Heparin injections anyone?

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LizW
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   Posted 7/25/2010 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone take heparin injections for thick blood? I have so much anxiety that I am afraid to do it. Did anyone have allergic reactions?

Liz

bucci
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   Posted 7/26/2010 7:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Li,

Of all the treatments I have tried for all this the heparin shots twice a day was the
most helpful and signiificant.

Before the heparin I was having headaches that felt like mini strokes.

My brain function is much better andthe headaches only come on now when I eat
food that gve me that liver gallbladder syndrome.

I am curious how the shots may even help your anxiety. Thick blood is dangerous.

Some people can take systemic enzymes and ansperin to keep blood thin but many chornic fatigue and lyme people have such thick blood that it can make all kinds of other symptoms.

just take you doctor's advice..
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DocGP
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   Posted 7/28/2010 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
I did do heparin for awhile, before I went to a LLMD. I didn't feel any differently, but I hadn't started any antibiotics at that point. I was just reading some papers on heparin and lyme today. It probably works as an adjunct to therapy by disallowing the spirochetes to sort of latch on to blood vessel walls. If they can't latch on, they cannot burrow in. But, to me, it only makes sense to do it if you are also attacking spirochetes with antibiotics. However, the research on that stopped in the 90's.

Very few people have allergic reactions to heparin, but anything can happen. The bigger concern is "over-thinning", but I say that with quotes because it does not actually thin one's blood. It just sort of makes it less sticky...meaning that you can't clot as well as you can when off the drug. The doses usually used for Lyme patients are low, like 5,000 units subcutaneously daily. That's just enough to keep you from clotting easily, but not enough to really be dangerous, unless you have other problems or take other drugs that affect clotting. You will probably bruise somewhat at the injection sites, but that's not dangerous.

The literature on heparin is intriguing and I think it may be helpful in the right situations...but, it needs more study.

bucci
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   Posted 7/29/2010 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
hi DocGP...so if you aren't on antibiotics the heparin is it doing anything?
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DocGP
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   Posted 7/29/2010 2:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't think there is enough literature to prove it one way or the other.

bucci
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   Posted 7/29/2010 3:58 PM (GMT -7)   
docGP.. what about the blood work for thick blood?I forget the name of the test..PPT?

I was put on heparin after doing the thick blood test. I also remember reading I think in the book From Fatigue to Fantastic ( but may have been another book ???) that people with chronic fatigue and lyme have thick blood and need heparin. Tow of my lyme doctors tole me they were on heparin for 2 yrs but I also know they were on antibiotics too for that long and did all the natural stuff. One of them is a naturopath doctor. also they got well.

so what do you mean when you say no literature to prove it either way if heparin works? isn't it in the testing.

I did read in Dr Hansa center's book that the thick blood is also a problem and you can tell by the purple blood clusters under the tongue.
I can't remember what he recommends though for thinning out the blood.??
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