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willie0521
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Posted 1/6/2011 12:30 PM (GMT -8)
I saw my doctor for the first time yesterday since his phone call to me informing me that I have Lyme Disease and he didn't even take the time to explain anything to me.  After making me wait nearly an hour to see him.  He comes in and acts like my questions are a bother.  He refers me to a neurologist and tells me to get an ultrasound of my neck to check for plaque build up and looks at me like I'm crazy because I ask about my Lyme Disease.  He ordered more blood work and I don't even know why.  Is this normal?

I also had to take my child today to the pediatrician because of having similar symptoms.  The doctor was extremely rude and insensitive.  I was interrogated about having Lyme and the whole time she had a grin on her face as if my being concerned about my child's facial twitches and rashes is the most rediculous thing she's ever heard.

I would'nt know anything about this disease if it wasn't for this forum and all of the people who've chosen to take something awful and use it to help others.................Willie

 

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springsjean
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Posted 1/6/2011 12:56 PM (GMT -8)
I hear ya. I was shrugged off by so many doctors that I will never trust another one as long as I live. Thank god for the internet. I think that is why people are living longer. We are being our own doctor. I mentioned lyme to my sons' pediatrician and he said if they've been on antibiotics for anything for any period of time, there is no way they have lyme. REALLY? Goes to show you that even the smartest are dumb when it comes to lyme. I cannot stand arrogance and to me that's what it is.
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Cheezhead
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Posted 1/6/2011 1:01 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Willie,
Sorry to hear you are suffering with Lyme disease. Unfortunately you have now just receive a taste of what most of us have had to deal with. The majority of the health professionals either don't believe Lyme disease is a big deal, or that it even exists outside of a few states. Many times a positive Lyme test will be discounted as a false positive, and you will receive another diagnosis for MS, Fibro, or CFS and on and on.

Don't waist your time with these doctors. You will need to find a LLMD to treat you properly.

Best wishes
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willie0521
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Posted 1/6/2011 2:52 PM (GMT -8)
Hello Cheezhead, I guess that explains why my doctor wants me to see a neurologist. I couldn't understand this. If I tested positive for Lyme and I have all of the classic symptoms why continue to do more testing? I was hoping that he was going to go over treatment and advise me of things I can do to help myself get better.

When dealing with my own child, I was even more disappointed. How can a children's specialist take something like the possibility of Lyme so lightly? It's mind boggling!

Thankfully, I was given an LLMD close to where I live by two people from this forum. I'm waiting for the results of my child's test to schedule an appointment...........................Best wishes to you too.........................Willie
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Cheezhead
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Posted 1/6/2011 7:49 PM (GMT -8)

willie0521 said...
Hello Cheezhead, I guess that explains why my doctor wants me to see a neurologist. I couldn't understand this. If I tested positive for Lyme and I have all of the classic symptoms why continue to do more testing? I was hoping that he was going to go over treatment and advise me of things I can do to help myself get better.

When dealing with my own child, I was even more disappointed. How can a children's specialist take something like the possibility of Lyme so lightly? It's mind boggling!

Thankfully, I was given an LLMD close to where I live by two people from this forum. I'm waiting for the results of my child's test to schedule an appointment...........................Best wishes to you too.........................Willie

Do not be surprised if the neurologist comes up with a different dx. Just mentioning Lyme disease in most doctor's offices will draw a bad reaction from many in the health care field. I have several family members who work in health care. When I was finally dx nearly two years after being infected, I was having a conversation with these family members and told them I had Lyme. They were all very surprised, one who is a nurse, stated that in her twelve years as a nurse she had only known of one, maybe two patients she could remember being diagnosed with this disease. Now I live in Wisconsin, and we happen to be one of the states with near epidemic number of cases, and she had only known of a few people with this disease??? That's crazy!!
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achievinggrace
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Posted 1/7/2011 5:46 AM (GMT -8)
Willie, I think many doctors don't really know how to heal or cure, they just order tests.

You've already tested positive for Lyme, you really don't need anymore tests -- just treatment and lifestyle changes to support your healing. You would get better care from a lyme literate doctor. The expense and time is well worth it.

Going to a neurologist is unlikely to aid in your recovery. There will be just more tests that might or might not show anything but won't change what needs to be done for you.

Hope you get some good help and understanding soon.
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willie0521
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Posted 1/7/2011 8:36 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Cheezhead and Achievinggrace for your responses!

I am so disgusted in the medical profession right now. Here I thought that once I had a diagnosis I would be well on my way to full recovery. What a disappointment! Initially I thought I had MS so the Lyme dx was actually good news to me. Now, I feel even more frustrated than before. After joining this forum and obtaining some knowledge from all of you I realized how strange it was that my doctor called me ever so casually to tell my I have Lyme and to just go pick up my meds. When I had a reaction to the meds I was completely unprepared. I thought I was gonna die! It's such a shame that doctors don't seem to really care anymore.

I thought the neurological testing was necessary to see how much nerve damage I have. I certainly do not want to keep testing just to make my doctor and perhaps his friend the neurologist happy.

I hope to get to an LLMD soon.....Thanks again.........Willie
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Traveler
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Posted 1/7/2011 9:20 AM (GMT -8)
It's a real eye-opening event, isn't it Willie?

I agree with Acheiving here. The more docs who are unfamiliar with how LD goes about infecting our entire body, will end up with all kinds of diagnosis, detours in treatment (as they try to treat for things that you don't have), which for me brought on issues with depression eventually.

