Ear Pain while on abx?

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Simela
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   Posted 8/27/2010 8:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I started to have pain in my left ear over 2 weeks ago.  It comes and goes throughout the day, but it is there most of the day every day.  I have been on amox for Lyme for 2 weeks.  THe abx did not make the pain go away.  I have seen my dr and he said my ear is clear.  Where could the pain come from if I don't have an ear infection?  I have had pain and ringing in my ear for a while, but it was not there every day, maybe I have had it 2 days out of the week and not every week.  I am going to see my PCP on the 3rd for a full physical. 

Among other things and symptoms, my thyroid has been all over the place.  It seems that whenever my lyme symptoms get worse, the thyroid spans out of control.  Then the PCP increases my dose.  If I have a few good days before the next blood work for the thyroid, the tests show I am taking too much levothyroxine.  THan they lower my dose, just to have to increase it next time around.  Last blood work I had was 3 times higher than it should.  THe previous tests my TSH was 4 times the normal upper limit.
  I don't feel any better, maybe it is the lyme that makes me feel bad or maybe a combo.  I will also ask my pcp to check my adrenal glands (which were never tested before), as I have learned from this forum that the adrenals play an important role.  I feel I am working too hard for these docs, they should figure out what is wrong with me.  Why am I paying them and the med insurance???  I don't know!

Thanks!

Mamyou
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   Posted 8/27/2010 9:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Any chance the ear pain is coming from a molar?? Don't expect the pcp to find much. There are tests you can do at home to test your adrenals. If you're interested, I'll pull out my book (if I can find it) and tell you what they are. Doesn't cost anything and you can go armed with info....again, don't expect him/her to be impressed or interested.

Simela
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   Posted 8/27/2010 9:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Mamyou:

Yes it will be great if you can tell me more about the tests at home.  I don't think my ear pain is coming from a molar.  There seems to be a bit of a bump behind my ear, actually lower then my ear, close to the end of the jaw and neck.  It is not visible, but I feel it with my finger.   The other ear doesn't have this, only the left side.  I would like to find out more before my second trip to my PCP. I am going in for a physical and she is my new doc and she seems pretty open minded. The LLMD that I have to visit on the 16 th of Sept doesn't accept my insurance, so I am seeing my PCP for all the tests I need. Also, I am seing an infectious disease doc that is ordering other tests for me: MRI of my brain and co-infection tests. I figure I should try to use my insurance as much as possible before I ran out of $$ with the LLMD and use the LLMD in addition to it, and not instead of...

I don't expect much from my PCP and my infectious disease doc (he actually denied the possibility of lyme and is more open to other diagnosis such as MS, so we argued a lot about that, I would call it "civilized arguing", although I felt like throwing the test results at him), other than ordering the tests... But the PCP was nice enough to give me the abx, based on my + lyme tests, which the previous PCP interpreted as false positive (all 4 of them)! How many false positives can one have? Good thing I still had some part of my brain working, I pulled all my records from my previous PCP and ran the other way! Imagine what my life would be if I would have started a more aggressive treatement an year earlier (last year), instead of 3 weeks of abx which seemed to do nothing!  RIght now I am in pain and upset with docs for being soooooooooooo clueless!

Post Edited (Simela) : 8/27/2010 12:58:48 PM (GMT-6)


vicparis
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   Posted 8/27/2010 1:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Imagine what my life would be if I would have started a more aggressive treatement an year earlier (last year), instead of 3 weeks of abx which seemed to do nothing!  RIght now I am in pain and upset with docs for being soooooooooooo clueless!
 
<!-- Edit -->Welcome to the club known as chronic Lyme. You could be herxing if you're feeling worse after taking antibiotics. I wish they had given me antibiotics thirty years ago - but they didn't.
 
 

Mamyou
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   Posted 8/27/2010 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Simela, This is taken from the book "Adrenal Fatigue -- The 21st Century Stress Syndrome" by James L. Wilson, ND, DC, Ph.D, so I didn't make it up!! The eye test: The only equipment you need is a chair, a small flashlight or penlight, a mirror, a watch with a second hand and a dark room. Darken the room and sit in a chair in front of a mirror. Then shine a flashlight across one eye (not directly into it) from the side of your head. Keep the light shining steadily across one eye and watch in the mirror with the other. You should see your pupil (the dark circle in the center of the eye) contract immediately as the light hits your eye. The pupil normally remains contracted in the increased light, but if you have some form of hypoadrenia, the pupil will not be able to hold its contraction and will dilate despite the light shining on it. This dilation will take place within two minutes and will last for about 30-45 seconds before it recovers and contracts again. Time how long the dilation lasts with the second hand on the watch and record it along with the date. After you do this once, let the eye rest. If you have any difficulty doing this on yourself, do it with a friend. Have a friend shine the light across your eye while both of you watch the pupil size.

Low Blood Pressure and Postural Low blood Pressure: BP is an important indicator of adrenal function. If your blood pressure drops when you stand up from a lying position, this almost always indicates low adrenals. This drop in BP upon rising is called postural hypotension and can easily be measured at home. You'll need a blood pressure gauge. Get the type that takes your blood pressure without requiring a separate stethoscope. Lie down quietly for about ten minutes and then take your BP while lying down. Next, stand up and measure your blood pressure right after you stand. If it drops when you stand up, you likely have some form of hypoadrenia or you may be dehydrated. If so, try it again on a day when you have had plenty of water. The more severe the drop, the more severe the hypoadrenia. (NOTE: I had this test at a doctor's office and he made me stand about 5 minutes, then took it again. Apparently my BP dropped even lower because they wanted me to sit down right away!)

Sergent's White Line (present in about 40% of folks w/adrenal fatigue). Simply take the dull end of a ballpoint pen and lightly stroke the skin of your abdomen, making a mark about 6" long. Within a few seconds a line will appear. In a normal reaction, the mark made by the pen is initially white but reddens within a few seconds. If there is hypoadrenia, the line will stay white for about two minutes and will also widen. The test, although not always positive inpeople with hypoadrenia is a confirmation of the presence of hypoadrenia.

It's best to do all three tests: the iris contraction, BP lying and standing, and the white line test. The first two are reliable indicators found in nearly every moderate to severe case of adrenal fatigue but not often in mild cases. White line is only present in moderate to severe.

Also, there is a questionnaire that's too long to try and list. Type in adrenal fatigue test online and see if you can bring one up.

That's it. I hope this helps...beauty of it is that it's free except for the BP cuff if you don't have one!!

Take care, Simela. Don't forget...when you're feeling your worst, you may be herxing...

Simela
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   Posted 8/27/2010 10:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Mamyou! I'll have to look for a flashlight and try to do it tomorow night.  I don't have a blood pressure device, so I will have to buy one.  My blood pressure has been quite low for a long time.  I'll let you know how it goes when I get everything and get it done!

Post Edited (Simela) : 8/28/2010 12:01:43 AM (GMT-6)

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