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Traveler
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   Posted 7/27/2010 4:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all!!
I just wanted to give a little update, since I am now finally back under some sort of treatment, but first I want to thank everyone for all of their kind words to me while things didn't look so encouraging to me.

My acu doc has told me that we have reached our goal with the liver flush!!! So I'm done with that - for now. Although I will never look at OJ the same again!!!

With my tx for adrenal fatigue/exhaustion, my salt craving are finally slowing down!!!

My nausea is almost nonexistent now!!!

My pain levels are lowering a little now as well.

A lot of my muscle spasms & twitching is gone, along with a good portion of the creepy crawlies under the skin. Heck!! Even some of the burning feelings are down!

My energy levels are still quite low, but I feel like I am finally making progress.

It sure feels good to be getting better!!! smilewinkgrin
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
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   Posted 7/27/2010 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Traveler,

That is awesome news! I've been wanting to do a liver flush. I'm sure that would make me feel a whole lot better. Your liver has so much to do with the functioning of your body.
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   Posted 7/27/2010 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Good news, Traveler. Keep fighting!

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   Posted 7/27/2010 5:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks CG!!!
I agree about the liver. The one I did was pretty easy & seemed quite gentle, although like I said, I'll never look at OJ again in the same way!!

Did I mention almost no nausea?? giggle smilewinkgrin That is/was such a huge issue for me! I would get car sick even if I was the one driving!

This really is something that I keep forgetting to mention, though. My acu doc has been using what is known as ear 'tacks' on me. The first ones were placed to help with general stress/calming. This visit she added another for my kidneys/ liver function after we discovered that is where I had a weakness.

Today she also used 'Moxa', as well as electrical stimulation of certain points on my back.

Next week she is going to try to have some herbal treatments for me to start.
I'm pretty excited about all of this --in case you couldn't tell -tee hee!!

How are you doing?
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav


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   Posted 7/27/2010 5:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you achievinggrace!!
I feel like I wasn't given any weapons to fight this war going on in my body until now!
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav


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   Posted 7/27/2010 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I am doing so so. Still trying to get this RA under control. As soon as I get that under control, I want to start a natural treatment myself.

I'm so glad you are doing better. I know how long you have struggled.
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   Posted 7/27/2010 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow-weeeee Traveler!  Sounds like you are really doing fantastico!  Way to go!
 
I should do a liver flush too, I never did one and always wanted to..  You crack me up with your statement "I will never look at OJ the same way again" LOL!   I can't drink OJ from a carton or bottle so if I decide to do this flush, I have to squeezeeeeee my oranges..  smhair idea smhair
 
Ear tacks?  Do they look like earrings?  Wow, just when I thought I knew some things, I learn something new every day..  Many moons ago I went on a cruise with my Great Aunt and even though I am a boat person my doctor gave me an ear patch just to make sure I wouldn't get sea sick..  Hey, it was a 10 day cruise so I didn't want to take any chances...  Guess it's not the same as a tack, right?  Duh!!\
 
Anyway, keep up the good work!!  Sounds like you are on the right road.. 
 
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   Posted 7/27/2010 6:48 PM (GMT -7)   
This is fantastic news, Trav! Especially after all your suffering and struggling! Hey, you might wanna add PRAYERS in there along w/ your treatments! They seem to be working, huh?

Please tell me your treatment for your adrenals. I do not crave salt, but crave a couple other things that aren't good and have NO appetite for regular food. I am certain I'm also struggling w/ adrenal fatigue -- last yr's labs showed it and I"ve never had treatment, have tons of the symptoms -- most of what I've looked at for treatments are common sense -- no sugar, plenty of sleep, no stress, no overdoing, etc. Easy to say, huh?

So you have (had) creepy crawlies under your skin? And not just muscle spasms? I ask, because I have creepy crawlies in my feet.

It's really great to hear some good news from you! Don't forget to tell about your adrenals, OK?
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   Posted 7/27/2010 7:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Traveler, I am so happy to hear that you are doing better. You sound great! Can you tell me, are the acupuncture treatments for treatment of symptoms or do they also help to get rid of this stuf? And with the liver flush, I take it you had to drink a lot of OJ. Even when not on abx, I can't drink that because it is so sweet. Do you know, can it be done with lemon juice?

