anyone get feeling really toxic immediately after bowel movements

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mercuryb
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   Posted 2/18/2012 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
its like i get severe redistribution many times, well right now its almost all the time after bowel movement, liver i think as backface starts burning; eyes sore again neuro issues..not thinking as clearly
 
was feeling very good this am, then BM and poof I am back to aches-
liver referred pain i believe
 
i am going to try cholestyramine through the day and maybe when i wake up at 2am to see if this helps bind things up a litle better
 
Michael
Bartonella just started treating, severe burning in legs; hands getting numb; eyes filmy and strained, diminished sight, significant neuro-cognitive problems.
living streams (Derma, Probiotics & Flora PM which i believe eliminated liver flukes) Did 5-6 MagVIt C IV's and this seems to have healed gut but created major detox) Rifing-perl, lactoferrrin-big gut neuro herx , valtrex 4 ebv to raise WBC

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   Posted 2/18/2012 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
It would make sense that right after excreting some toxins, more of them would come out from hiding in all the nerves and tissues. Just a precaution with the cholestyramine - while it does help to get some of those toxins out of your system, it can also bring on a herx as you eliminate toxins - just something to consider if that seems to be the problem you're having already.
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mercuryb
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   Posted 2/18/2012 4:20 PM (GMT -7)   
so any other suggestions, activated charcoal; i seem to hae a reaction to bentonite clay.all though psyllium

i have not heard that one, that these bugs come out of hiding after a bowel movement..

i mean bm's provoke bile ducts and liver movement and peristaltis, so i guess
along the intestinal track, they could be stiied up
Bartonella just started treating, severe burning in legs; hands getting numb; eyes filmy and strained, diminished sight, significant neuro-cognitive problems.
living streams (Derma, Probiotics & Flora PM which i believe eliminated liver flukes) Did 5-6 MagVIt C IV's and this seems to have healed gut but created major detox) Rifing-perl, lactoferrrin-big gut neuro herx , valtrex 4 ebv to raise WBC

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   Posted 2/19/2012 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   
First of all, be sure you are not constipated! Nausea with bm's is a sign of IBS, but that's sort of common with Lyme and other tick-borne infections. The binding agents have a tendency to cause constipation though. You may need to add a fiber supplement to the rest of your daily routine.

Also be sure you are taking them at least 2 hours before and 2 hours after any food, supplements, or abx, as they will absorb those things and carry them out of your body before the body has a chance to absorb them!
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bucci
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   Posted 2/19/2012 12:19 PM (GMT -7)   
why are you taking colestyrmine?

mold?
20 yrs of doctors . DEC. 2009 tested positive for lyme, bartonella, ehrichiosis, HHPV6, chlamadyal pneumonia .
parasites :strongylides, diaoebia fragialis, hook worm.

Hep C ....fibro, rhumatoidal,depression,

mercuryb
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   Posted 2/19/2012 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
i do not take it regularly, yes, it had been precribed to me as part of the shoemaker protocol for mold and toxic binding a few yrs ago; its a hit or miss.there have been times when it worked really well binding up gut toxins..nuch like activated chracoal but it does not seem to do much right now either way.

yes as i believe traveler pointed out it can be constipating, which has not been my problem over the last few weeks, unless i do a lot of bug killing, rifing, then it seems to shut by bowels down somewhat
Bartonella just started treating, severe burning in legs; hands getting numb; eyes filmy and strained, diminished sight, significant neuro-cognitive problems.
living streams (Derma, Probiotics & Flora PM which i believe eliminated liver flukes) Did 5-6 MagVIt C IV's and this seems to have healed gut but created major detox) Rifing-perl, lactoferrrin-big gut neuro herx , valtrex 4 ebv to raise WBC

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   Posted 2/19/2012 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like you may be trying to do too much too fast, Michael??? I know that any time I do too much, my intestines like to shut down. They also shut down when I reach a certain level of pain, and it's not all that much pain either!! A moderate migraine does it every time! I also can have issues when the weather starts bouncing around a lot, temps swinging from low to high, rain and snow coming in.....

For some of us, our bowels seem to be quite touchy and so we have to be careful how much we do and how fast we do it. We absolutely must keep our intestines working though, so be careful to do what you need to and to monitor things so that you don't go without 'going' for more than 2 days!
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mercuryb
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   Posted 2/19/2012 3:03 PM (GMT -7)   
yes, i can tell when things are getting too much as my bm stop..i think the magnesium IV's set my bowels back in motion..

me... too much -too fast ??? thats moi;
the good thing is i think my body is finally detoxing on its own more now re the bowel movements-i have been having 2, sometimes 3 a day amd all though my life, its been like 2-3 a week
my legs have stopped burning with the tea tree oil, but I am sure thats killing things as well

the good thing is, i can usually right things by backing off all "killing" for a day and taking more pysllium-vit c

yes for me colder weather must tie into thyroid, and i am in california..I have been lucky as its been a mild-dry winter-last few days are colder and it has slowed me down

Thanks
Bartonella just started treating, severe burning in legs; hands getting numb; eyes filmy and strained, diminished sight, significant neuro-cognitive problems.
living streams (Derma, Probiotics & Flora PM which i believe eliminated liver flukes) Did 5-6 MagVIt C IV's and this seems to have healed gut but created major detox) Rifing-perl, lactoferrrin-big gut neuro herx , valtrex 4 ebv to raise WBC

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   Posted 2/19/2012 3:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like you are handling things well!! Keep up the good work!!
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I break up my post because my eyes have been effected by TBI's as well, making long paragraphs very hard to read.
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