putting some alcohol into my body..  Holy bananas!  Good thing it didn't trigger me into anything bad..    I swear I didn't taste any alcohol, just those horrible tasting botanicals which was mixed with lots of water..   
 
Glad I was able to help a little bit,
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 


Razzle
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   Posted 4/5/2010 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, that's the site I posted... I can't figure out how to make the links clickable, LOL!

Nutrigenomics and methylation cycle stuff is pretty complicated...can't say I understand it fully either, but since I've been reading about it for a long time, it seems to have sunk in a bit. Thankfully my LLND seems to understand it, and recognize the limitations the variants place on treatment options, etc. for me.

I have extremely sensitive taste buds/nose...possibly from the Lyme, I don't know. It seems my sense of taste & smell have always been more sensitive than anyone else's in my family.

Thanks and take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


+Lyme
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   Posted 4/6/2010 6:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Razzle, for how long have you been sick (I think you've said almost forever). Are you getting better at all? Or do you at least feel some improvments? You are so smart and know so much about this, I would think you would be improving! Please let us know. And please know that ALL of us appreciate all your knowledge and compassion. And all of us know that you need this (compassion and prayers) yourself!
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
 
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.


Razzle
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   Posted 4/6/2010 2:15 PM (GMT -7)   
+Lyme,

It feels like I've been sick forever... My first Lyme symptoms showed up in 1978 or so, which means I've been sick for over 30 years.

Yes, there is some improvement...the joint pain & wandering leg pains have been significantly reduced by the antibiotics (after a 6-8 week period of flaring when I first started the Doxycycline...herx, probably).

My gut is still quite a mess, though...and I'm getting so tired of it being a constant battle just to get a few bites of food in (no apatite, nausea when I do try to nibble on something, very limited options for foods that my stomach actually lets me put in, even fewer options due to dysmotility further down, etc.)... Oh yeah, and there is the inability to sleep at a normal time, no matter how tired I feel (probably an adrenal issue - and I need to get my nighttime oxygen machine going again).

Wish I could get past this gut stuff - then I could deal better with the other symptoms, and I don't think the other symptoms would be as bad because maybe I'd be able to actually absorb some nutrition and the herbs & stuff that help.

Thanks for asking...take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


Deejavu
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   Posted 4/6/2010 2:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Razzle,
 
I really feel for you.. I can't imagine feeling sick for over 30 years, wow, that's a long time.   And not being able to eat and sleep..  I don't know how you do it.. 
 
Did you have allergies before you became infected with lyme bacteria?  How was your immune system prior to getting sick? 
 
I think about you alot to be honest as I wish I had some answers for you..  I know you are seeing the best possible doctors..  Yet I would be so happy to see you get completely well..  You deserve that! 
 
I wonder what would happen if you stopped most of what you are taking...  would your immune system get stronger?  Would your allergies start going away?   Would your gut feel better?  Just random thoughts..   
 
Denise 
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 


Razzle
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   Posted 4/6/2010 4:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Deejavu,

The only allergy I had before I was infected was to soy. After infection (if it happened when I & my doctor thinks it did), I slowly developed more and more allergies, to foods, pollens, medications, even volcanic ash...and now am chemically sensitive in addition.

I have no information on the status of my immune system prior to infection (I was too young to remember). But I don't know for sure - I did have more ear infections than my older Brother (he's only 1 year older), but that's all I know.

If I stopped taking what I am taking now, I would most likely be back in the hospital again. When I stopped antibiotics last year, I got severe joint pain, bladder pain, etc. and I am still trying to get back to where I was prior to tapering down the Ceftazadime.

My immune system was horrible prior to the current supplements/medications and that is what lead ultimately to the Lyme diagnosis in 2007.

Allergies would be a lot worse also without the allergy medications...that's why I'm taking them. My Asthma flared up last year, which is what led to the use of Singulair. I get sores in my nose from severe allergies when not on the abx, also...my Allergist says it is from the sinus inflammation and congestion.

No, my gut would not feel better...I would have to go back to 24/7 TPN (vein feeding) without the meds. Domperidone enables me to swallow and eat some solid foods (reduces the symptoms of slow stomach emptying). I'm still trying to figure out how to get hydration without having to resort to IV fluids daily, but my gut is still unable to tolerate much liquid (swallowing water, if I can get it to go down at all, or putting water through my feeding tube, causes severe esophageal spasms, reflux, nausea, etc.).

Without the liver herbs, my liver would get worse again also (the TPN causes fatty liver, and if ignored, would ultimately lead to a need for transplant).

While it is possible the Doxycycline is causing the apatite suppression & nausea, I had these problems prior to starting the Doxy, so I don't know really how much the Doxy is contributing. Since the Doxy is via IV instead of oral (can't swallow pills), my guess is the effect on the Gi tract is minimal compared to the oral version.

At least now I'm on Doxy finally in an attempt to beat back the Lyme (and possible Ehrlichia/Anaplasma...test results haven't come back yet from IGeneX despite sending the sample in clear back in January!). I kept being told last year & the year before that I was too sick for Lyme treatment...but desperation pushed me to the point of doing some arm-twisting of my doctor and he finally agreed we needed to get started on that.

Thanks for your concern and prayers - they are much appreciated. It has been a long road to diagnosis, and I can only assume it will be a long road yet to go until I am able to get somewhat of a life back again...

Take care,


-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


+Lyme
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   Posted 4/10/2010 9:34 AM (GMT -7)   
You are definitely in my prayers, Razzle.  There has got to be an answer for you, somewhere, somehow!
 
I, too, believe I got a TBI over 30 yrs ago. I had problems for a long time, nothing so severe as yours, but sometime during the 90's and early 2000 I experienced excellent health and strength for a long time.  (except for back and neck and recurring depression. hmmm... that doesn't sound so excellent, does it?) So was it resolution or remission? Looking back, I think I could possibly have been kind of manic.
 
I was a single mom w/ 3 kids. Not only did I exercise 2 hrs per day (was a fanatic), I waited tables for 16 yrs in a very busy bar/grill, while wearing ankle weights!! Survived OK on 4-5 hrs per sleep per nite + a 50 min nap.  So, seems there was no lyme in all that!
 
Anyway, with all that you are doing, I will pray that SOMETHING quickly kicks in and kicks this monster in you. Miracles do happen.....
 
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
 
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.


Razzle
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   Posted 4/10/2010 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks +Lyme. I appreciate the prayers. After an MD once told me to stop researching, I got mad and started researching harder, LOL! So I have no intention on giving up looking for answers, wherever they may come from.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


Deejavu
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   Posted 4/11/2010 8:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Razzle,
 
Funny, I had constant ear infections as a very young child too to the point where I would actually go deaf.  Then in my 20's I saw an ENT who put those rubber tubes inside my ears, yeah!  I still have ear problems but not as bad..  mostly wax buildup..  
 
I still think I was infected with lyme bacteria when I was a kid..  have no proof and it really doesn't matter now..
 
Darn, if I had the money I would pay for you to go to Dr. J's clinic.. I just know he could do wonders for you..   And don't stop that researching!  If I didn't research I wouldn't have diagnosed myself with lyme after seeing endless amount of doctors who kept giving me all the wrong diagnoses.. 
 
Hang in there,
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 


Razzle
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   Posted 4/11/2010 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Deejavu. The trip to Hansa Center would completely wipe me out, but would be worth it probably... But I am holding out hope that my LL-Naturopath here can at least get me back to where I was before 2005...he is trying hard, bless his heart.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.

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