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   Posted 7/28/2010 1:05 PM (GMT -7)   
** I will happily share all of the info I can - well, all that I can remember anyway!! eyes BUT please, please remember that I am under a doctors' care while doing these things - so if you are not, please be careful!!**

LOL!! Deejavu!!!! Now you're the one cracking me up!!! No, the ear tacks don't exactly look like earrings!!! They actually look like little bitty tacks -only made with a much, much smaller gauge metal. The other thing is that they are placed on the upper part of the ear - not down on the ear lobe. They are not very noticeable, though, as they come with a small patch of what looks like a bandaid.

about the liver flush - the juices used have to be fresh squeezed, the store bought kind has to be heat-treated (pasturized) which destroys a lot of the 'good stuff'.
Willorose~ Is OJ too sweet if you squeeze it yourself? I use a food processor that is known as a "Victorio" & I put the first few oranges, peel & all through it so that I would get some of that good stuff that is in the rind as well. Also, my acu doc said I needed to use a combo of citrus - not just one - but I mainly used OJ, so that was the flavor that was the most prominate - other than the garlic!!

Here's the recipe;
each a.m., at least 30 minutes before any food -
* 8 oz of citrus - must be a combo of fresh OJ, with grapefruit, lemon or lime.
* 1 Tbsp. olive oil
*1 - 2 cloves of
fresh pressed garlic
* about the same amount of
fresh pressed ginger

I was instructed to do this for 10 days, and although I had doubts that it could work (it seemed 'too simple' of a recipe!), at the 9 day mark, I had results!!

The acu treatments that I am receiving right now are to help to get bodily systems to start working correctly again. From what I am understanding, I will begin treatment for my TBI's soon, but very little is being done for the pain I have, by my choice. I told her that at this point in time, what I am doing at home is keeping my pain levels at a tolerable level - for now. I believe that if everything was working properly, I won't have as much pain & what pain I was left with would most likely go away with tx of my TBI's. With that being said, there is a lot of scientific evidence that acupuncture is really good to help control pain. That is why my hubby goes - he is bone to bone is three different places in his back & 1 place in his neck, and acupuncture is on e of the few things that he can do while on cumadin.


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My acu doc put me on "NatraBio" Homeopathic Adrenal Support & had me take 3 a day. I was sure surprised as I began to feel more stable & then suddenly my salt cravings started to decline!! It was waaaaaaayyy too simple of a thing to do!!! :-)
Oh, those lovely creepy crawlies!!! Yeppers!! I have had them for a lot of years, everywhere.
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav


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   Posted 7/28/2010 3:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Trav: Do you not do coffee enemas or anything with the liver flush? What do we expect on the 9th day (as you said) to happen? I have seen similar flushes but you do coffeee enemas as a way to get rid of the toxic build up. Just do this for 10 days and thats it? I desperately need to flush my liver as my bilirubin was elevated last lab check. thanks  Dowa

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   Posted 7/28/2010 3:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Traveler, I hate to be so dim, but I don't know what "fresh pressed" means. Do you mince the garlic and ginger? They seem to hard to squeeze juice out of them. Do you need a special gadget for this pressing? Ultimately, do you only include the juice from garlic and ginger, or the fibers also? I do think most oranges are too sweet, but if I look for ones that aren't very ripe, they should be ok. Thanks for the information.

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   Posted 7/28/2010 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Dowa,
No, I was not instructed to do any kind of enemas. I have told her that I do dry skin brushing (when I can remember) and detox baths a couple of times each week, maybe she was seeing evidence that I was able to detox enough by doing only those things?
I really hope this isn't "TMI" for a lot of folks!!!
On the 9th day, my stool looked like I had gone across the road into the cow pasture, picked up a cow 'patty' (with a shovel, of course) & carried it back to my toilet!! I was a little startled by the color - I have never seen that color before!! - but looked it up on-line & found out that bile starts out green, and if your stools are green it indicates that there has been a "decreased transit time" which did not allow for the color to change from green to brown.
So when I told my acu doc about green stools, she said "Oh good!! No need to do a 2nd round of the liver flush!"


Hi Willowrose!!
You aren't being dim - I just haven't managed to use the right words so that it makes sense for you is all!! I went to Walmart & purchased a $5.00 "garlic press". It was in the kitchen gadget area. Once I had the garlic peeled, I just put the whole garlic clove into the press, unless the clove was too big to fit, then I just cut it in half. I would squeeze the garlic until it got squished through those little holes & using a sharp knife, I scraped the "pressed" garlic off into my glass.

As for the ginger, I did have to cut that into smaller pieces. I then put them into the "garlic press" & squeezed really, really hard several times to get as much juice & scraping as much 'pulp' as I could into my glass.

I was sure to add the olive oil first, then the garlic & ginger so that the oil would coat both (which cut the strength of the flavor way down) & then add the combo of juices.

I hope I was able to answer your questions, but if not please ask again - I don't mind.
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav


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   Posted 7/28/2010 5:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Trav. I did something very similar years ago but with the added enema. I was told  back then that the green in my stools were gallstones as they were formed. I was amazed at how easy it was, like you said. Thanks for the instructions!