If you are told by a doc who is Lyme-literate to get this test or that test, at least you are spending your time, energy, and $$ on something that might actually result in your feeling better!!

Your first doc probably is in the 'camp' of those who believe that LD & co's are treated effectively with only 28 days of abx. Most of those in that camp also believe that any symptoms left over are considered "Post Lyme Syndrome". They will pretty much tell you after the 28 days of abx, what ever is left is just what you have to learn to live with - not understanding that the infection is still raging throughout the body.

Personally, I think those people in that 'camp' do more harm than good, nt only to the patients, but to the general public as well.

At least now you know!!!
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Mamyou
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Posted 1/7/2011 9:35 AM (GMT -8)
Most doctors operate on the information they are GIVEN by the pharmaceutical companies over dinners. That means they are eating and half listening, but generally not being given the whole story anyway. My guess is that we're given more information about negative side effects from our tv ads than the doctors are given directly by their drug reps. Then there's the little problem of doctors being afraid to step out of the box and actually think for themselves. They need the income and are afraid of prosecution in the event they do something that's not blessed by the medical boards. Most start practice with huge student loans and by the time they're solvent, they've lost their interest and curiosity about the true state of disease. They need to make a Mercedes payment.

Get used to being blown off and get used to having to do your own research. I've been at this for 40 years and everything I've learned has been because I found out myself...not what doctors told me while they were handing me Prozac or putting the chemo needle in my arm.

BUT, if you do find a caring and knowledgeable LLMD, then you are ahead of the game. God bless the ones willing to put themselves in the line of fire.

Bitter? Of course, but much much wiser. Most of the folks on this forum know 100% more than 90% of the doctors. I've learned a lot and continue to learn, on here and other research....It's called survival. If we don't do it for ourselves, then we have to think of our families.

Can you tell I'm not having a good day????
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peoplepleaser
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Posted 1/13/2011 5:19 AM (GMT -8)
Either find one that knows they have lyme and have researched it or get to a lyme literate dr. It is an epidemic that those above them would rather not deal with and the rest of them are told it's nothing. Don't give up if a dr. shrugs you off! You are not crazy but you are going to have to fight for answers.
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Cat111
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Posted 1/13/2011 8:18 AM (GMT -8)
Ditto to all posts here! When, when, WHEN will the CDC step up to the plate !?

Discouragingly, I have some across quite a few published articles on the internet where it is said that the CDC et al.....know that Lyme is incurable.

That MIGHT be true.....until someone cures it. I personally believe a cure is out there.....somewhere. But who's working on it? I want to visit them!
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Cat111
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Posted 1/13/2011 8:27 AM (GMT -8)
Can Lyme Disease BE cured? Is cured even the right word?

I like this article:

Can Lyme Disease Be Cured? | The Blog of Dr. David Jernigan :: The Voice of Optimum Health

I'm sure many of you have read this. 

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willie0521
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Posted 1/13/2011 9:02 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks for that article Cat111.  It was eye opening for me.  I now have a better understanding of why (as I've been told by some on this forum) it's so very important to keep a positive attitude.  I also better understand why I may have gotten the reaction I did from my doctor.

My goals have become to try to be as healthy as I possibly can in mind, body and spirit........................Willie

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Traveler
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Posted 1/14/2011 8:57 AM (GMT -8)
Willie, I personally believe that is the only way for me to heal from these horrible diseases and the damage they have done to my body.

I have already lost some "female parts", my appendix & my gall bladder due to LD & co- the rest is going to stay!!!!

about tick-borne infections being 'cured' - we can't even test for all of the different strains of Lyme & Bartonella & Babesia so that we know all of the things we are actually infected with.

There is also no way to know for sure that the different tbi's haven't just gone dormant in our bodies, waiting - once again- for just the right amount of stress to occur so that they can come out to play once again!

This is why we need a lot more grants & funds for research!! There is still too much unknown about these infections. shakehead
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willie0521
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Posted 1/14/2011 11:11 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Traveler! I have so much more understanding now about what Lyme disease actually is and what it can do. Because of the knowledge I have gained on this forum I have chosen to live as stress free as possible and I have gained the strength to keep toxins and toxic people as far away as possible.

I find myself constantly choosing to be happy inspite of the circumstances. I'm trying to become aware of all the good in my life. Some days are harder than others (as you know).

I appreciate your help in understanding how complex this disease actually is. There is no easy fix. It seems so rediculous to think that, not so long ago, I believed there was a cure and that I'd get well once I was diagnosed. This seems so foreign to me now. It's almost comicle. Thank you also for sharing some of what you've been through. It gives me the courage to face whatever comes my way. ................Willie
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Traveler
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Posted 1/14/2011 1:54 PM (GMT -8)
Thank you for your kind words, Willie! blush It really wasn't all that long ago (2007) that I was just beginning to learn just how serious and difficult tick-borne diseases really are myself.

I think that a lot of us just want to be around to help others find their way through the brain fog, past the controversies, and the disagreements to find treatment & hope. That sounds kind of flowery - but those that have been in that deep, dark hole know what I mean.....right?

I still struggle lots of days, and fight depression and migraines (like today eyes ), but like you are now doing - I still look for the good.When I find the good, I do have a tendency to have a strangle hold on it so as not to lose sight of it smhair - LOL, but we are all just doing our bestest!! smilewinkgrin

I am very glad that you were able to find us!! You have added and helped out here so well. Thank you!

May you continue find peace along your journey to health!!
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