cowden and still not getting well!

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   Posted 4/21/2010 4:36 PM (GMT -7)   
i have been on the cowden protocol condensed for almost 6 months now, after trying extensive antibiotics, many different combos and some really high dosages for a year and a half! i didn't get worse, but i was not getting better either, after 1 month on cowden, i saw my first small changes! i'm not reverting, but i am still not seeing continual change, even small ones. i have cut out all flour, most grains and sugars and anything that turns to sugar. i still have some sprouted grains, and chocolate sometimes. i also have 3-4 tea cups of coffee a day. i just got tested for food allergies and i am not allergic to anything! i have been sick for almost two years, and am still not getting well. any thoughts, ideas, advice? i would gladly accept any!

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   Posted 4/21/2010 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
The abx more than likey knocked your entire PH and system off balance.

Are you or were you detoxing while on abx?

What are your symptoms and what abx did you take?

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   Posted 4/21/2010 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you considered the Jernigan protocol? If you look you'll find a thread called "Hansa Center Update" (or something like that) and it's got a lot of information on it about this protocol. If can't find it let me know and I'l send you the link. Here's the website to the Hansa Center

Sorry you're not making a lot of progress on the Cowden protocol. It's often times hit and miss, you never know which herbal protocol is going to work (if any). However, the Jernigan protocol uses natural homeopathic remedies that have worked wonderfully for me. There's another member here, Deejavu who's posts here and she did the protocol at home and got better in 8 months. She's still doing great!

Let me know if you have more questions.

P.S. If you go to this link "New to Lyme....Start Here" you'll find a detox bath recipe that some of us here have done on an almost daily basis. I always feel better after a detox bath. Toxins in our bodies are what causes most of our miserable symptoms. Are you doing anything for detox?


Post Edited (GWB) : 4/21/2010 6:28:57 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 4/22/2010 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
You could also have a coinfection, I gradually got worse until i started babesia treatment, although I fear I have a long way to go yet. Enzymes also helped some, at first my abx seemed stronger from lumbrokinaise, now i don't notice much difference though. some say the biofilms use metals to form a wall, so metal/mercury detox can be helpful.

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   Posted 5/1/2010 7:40 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for you input, everyone! in the cowden protocol are different detoxs, but i was wondering if it is ok to do a full detox, a ten day garden of life Gentle Cleanse; i just don't know if you can do it WHILE on the protocol. i am not taking any antibiotics: i was on so many already, and they didn't do anything but prevent things from getting worse; nothing got better till one month into cowden protocol. but it doesn't seem to be changing for the good, continually........i am also taking a garden of life probiotic, which is awesome, and cod liver oil. i've been on the protocol for 6 months now, and i'm just wondering if there is anything else i can do? i have been tested for hundreds of other things, such as co-infections, heavy metals, and allergies...everything has been negative. i'm going to try and cut out ALL grains, ALL flour, ALL sugars and things that turn to sugar, but i just get so stinking hungry! symptoms include pain and swelling in all joints, stiffness especially in morning and evening. any thoughts or input would be so very appreciated! thank you!
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