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   Posted 7/29/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Oops!! I seem to have forgotten to add that I am taking large amounts (4 grams) of powdered ginger root daily as well. I used to have to carry around a 'script for nausea, but after one week on the ginger, I have not had any major issues with nausea!!!
I am also on large amounts of Vit. C, although it has nothing to do with the Vit.C/salt protocol for LD.

Dowa,
my entire stool was green & -without getting too gross I hope- looked just like a cow patty in content. I had my gall bladder removed a little while ago, so I don't imagine what I was seeing had anything to do with gall stones.
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav


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   Posted 7/29/2010 4:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Traveler,  thanks for telling me about the ear tacks, LOL!
 
Your poop sound very interesting!   Dr. J. wrote an article about poop not long ago (I should go look for it) as that tells much about a person's health. 
 
Traveler, cow patty?  I am laughing so hard!!  yeah
 
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   Posted 7/30/2010 6:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Deejavu!!
Yeppers!!! Cow patty!!
Please don't tell me that after all of the interaction you & I have had here, that you are just now noticing that I'm just a little "off center"???? Giggle!!!

BTW- If you find that article, I would be very interested in reading it!
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav


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   Posted 7/30/2010 5:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Traveler,
 
I started a new thread about Poop which includes that blog from one of the doctors from the Hansa Center..    You are a little off center?  I'm totally nuts and I love being nuts!   Normal people bore the ***** out of me..  LOL!!
 
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   Posted 7/30/2010 8:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Traveler.  I was just rereading your post and have some questions I hope you won't mind answering.  I notice you mentioned burning - this is very new for me.  It's nerve pain, right?  I have it in my lower legs mostly, and in my left arm a little.  I also noticed you mentioned nausea, which is also new for me (last few days).  Powdered ginger - how do you take it.  Any suggestions you can give would be appreciated.  I feel awful and need help.
 
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   Posted 7/31/2010 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
ROFL - DeeNuts - OHHHH!! The fun I could have with that!!!! smhair
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Willowrose,
As I said I don 't mind people asking questions - that's how we learn!
I do wish that I had a really good answer for you about the burning nerve pain. I have to assume that the actual acupuncture, as well as the ginger, that is helping with that. And, unfortunately, as of yesterday, I have realized that I am heading back into my pain cycle. For me I have noticed that every 3 -5 months, I go through a relatively short (several weeks only) period where the pain I have really escalates. I assume it is because of the natural cycles that TBI's go through & the need to detox - which is what I am doing as soon as I finish this post!! I am a chicken rolleyes & don't want to have to face day after day of excruciating pain, so off to my regular gp I went to get some pain meds - fortunately, he is an understanding doc, who believes me!!

about the ginger, I went to our local health food store & bought ground ginger root -per my acu docs instructions. She wanted me to take 1/2 tsp, heaped heavily, three times a day. Here is a pretty good explanation of some of the benefits of ingesting ground ginger root, although I'm not sure what dosage would be needed to achieve all of the actions written about in this web page.

www.herballegacy.com/Young_Medicinal.html

As you will see in this article, ginger is good for sooo many things!! A few examples - reduces pain & inflammation, muscle spasms, improves digestion, increases circulation, and can help increase the effectiveness of ABX.

To take ginger internally, I tried to drink it as a tea, but I am waaaayy too much of a whimp to continue that!!! blush So I use "00" size capsules (can be purchased at most any health food store) and literally pack the ginger, quite tightly, into the bottom half of the capsule, & put on the top of the capsule. 3 capsules, packed tightly, will render very close to 1/2 tsp of powdered ginger. I take 3 capsules, 3 times each day.


One more time, just to make sure there is no question - but not directed at any one person;

I am not medically trained, this is only a description of what I do, not a suggestion that anyone else should do this as well.

Although I do hope this helps someone!!!
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!!
May we all find peace along the journey to find healing.
"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav

Post Edited (Traveler) : 7/31/2010 11:31:38 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/31/2010 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Traveler, how wonderful that you're feeling better!! That's such great news!!!

Thanks for sharing the info too.....although I'm on standard abx treatment right now, I'm going to have to stop the IV Rocephin because I can't afford it anymore. :(

So I'm VERY interested in reading about ANY protocol that works!!!

(((((hugs))))))
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   Posted 7/31/2010 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
The key for me was finding a good acu doc who is actually interested in doing more than just a little bit of acu for pain control - as we have sooooo very much ore going on with us. The acu doc I see is quite inexpensive, and is interested in actually correcting imbalances & stagnation. She also has had any years of training in many different aspects of natural healing, is a Master Herbologist, uses Traditional Chinese Medicine, and Modern Chinese Medicine, along with many other modes of healing.
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!!
May we all find peace along the journey to find healing.
"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP
Trav
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